(08-24-2015, 06:38 PM)Elros Tar-Minyatur Wrote:(08-24-2015, 06:28 PM)upensmoke Wrote:(08-24-2015, 06:03 PM)Elros Tar-Minyatur Wrote:(08-24-2015, 05:46 PM)upensmoke Wrote: Elros Tar-Minyatur, do you eat meat and do you see your own personal meeting eating as a STS action or a STO action? depending on which one you pick could you explain why ? if you answered this question already or dont eat meat my apologies
I do eat meat and perceive it as currently non-polarized. I simply do not feel anything toward it and am you could say testing whether it remains that way or not.
If i were to not eat meat, I'd also perceive it as non-polarized. It would not bring any STO feelings within me either nor affect my polarity from my current perspective.
K i disagree with the idea that one must feel something for their actions to be polarized. Could you use that same logic in a different scenario and reach the same conclusion? Also this is just my opinion but the action or concept of feeling nothing when you are aware of suffering is STS. you Feel nothing because it is separate from you. Separation is a STS concept and mindstate. You would feel something if you truly saw it as one with yourself. this is just my opinion thru my understanding of course
I acknowledge sufferings as part of existence and not all sufferings do move my heart in the same manner as another catalyst might. I do not believe I would be any more right in trying to help than someone else who is partaking in creating suffering. What moves me and what I work upon relate to my own distortions.
If we want to speak of indirectly causing sufferings, then no one would be free of the guilt when existing within any society like ours.
Im not speaking of right or wrong concepts. i agree that it would be almost impossible to be free of guilt, But I disagree that your choice to continue to eat meat is not polarizing to you. You are aware of an option to serve an other self. you are aware of an option that would create less suffering and more benefit for the other-selfs. This option better serves other-selfs based on our understanding. You are aware of this option, but you choose the other. the one that continues the cycle pain because you dont feel anything. simply because you are not affected you choose that it is not your problem. That like saying I have the antidote to your poisonous snake bight, but since im not bitten, im not using it. It's not your obligation to use the antidote but you have to accept that such thinking is STS. STO includes STS so there is nothing wrong with saying that this specific plight is not my calling. I just believe that such a mind state is inherently STS. I also believe it is manipulation to say it would fall under any other identity. what are your thoughts on this ?