(09-05-2010, 02:16 PM)unity100 Wrote: infinity is not just 'all that there is'. the very concept that 'all that there is' tells about existence, also includes concepts like 'all', 'one', 'many', 'being' in implied fashion. these are just elements within infinity. and even being 'all that there is' is just another concept as a part of infinity. there is the concept that 'all there isnt' in infinity also, and infinite amount of variations and opposites of these.
I agree and will add a layer to this.
Infinity is unrestricted infinitely in all ways, by all concepts we could ever understand or communicate. Do we agree on this?
If we do, then it is self-defeating to agree on this. We have just agreed on a concept. A concept, no matter how infinite, is still a concept, which is not Infinity. All of our words and thoughts are approximations of understanding.
And we are not just approximating understanding of Infinity here...we are further distorting the effort by trying to communicate such approximations of understanding to other beings (you, I, others, etc.) on these forums.