[split] "Some people eat animals, some don't."

[Monica]

There are a lot of thoughts for me to digest here so I won't comment to them yet, but I will just address that I specifically did not say it is the 'best' way, I said I do not know a best way, but it is the most direct way in my experience.

OK

I will ponder more on how to express myself accurately and continue from there.

I appreciate your considerations.

And I appreciate yours!

My main disagreement seems to be the 'guilty by association' aspect that you often express.

There's a reason I tend to emphasize that point, and that is that it has frequently been stated here that "Oh that's just the way this planet is...they must need that experience so who am I to interfere...they chose it...just accept it..." blah blah blah all of which conveys an attitude of apathy, at best, or callous disregard, at worst.

But it's much more than that. It's an attitude that completely ignores the distinction that the meat/dairy industry is built upon a system of supply and demand.

Saying "it's their karma...it happens" about someone murdering someone across town, that we had No direct involvement with, is one thing.

Saying that about about an industry that we are directly affecting, by contributing to the demand, is quite another.

Also, just a note to Diana's post, I don:t believe we can actually 'help' others with forgiveness. However we can generate a catalyst which offers the opportunity for forgiveness.

The entirety of my practice revolves around this process of making offerings in respect to free will. If free will cannot be respected I experience resistance and have to work on the distortion.