[split] "Some people eat animals, some don't."

[Monica]

My conclusions stem from my interpretation of the LOO, albeit a distorted one at that. I believe the Payer in this make belief scenario could potentially reach graduation towards the negative because they were born into an elite family circle, they intuitively understand free will and do not get their hands dirty (I am using the Payer in this scene interchangeably with an "elite") That to me represents being on the Gameboard simply because of his position and his harvestable potential. In contrast, I believe that the Assassin is not on the Gameboard because of his emotional attachment to what transpired. How can the Assassin control or manipulate another while in solitary confinement? Beyond that though the very idea of putting someone to death for causing death is essentially a hypocritical act. Belief systems however conceal this contradiction, at least in my eyes.
Focusing on the idea of attachment though I must stress that this is my subjective interpretation upon contemplating this bolded passage from the LOO...

35.8 Questioner: Well in that case I would like to know the motivation for this use of Abraham Lincoln’s body at that time?
Ra: I am Ra. This shall be the last full query of this session as we find the instrument quite low in vital energies.

The one known as Abraham had an extreme difficulty in many ways and, due to physical, mental, and spiritual pain, was weary of life but without the orientation to self-destruction. In your time, 1853, this entity was contacted in sleep by a fourth-density being. This being was concerned with the battle between the forces of light and the forces of darkness which have been waged in fourth density for many of your years.

This entity accepted the honor/duty of completing the one known as Abraham’s karmic patterns and the one known as Abraham discovered that this entity would attempt those things which the one known as Abraham desired to do but felt it could not. Thus the exchange was made.

The entity, Abraham, was taken to a plane of suspension until the cessation of its physical vehicle much as though we of Ra would arrange with this instrument to remain in the vehicle, come out of the trance state, and function as this instrument, leaving this instrument’s mind and spirit complex in its suspended state.

The planetary energies at this time were at what seemed to this entity to be at a critical point, for that which you know as freedom had gained in acceptance as a possibility among many peoples. This entity saw the work done by those beginning the democratic concept of freedom, as you call it, in danger of being abridged or abrogated by the rising belief and use of the principle of the enslavement of entities. This is a negative concept of a fairly serious nature in your density. This entity, therefore, went forward into what it saw as the battle for the light, for healing of a rupture in the concept of freedom.

This entity did not gain or lose karma by these activities due to its detachment from any outcome. Its attitude throughout was one of service to others, more especially to the downtrodden or enslaved. The polarity of the individual was somewhat, but not severely, lessened by the cumulative feelings and thought-forms which were created due to large numbers of entities leaving the physical plane due to trauma of battle.

So I assume the same rules apply no matter what side you are batting for. If we take any of this personally, we attach ourselves to this density and "drop off the Gameboard".

Ah, I see now why you view it that way. I view it differently.

In my interpretation, lack of attachment doesn't negate karma. What is karma? It is catalyst. What is catalyst? Events/energies set in place by our Higher Self to facilitate the ability to 'do work' which is to learn/evolve as a result of our response to that catalyst.

In the Lincoln scenario, the walk-in didn't walk in, to do work. The entity walked in, to accomplish a mission. That is entirely different from the original Lincoln entity, who was enmeshed in his life and thus probably had myriad attachments to people and events taking place.

Had the walk-in become attached to the original Lincoln's life, then he too would have become enmeshed in those people and events, ie. karmic connections, and thus the tendrils of karma would have attached themselves to him as well.

But he didn't. He just swooped in, did his job, and left, without taking on the heavy karma of the entity whose body he inhabited.

Not only that, but Ra didn't just say he was detached. Ra also indicated that the walk-in was dedicated to service to others.

This means that, an entity can simultaneously be detached to outcome and dedicated to service.

I don't think this means that, in every case of detachment, there isn't any karma. I think it just means that, in this particular case - Lincoln - the walk-in didn't take on Lincoln's karma.

Plus, since the entity was simultaneously detached to outcome and yet dedicated to service, in this case STO service, then it logically follows that an entity could possibly be simultaneously detached to outcome and yet dedicated to STS service.

Both have catalyst. Karma is simply more catalyst, based on our response to catalyst. Both men in this example are accumulating more karma. Everyone does, regardless of their choices, until they graduate from this density.

I disagree. Attachments and aversions create and perpetuate karma.

In the case of Lincoln's walk-in, the walk-in managed to avoid getting entangled in Lincoln's karma, by detaching from it and focusing on his mission.

For most of us, who aren't walk-ins, we all have catalyst. Karma is simply the mechanism that turns the wheel of catalyst generation. It has nothing to do with attachment/detachment and everything to do with whether we do work in response to catalyst, or whether that catalyst is wasted, in which case the wheel of karma generates more catalyst, until we make efficient use of it and can move on to the next lesson.

The Assassin is solely responsible for the murder just like humans are solely responsible for the past and present wars on this planet.

The Assassin isn't the only one responsible. Yes, the Assassin is solely responsible for his own part in it. But the Payor is equally responsible for his own part in it. Both are responsible.

A game requires 2 players or teams. If either neggie or pozzie succeeds in graduating then they have successfully played on the Gameboard. The gameboard (lowercase) is a metaphor for our third density illusion. The Gameboard is a metaphor for why we are in it (although I am sure you get that). Any portion of the Creator that graduates to 4D negative has successfully played the Game and no longer needs to return to the gameboard . All of what I say here is how I perceive things and my perception of how I think things are will always be subject to review or refinement.

Ah, I see where our disagreement is. Are you saying that one plays on the Gameboard only if they succeed in polarizing to the point of harvestability?

I see it differently. In my view, one plays on the Gameboard when they become aware that there is a game.

Playing on the Gameboard is entirely independent of being harvestable. Many entities are harvested who never realized that there is a game; likewise, many entities become aware that there is a game, and begin to play consciously on the Gameboard, yet don't reach harvestability.

Playing the game consciously - recognizing that there is a reason for life and consciously working with catalyst - is what propels the entity to the level of the Gameboard, instead of just continuing to float in the river of life, being tossed about, without any conscious understanding, which is the gameboard.

I need to take my leave but will answer your counter question tomorrow. Meanwhile Monica,

Huuuuuuuug!

Well goodness gracious, thank you Nicholas! Hugs to you too!