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    Thread: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts?


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    05-18-2019, 11:09 AM
    (05-18-2019, 10:10 AM)Glow Wrote: Might you just be irritated with Jade because she is mirroring back your own energy of assured correctness.
    No offence intended but we all need a mirror,

    Ah, thanks for saying this Glow, I had a part about this in the post I just made, but I deleted it. But in my estimation, I feel like often the problem is not that I speak as an authority, it's that I speak with authority (because of my familiarity with the material) and it's not so common, especially in the Law of One community, for someone to speak with such a "male" tone while coming from such an obviously female body. I know it's offputting, even for me sometimes! But the fact is, I've had this "voice" since I started posting here, well before I was a moderator. At heart I'm a geek so when I'm into something, I study it in depth, and when I geek about it, well, sometimes shaping that energy as it emerges is difficult. And with this, it feels even more important. My point is to never call someone out personally, even if the intensity of my emotional energy feels that way. I am often more aware of the unnamed lurkers than those who are regular posters. I don't want the random person who landed here from a google search to absorb more confusion from a very confused OP. Or at least, I want them to see a well articulated version of the opposite opinion, for balance. Otherwise people WILL think that L/L supports negative interpretations of the philosophy, if they happen to land on a thread with negative philosophy that is never challenged. And for those who are lonely enough to seek community with others through this medium, many of them will be further isolated if all they see is a rehash of alt-right philosophy through a metaphysical lens. There are plenty of communities these days to discuss this viewpoint, though I know some of them have been deplatformed for being a hub for hate speech (such as /r/thegreatawakening), so there seems to be a need to fight against that tide. We are here to discuss the Law of One, with service to others as a focus. In fact, at it's heart, this thread (and many others) are against the rules and guidelines that go against promoting negative philosophies. The idea that martyrs are bad and selfish people who do more harm to others than good is a negative philosophy.

    Quote:5) Negative Philosophies
    Ours is a forum dedicated to the exploration, promotion, and living of the service-to-others polarity as defined in the Law of One material. This does not mean that discussions about the service-to-self polarity are prohibited, only that promotion of philosophies and information which:

    *exhibit elements of deception and manipulative thinking
    *generate fear
    *reject or discourage universal love
    *encourage or promote control of self or others

    are considered to be not in alignment with the principles of spiritual evolution espoused by Confederation sources and are thus subject to moderation and/or removal.



    https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=63

    And in my estimation, this thread hits the first three quite squarely. However, instead of starting a moderator email about potentially deleting something I disagree with, I used my own time and energy to create a counter argument, and one that I firmly believe in, since I very firmly, personally and spiritually, disagree with the position of the OP. I'm not going to write a PM to redchartreuse because I'm not speaking to them for breaking the rules as a moderator, I'm speaking to them, as an ingenuous geek, dismayed that someone would twist the philosophy this way - a philosophy meant to generate light, not snuff it out.
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    Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by redchartreuse - 05-17-2019, 02:03 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by kristina - 05-17-2019, 02:23 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by redchartreuse - 05-17-2019, 02:29 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by krb - 05-17-2019, 02:41 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by redchartreuse - 05-17-2019, 04:19 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by AnthroHeart - 05-17-2019, 03:09 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by Cyan - 05-17-2019, 03:18 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by flofrog - 05-17-2019, 04:59 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by redchartreuse - 05-17-2019, 05:39 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by speedforce131 - 05-17-2019, 06:12 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by kristina - 05-17-2019, 07:38 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by Diana - 05-21-2019, 12:50 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by Minyatur - 05-17-2019, 05:54 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by redchartreuse - 05-17-2019, 06:25 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by I am Shayne - 05-17-2019, 05:55 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by Merrick - 05-17-2019, 06:12 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by Merrick - 05-17-2019, 06:21 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by krb - 05-17-2019, 06:54 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by Jade - 05-17-2019, 06:59 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by flofrog - 05-17-2019, 09:08 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by krb - 05-17-2019, 09:54 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by kristina - 05-18-2019, 07:18 AM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by Foha - 05-17-2019, 10:08 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by kristina - 05-18-2019, 07:24 AM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by Jade - 05-18-2019, 07:44 AM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by redchartreuse - 05-18-2019, 09:14 AM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by Glow - 05-18-2019, 09:51 AM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by ada - 05-18-2019, 10:00 AM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by Glow - 05-18-2019, 10:10 AM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by Jade - 05-18-2019, 11:09 AM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by Diana - 05-21-2019, 01:12 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by Jade - 05-18-2019, 10:34 AM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by Glow - 05-18-2019, 10:40 AM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by ada - 05-18-2019, 11:12 AM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by Glow - 05-18-2019, 11:18 AM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by Jade - 05-18-2019, 11:32 AM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by Minyatur - 05-18-2019, 02:12 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by flofrog - 05-18-2019, 05:16 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by RitaJC - 05-19-2019, 06:30 AM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by unity100 - 05-21-2019, 12:28 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by Jade - 05-21-2019, 01:29 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by Minyatur - 05-21-2019, 07:49 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by flofrog - 05-21-2019, 08:16 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by Minyatur - 05-21-2019, 08:50 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by Jade - 05-21-2019, 09:09 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by flofrog - 05-21-2019, 09:13 PM
    RE: Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts? - by Minyatur - 05-22-2019, 12:54 PM

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