[split] "Some people eat animals, some don't."

[Monica]

And I
AM
SORRY

My mother taught me yelling at someone gets through their stubbornness.  I am yelling now.  I will do so because I love you as a person, you're hurting yerself too by feeling so much...

Horror.

Those words apply to me too, all of my words.  I am a just as bad.  As I attempt to reconcile myself I will point out that I need to be the change.

You are welcome to attack in retaliation.  But please at least understand why I have spoken as I have.  You're an incredible contributor, but on this subject you attack.  I do not hold your level of care but i empathize.  I apologize and thank all I consume, even my sheesha, even my lettuce.

So.

Lettuce try to tell others it is wrong in our opinion to consume meat, but not to the point we condemn them.

Freelee the Banana girl offers a valuable lesson in converting people.

Happiness is the result.

You do not appear happy, I wouldn't convert if you attacked me, I'd feel sorrow at you.

I do now, so I said something in bluntness, in frustration of your pain, in sadness of the entire situation.

I apologize for my cruelty, but wish you'd find a more tame way to tell people your opinion.

I'll even offer to work in the same way and tone down my attitude for my sake and others.

Can we work together on this proposed attempt to not be so horrified in pain?

Thank you for your apology. Accepted. I know you're just expressing what you're feeling.

Freelee 'converts' people because she is slim and beautiful.

Plus, she utilizes videos. Whereas, this is a discussion forum, where we communicate primarily with words. In addition, this discussion forum is (presumably) based on the study of the Law of One, so it's reasonable to engage in deeper discussion here than elsewhere. I'm a fan of Freelee also (glad to hear you are too!) but I don't recall her ever discussing the differences between early 2D and late 2D, for example.

Assessing someone's level of happiness based on a single topic in an internet discussion forum is fruitless. The fact is that you know nothing about that person or how happy they are. All you can deduce about that person is how they feel about that particular topic, which is only a very tiny part of their entire life. And even then, misperceptions are rampant in internet discussions.

This is a very volatile topic. Those who knowingly contribute to the torture and slaughter of animals are typically upset when vegans point it out to them. They almost always react the same way: They attack the messenger. They think the messenger is attacking them when really it's their own conscience. It's much easier to just stay in denial and attack the messenger, than to listen to their own conscience.

I used the term rape in analogies but it's also literal. Cows are literally raped, repeatedly, to keep milk production going. Actually, bulls are too. They are routinely electrocuted anally to stimulate semen production.

rape
noun
1. unlawful sexual intercourse or any other sexual penetration of the vagina, anus, or mouth of another person, with or without force, by a sex organ, other body part, or foreign object, without the consent of the victim.
2. statutory rape.
3. an act of plunder, violent seizure, or abuse; despoliation; violation:
the rape of the countryside.
4. Archaic. the act of seizing and carrying off by force.