06-19-2019, 11:18 PM
(06-19-2019, 03:27 PM)Ray711 Wrote:You say tame, I say being conscious. Being a conscious entity there a many things to be considered.(06-19-2019, 08:00 AM)kristina Wrote: I think what is being said here is that The Confederation is rejecting enslavement by sending love as a defensive mechanism in order to reject the notion of enslavement by the Orion Cusaders. As if to say, to protect oneself from becoming subjected to being taken over by another as you may do a protective spell by sending it out so that no harm can be done to you. You would do the defensive spell to preserve your free will. By doing this, some polarity may be lost. It is as it is.
Negativity, if you will, has it's own free will and may use it as it wishes.
Maybe. The notion of the mere act of protecting oneself being somewhat depolarizing is certainly an interesting one. However, it is my belief based on other bits and pieces (from the Q'uo messages as well) that there is indeed a sort of literal battle between 4d entities. I'm thinking right now of Q'uo mentioning that the early 4d positive entity still carries a lot of the bias of 3d, referring to the bellicose nature and the desire to protect the loved ones at any cost.
(06-19-2019, 10:31 AM)Infinite Wrote: It's not viable use the way of acting of higher densities entities as example for 3D entities. The context you showed is about battles between entities of an equal power. It has nothing to do with immigration questions.
Not necessarily immigration. But, higher density and all, the description by Ra of this battle is very relatable to 3d issues. Is there sometimes a need or a justification (even for STO entities) to fight? To control? To resist? To put limitations into the relationships with other-selves? Is complete and absolute purity desirable? What dangers does it entail?
(06-19-2019, 02:44 PM)kristina Wrote: 4th density positive lessons do not include taming. They include love, understanding, forgiveness and acceptance
Yes. In learning those things, the need to tame the desire to fight other selves (even to protect those closest to the self) is then realized. 4d positive doesn't begin with absolute purity in its STO polarity, and there is still a distinction between the loved ones and "the others". It is when the lessons of universal and unconditional love advance when the 4d entity realizes that the STS entity is as much valuable an entity as the family, the friends, the close ones; and that to hurt even the STS entity is to hurt the all.
I don't understand what you mean when you say 4th density positive doesn't begin with absolute purity.
I also don't understand when you say the 4th density entity realizes that the STS entity is as much value.....are you saying we won't realize that until 4th density? If so, many of us are already on board with that while in 3rd density.
I may not desire to hurt you but of you attack me with a knife I may hit you with a lamp to protect myself so that I can continue my journey but that doesn't mean I don't love you and may have to spend the rest of this incarnation balancing my actions. That would not be an STS scenario.
I am unclear of what you consider STS and STO, polarization, the densities, and consciousness. It seems to me that you are possibly presenting arguments and debates rather than seeking answers. Or perhaps I am reading this incorrectly and that would be great if I were.