11-02-2019, 04:35 PM
(11-02-2019, 04:34 AM)RitaJC Wrote:(11-01-2019, 07:13 PM)Asolsutsesvyl Wrote: I'll add in something so far missing from this discussion - the Fourth Way perspective. [...]
I can agree 100% except with this part: "The vast majority of people have either only a physical body, or the combination of a physical body and an astral body."
I have become to know that all expressions of the Creator are always having all of the mentioned bodies (as a reality with the potential of being experienced). A particular expression might juts not be aware of some of them and not able to have a conscious experience of them for some time.
I think people will continue to disagree about ideas concerning possible spiritual differences between people. (The basic difference mentioned is the same as can be read about on Montalk's website in terms of "organic portals".)
After thinking about what I posted, I realized it is a bit too simplified in two ways, at least:
- It only covers the cosmology part of Fourth Way ideas about free will, not the psychology part dealing with spiritual development.
- It is not clear if the cosmology mapping of concepts I made - logically a neat fit with the Law of One - is complete, because there are other possible interpretations of the bodies and development within Fourth Way theory.
A complete "human" development is described in terms of all the bodies mentioned, and as being possible and the end goal. Maybe there is a repeating pattern, in which the bodies as such can refer either to full-fledged being at the levels in question, or to something more basic which is still rooted in those levels. That's the only way in which I think Fourth Way development could actually be possible for people who are not wanderers greatly pre-equipped.
This also ties into the more flexible and ambiguous ideas of spiritual bodies provided by Ra, which makes clear that there's much more going on in existence in general than meets the eye. Various neat and simple structures relating types of existence to densities may be possible, but it's easy to miss something when coming up with a structure which seems to capture a lot.
A main difference between Fourth Way ideas and common ideas about spirituality remains the emphasis on a long, difficult, and uncertain road of spiritual development. Gurdjieff's version is the most extreme compared to ideas placing everyone on the same level. Mouravieff's version is more generous, and seems to be philosophically compatible with the Law of One.