[split] "Some people eat animals, some don't."

[Minyatur]

You transform something which is very very indirect into something which is very direct. Black and white logic.

I attempt to distill the concepts into their essence, leaving out the magnificent hoops that are often constructed to attempt to justify that which cannot be justified.

What you consider that cannot be justified resolves only around your perspective of things, there isn't any consensus as you can see right on this very forum of spiritual seekers that study the LOO. Each his own truth and each truth cannot speak for others' as that would be attempting to learn/teach for others rather than teach/learn. So I do agree that in your case eating meat for example would create a very strong loss of polarization whereas it could also has no impact whatsoever on another and even some could get an inscrease in postive polarization in the right mind set. Not black and white, reality is a great subjectivity of awareness which endlessly distorts it further and further into something more complicated.

Truth is Monica, if you'd go into a restaurant and order a steak and eat it. Your action would have close to no chance whatsoever of even creating further suffering to any animal. So no it is not impossible to eat meat without harming because the harm is already done, in this scenario you'd take already existing stagnant energy upon yourself.

That particular animal is already dead, but one's actions do indeed affect the pool of supply and demand, and collectively, our choices all contribute to the end result.

That's not even getting into the holographic and energetic aspects of transcending linear time!

I have no strong time/space desire for meat and I wouldn't care if this world is vegetarian. But it is not and the slaugthering already is happening even if I weren't on this planet. As you and Diana described, the foodstuff energy is stagnant and heavy yet I do not mind taking what's already there as it is a 1D entity at this point and not a 2D one that I am dealing with.

About affecting the pool of supply and demand, I do think there are ways for one not to have an impact. In my current habits I seriously doubt I have one as I have very little impact on any compagny's sells of a day or week. In a week whether I eat a meal at one place or not, it won't have any impact in their supply/demand stock of that week or month. If I'd eat there everyday, perhaps but probably not even then.

(I still do agree at your group logic, but don't see myself as part of one)

If you inhabit a human body, and eat, then you are part of the group, like it or not.

The human group is composed of many subgroups, I am part of none that tries to change the ways of others as of now.

I think my habits are more centered in hurting myself than others.

It's both. (A clue!)

I can agree that the possibility of there being cases of causing harm exist, I disagree that you can take any of it and say it hurts something somewhere each times. I do believe one can eat meat while not causing any harm from his actions. As a whole surely not but as an individual it is possible under the right circumstances.

Regarding what I eat, I've held the same beliefs as Tanner that all food can be consecreted and seen as sacremental. I've had these beliefs along with inner alchemy since the very beginning of my spiritual path.

That is from the perspective of Self.

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My perspective is what it is in the circumstances it is put into. If I'd have to hunt for meat I wouldn't, I do dislike the thought of causing harm to a 2D entity. But in the present context I also am indifferent that other-selves have the need of that experience which creates the current system we are experiencing and have no desire to change what already is. I'd rather put my focus on something that does want to change.

I also did talk about my beliefs about the free will of the animal that goes through that path and also my view of how it acts as a building block of it's future self which cannot be any other way that it is meant to be. As each soul seeks what provides them that exact experience they need in what they incarnate within the illusion of separateness. In my view this earth is a play, and in this play each are put into different conditions to care about different things while not caring about other things as to provide and receive experiences we are meant to face. If this earth wouldn't eat meat, I do believe the souls that sought that experience would have found another time/space possibily to incarnate this exact resonance of an exeprience.

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Old point but if you look at the Earth which stands above us all in awareness, it lets it all happen so why would a wanderer who is lesser than the world he wanders into be more rightful in knowing what needs to changed and what needs not? My answer : you change in others what you need to change for yourself and as such no one can expect others to be having the exact same needs for themselves.