08-22-2015, 02:15 PM
@ Tired Philosopher: Your post blasting Monica was so out of line, in so many ways. It's crazy to me since I first joined here, how the "meat" threads can produce such distortion. This subject just can't seem to survive discussion—even moderation (witness the original closed "in regards to eating meat").
Didn't you complain in other threads about there not being enough posts and participation here? Why don't you start with yourself and the way you express yourself and interpret others' posts? If you ask, "Can we work together on this proposed attempt to not be so horrified in pain?" then why not follow this idea yourself? Is it okay for you to attack someone directly and personally because you are "tired," but not okay for Monica to make general statements about a subject, regardless of whether you agree or not?
@ Aion: So what if we don't agree on the facts? This is a discussion. No one is making blanket statements about the population in general, aside from the horrible situation itself. We are in a discussion talking about a subject and trying to understand it, shed light on it, and no one is trying to convert anybody. Rather, the idea is to SHED LIGHT. I feel that you are wanting agreement. We all to some degree probably feel that way for differing reasons.
When I have a clearer head and I am not so appalled at the skewed perceptions here in this thread (and the others that went before it on this matter), I will address some of the points in a more logical way. At the moment, I am trying to sort out how it's so one-sided. Those that eat meat are asking for compassion, and to not have their sensibilities hurt, in a discussion on the subject. How can we canvass this subject AND not discuss the areas of concern?
Didn't you complain in other threads about there not being enough posts and participation here? Why don't you start with yourself and the way you express yourself and interpret others' posts? If you ask, "Can we work together on this proposed attempt to not be so horrified in pain?" then why not follow this idea yourself? Is it okay for you to attack someone directly and personally because you are "tired," but not okay for Monica to make general statements about a subject, regardless of whether you agree or not?
@ Aion: So what if we don't agree on the facts? This is a discussion. No one is making blanket statements about the population in general, aside from the horrible situation itself. We are in a discussion talking about a subject and trying to understand it, shed light on it, and no one is trying to convert anybody. Rather, the idea is to SHED LIGHT. I feel that you are wanting agreement. We all to some degree probably feel that way for differing reasons.
When I have a clearer head and I am not so appalled at the skewed perceptions here in this thread (and the others that went before it on this matter), I will address some of the points in a more logical way. At the moment, I am trying to sort out how it's so one-sided. Those that eat meat are asking for compassion, and to not have their sensibilities hurt, in a discussion on the subject. How can we canvass this subject AND not discuss the areas of concern?