3 Very Large Objects In Space Flying To Earth (and 'the truth')

[Monica]

Clearly there is a different set of expectations going on here about what is required for good communication. And that's all that is... Not everyone has the same expectations.

That is so true!

But us listeners also have a responsibility in the communication process.

YES!!!

Especially when we all have different styles of expressing ourselves, come from different cultures, etc. And to top that off, we don't have the benefit of facial expressions, tone of voice, etc.

I absolutely agree, that the listeners have responsibility as to how they perceive the words of another, rather than having expectations...best to just utilize that which is useful, and discard that which isn't.

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This is approaching absurdity.

I agree, though for different reasons. It's also seriously derailing this thread. Maybe we need a thread dedicated to exploring communication skills and techniques used in internet discussion forums.

It's easy to mark something as opinion - you say (in a variety of ways) "this is my opinion". I don't think there necessarily must be problem discerning what would be opinion from what would be (submitted as) fact. Why does something submitted as fact, have to be re-interpreted as opinion?

Because we are discussing primarily ideas and concepts, not tangibles. Therefore everything any of us says, is automatically opinion. That is the default and what distinguishes us from adherents to a religion.

Is there some shortcoming of language that prohibits a qualification of this type? Of course not.

I disagree. Communication is a 5th ray issue and here in 3D is woefully inadequate. I've seen it time and time again, wherein 2 well-intentioned people have a communication breakdown; each one thinking they are communicating adequately, yet their thoughts cross like ships in the night.

This happens under the best of conditions, when they have the benefit of facial expressions, physical contact, tone of voice, full context, etc. It happens even more when the only means of communication is words conveyed electronically.

Words alone are woefully inadequate. People often try to ascribe tone when all they have is words, and often totally misunderstand the other person, by reading into it that which isn't there. Or, conversely, missing that which is there.

I've also "resonated" with what others have held "true" without any supporting knowledge. But then, if I subsequently wanted to learn something and asked why it was considered "true", I would not condemn their point of view as "wrong"!

Nothing wrong with asking. I'm a little confused, though, why this turned into such a big deal. A casual comment was made, questions were asked, an explanation was offered. Am I missing something?

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I've never read anything else here that implies that forum goers on Bring4th must be absolutely concise in their communications, never confusing fact for opinion. We're imperfect human beings, not computers. No-one should be held to a standard of infallible communication, cuz no-one can uphold it.

Thank you Aaron!

We do, however, have guidelines regarding respect and harmony.

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Clearly there is a different set of expectations going on here about what is required for good communication. And that's all that is... Not everyone has the same expectations.

That is so true!

But us listeners also have a responsibility in the communication process.

YES!!!

Especially when we all have different styles of expressing ourselves, come from different cultures, etc. And to top that off, we don't have the benefit of facial expressions, tone of voice, etc.

I absolutely agree, that the listeners have responsibility as to how they perceive the words of another, rather than having expectations...best to just utilize that which is useful, and discard that which isn't.

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This is approaching absurdity.

I agree, though for different reasons. It's also seriously derailing this thread. Maybe we need a thread dedicated to exploring communication skills and techniques used in internet discussion forums.

It's easy to mark something as opinion - you say (in a variety of ways) "this is my opinion". I don't think there necessarily must be problem discerning what would be opinion from what would be (submitted as) fact. Why does something submitted as fact, have to be re-interpreted as opinion?

Because we are discussing primarily ideas and concepts, not tangibles. Therefore everything any of us says, is automatically opinion. That is the default and what distinguishes us from adherents to a religion.

Is there some shortcoming of language that prohibits a qualification of this type? Of course not.

I disagree. Communication is a 5th ray issue and here in 3D is woefully inadequate. I've seen it time and time again, wherein 2 well-intentioned people have a communication breakdown; each one thinking they are communicating adequately, yet their thoughts cross like ships in the night.

This happens under the best of conditions, when they have the benefit of facial expressions, physical contact, tone of voice, full context, etc. It happens even more when the only means of communication is words conveyed electronically.

Words alone are woefully inadequate. People often try to ascribe tone when all they have is words, and often totally misunderstand the other person, by reading into it that which isn't there. Or, conversely, missing that which is there.

I've also "resonated" with what others have held "true" without any supporting knowledge. But then, if I subsequently wanted to learn something and asked why it was considered "true", I would not condemn their point of view as "wrong"!

Nothing wrong with asking. I'm a little confused, though, why this turned into such a big deal. A casual comment was made, questions were asked, an explanation was offered. Am I missing something?

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I've never read anything else here that implies that forum goers on Bring4th must be absolutely concise in their communications, never confusing fact for opinion. We're imperfect human beings, not computers. No-one should be held to a standard of infallible communication, cuz no-one can uphold it.

Thank you Aaron!

We do, however, have guidelines regarding respect and harmony.

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