10-28-2017, 03:19 AM
Your question is a very unusual one in it's progression of events. For what reason would one try to take a selfie after driving an entity to drive them mad?
Makes no sense and serves to disservice my point being that secrecy is an excuse to hide the fact a majority of those practicing this stuff are simply delusional and don't want the prying eye of other's judgment to interfere with their deluded perspective of reality.
I would similarly call you naive for believing in half of these people just as you believe yourself.
The only way I will ever believe that a person has managed a true real summoning of a demon is if they managed to take a picture of it after they so boldly claim in the grimoire that the demon can take form and appear to the naked eye.
Not talking about a selfie, although knowing the narcissistic behaviors of those deluding themselves with megalomania I could see someone misperceiving their request of 'get a picture of the demon and you'll never be questioned' with 'take a selfie of yourself with a demon'.
Of course it's not hard to maintain secrecy, especially about something that isn't true or real in a majority of the circumstances surrounding that which is being kept secret.
It's not hard. A legit picture would still be denied as proof, it could be photoshopped, it could be some trickery. Not providing that which you should be able to is the perfect example of a lie being perpetuated.
'Oh hey guy, I summoned this demon called Bune, he looked kind of like a dragon, I got him to take form then asked for his consent to photograph him, here take a look'
And if he presented a picture of a demon standing inside his room, I'd be satisfied.
Instead I get 'Oh hey guy, I summoned this demon, it's all secretive and stuff but I promise it's legit.'
I even challenged some people to prove their claim and at least attempt to do so. I was met with excuses and rationalizations such as 'Oh it wouldn't work, demons can't be photographed' or 'I don't think they'd let me' or 'That's not how it works'.
How it works is you cage an entity, make it do what you say, so there's no excuse why you couldn't ask it to take pleasant form and then photograph it then go on with the task at hand.
No reason at all why not.
So, I argue it, most people who speak of doing this stuff, they are full of it. They're full of themselves, and they're not honest with themselves or others. Their perspective reality is built off of lies that they delude themselves to believe in then suck others in with the cryptic mysterious nature that they claim to be exploring when all they're doing us chanting in a room, alone, and believing they're important enough to not be resisted against by an entity they know nothing about except that they can conjure it up into a cage and make it do what they want as if some kind of pet dog being told to fetch.
I would say just don't mess with those kinds of things, no one has any reason to and considering how little has been gained over centuries of these practices you'd think someone by now would hold up a red flag and say 'hey, I think this is bullshit, you brag about it despite keeping it a secret and you've nothing to show for it, not even another's misfortune, and I see you have the means to provide proof, evidence of your claims, but consistently choose not to. Yeah, you're not legit. I believe in the demons you speak of summoning, but I don't believe in you summoning them. Prove me wrong otherwise stfu because you're basically crying wolf now. If you really wanted attention or want to come off interesting, learn about the demons and mythos involving them instead of playing make believe with imaginary friends in an incomplete ritual you read in some tome.'
Or simply out, occams razor. The most likely conclusion is these are lonely people trying to give some meaning to their otherwise insignificant life.
If you are so powerful to work with demons and angels, you probably don't need to gather evidence, it would be surrounding you in circumstantial coincidence, you'd be able to point out such.
But no one does. Probably because no one legitimately does this stuff to such a degree, and those that do, aren't so lowly with ego that they need to be praised or liked or even known for doing such stuff. They don't need to make excuses.
Like I believe more in someone praying to an angel and getting a response than someone conjuring a demon and making pacts or deals or commands of it.
There's an obscured truth here, and it's mostly obscured by those who practice these things, probably because they know it's often times not real but very...Metaphysical...
Makes no sense and serves to disservice my point being that secrecy is an excuse to hide the fact a majority of those practicing this stuff are simply delusional and don't want the prying eye of other's judgment to interfere with their deluded perspective of reality.
I would similarly call you naive for believing in half of these people just as you believe yourself.
The only way I will ever believe that a person has managed a true real summoning of a demon is if they managed to take a picture of it after they so boldly claim in the grimoire that the demon can take form and appear to the naked eye.
Not talking about a selfie, although knowing the narcissistic behaviors of those deluding themselves with megalomania I could see someone misperceiving their request of 'get a picture of the demon and you'll never be questioned' with 'take a selfie of yourself with a demon'.
Of course it's not hard to maintain secrecy, especially about something that isn't true or real in a majority of the circumstances surrounding that which is being kept secret.
It's not hard. A legit picture would still be denied as proof, it could be photoshopped, it could be some trickery. Not providing that which you should be able to is the perfect example of a lie being perpetuated.
'Oh hey guy, I summoned this demon called Bune, he looked kind of like a dragon, I got him to take form then asked for his consent to photograph him, here take a look'
And if he presented a picture of a demon standing inside his room, I'd be satisfied.
Instead I get 'Oh hey guy, I summoned this demon, it's all secretive and stuff but I promise it's legit.'
I even challenged some people to prove their claim and at least attempt to do so. I was met with excuses and rationalizations such as 'Oh it wouldn't work, demons can't be photographed' or 'I don't think they'd let me' or 'That's not how it works'.
How it works is you cage an entity, make it do what you say, so there's no excuse why you couldn't ask it to take pleasant form and then photograph it then go on with the task at hand.
No reason at all why not.
So, I argue it, most people who speak of doing this stuff, they are full of it. They're full of themselves, and they're not honest with themselves or others. Their perspective reality is built off of lies that they delude themselves to believe in then suck others in with the cryptic mysterious nature that they claim to be exploring when all they're doing us chanting in a room, alone, and believing they're important enough to not be resisted against by an entity they know nothing about except that they can conjure it up into a cage and make it do what they want as if some kind of pet dog being told to fetch.
I would say just don't mess with those kinds of things, no one has any reason to and considering how little has been gained over centuries of these practices you'd think someone by now would hold up a red flag and say 'hey, I think this is bullshit, you brag about it despite keeping it a secret and you've nothing to show for it, not even another's misfortune, and I see you have the means to provide proof, evidence of your claims, but consistently choose not to. Yeah, you're not legit. I believe in the demons you speak of summoning, but I don't believe in you summoning them. Prove me wrong otherwise stfu because you're basically crying wolf now. If you really wanted attention or want to come off interesting, learn about the demons and mythos involving them instead of playing make believe with imaginary friends in an incomplete ritual you read in some tome.'
Or simply out, occams razor. The most likely conclusion is these are lonely people trying to give some meaning to their otherwise insignificant life.
If you are so powerful to work with demons and angels, you probably don't need to gather evidence, it would be surrounding you in circumstantial coincidence, you'd be able to point out such.
But no one does. Probably because no one legitimately does this stuff to such a degree, and those that do, aren't so lowly with ego that they need to be praised or liked or even known for doing such stuff. They don't need to make excuses.
Like I believe more in someone praying to an angel and getting a response than someone conjuring a demon and making pacts or deals or commands of it.
There's an obscured truth here, and it's mostly obscured by those who practice these things, probably because they know it's often times not real but very...Metaphysical...