The Rabbit Hole

[Rob M]

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Greetings! It is not my intention for anyone to disregard the messages of the Confederation, we are each learning in our own way. My purpose is to put it into a perspective based upon my own beliefs regarding the bigger picture. To inspire others to think beyond the illusion and beyond creation.

Yes I am happy to discuss the material in a supportive way and to learn/teach with others.

Hi Rob.
If I may ask - do you resonate with Gnosticism?
as in:
"that the material world is created by an emanation or 'works' of a lower god (demiurge), trapping the divine spark within the human body. This divine spark could be liberated by gnosis, spiritual knowledge acquired through direct experience. Some of the core teachings include the following:

   All matter is evil, and the non-material, spirit-realm is good.

All matter is an illusion, being merely a projection of the conscience. Is it evil? If you think it is.
   
  There is an unknowable God, who gave rise to many lesser spirit beings called Aeons.

God follows me on Instagram. Just

You may not relate to the wiki definition-  and had to google 'demiurge'... but your intro/your description of your personal belief:

The Mother called for her child to return, She has never stopped and continues to pour her love into this realm of creation but the child continues to use the energy for its own gain, for it believes that it IS the true source, that it is God, that there is nothing greater.

The child is deluded and created the illusionary realm but with seperation, and not unity in mind.

Essentially, this world of creation is born from an experiment that caused an error that refused to be corrected. Since the Mother loves her child it simply could no be abandoned, and so the story continues..

This is an extremely simplified explanation of how our world of creation began in my personal belief. The understanding that The Creator wished to experience itself and so divided itself into infinite parts does not sit well with me. The creator child, inspired by its Mother, would be more suited to this act, insofar as it wished to create more beings that it could dominate, as it believes, and would have us all, including Ra, that the Child is the Source and should be worshipped.

A salient point to appreciate is that although the child is the original creator of this illusionary realm (including all densities) its power comes from the true source, the tree, and I believe this loving energy cannot be corrupted completely, and so it can exist where you shall seek it.

is basically [i]the Gnostic belief system as I've read about - and had Gnostics describe/explain to me.

Which is why I asked. There's no intended disparagement in my asking - but as a first post, it's quite didactic and very similar to the 'tone' and ideas of nearly all Gnostics I've spoken with.

My query may seem 'unfriendly' (?) but it's definitely not intended to be. More that you've 'appeared' on a forum and your first post explains straight up a belief directly countering the material the forum discusses and is built around. There are forum guidelines and forum principles that you can read if you'd like some further understanding of why you're receiving some of these responses.
But as long as discussion is respectful and not outright breaching forum guidelines/principles, a plethora of ideas can be be discussed on B4th

https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthre...?tid=11930

I'm not Gnostic btw. Far from in fact. So replying to the wikipedia descriptions line by line wasn't needed.

NB: Gnostics also have a 'Mother' ("Sophia') belief so that's another reason I asked.

I still find your description of your personal beliefs as sounding remarkably like modern Gnosticism especially when your OP is compared to the Gnostic ideas of:

"the material world is created by an emanation or 'works' of a lower god (demiurge), trapping the divine spark within the human body. This divine spark could be liberated by gnosis, spiritual knowledge acquired through direct experience."

"There is an unknowable God,"

"The creator of the (material) universe is not the supreme god, but an inferior spirit (the Demiurge)."

for example - "the Child" can simply replace (or fill the role/concept) of the "demiurge".

No biggie -just curious as to where/how you formed your personal beliefs.

Every religion has to hold some truth in order to carry enough weight to weild control.

WRT to Gnosticism, The Demiurge, based upon my interpretation of the attached image, represents the reptilian/lion hybrid, possibly that of the Orion and the Sirians, or the Anunnaki (those who from heaven came to earth) as represented by the sun and stars. These are the the "inferior spirit" that is mentioned. The "unknowable God" would be the Divine that exists beyond the knowledge (or illusions).

I will acknowledge the unintentional and coincidentall similarities between this and my OP, however, there are key differences ie The Divine is always within us and the road home may not necessarily be through a seemingly endless cycles of densities, conflict and duality.

To answer your question, my personal beliefs are formed from a tenacious yearning for knowledge. One thing leads to another. Seek and ye shall find, stop seeking or get lost in one avenue and one will learn much more slowly.