11-17-2019, 12:56 AM
I added 3 paragraphs to the opening post (marked Added), to clarify matters for future readers, without changing the original direction.
I still think there are very interesting questions to explore connected to the Cassiopaean channeling - including the core message of the earliest years, and the processes which unfolded later (where interesting symbolic clues can often be found to be laid out many years in advance).
It's very understandable that many prefer to focus on the clearer, and less polluted, message of the Law of One material. It remains to be seen how much can be added to the understanding of it by sifting through the Cassiopaean message. But I think that both polarities have been running very strong around the spiritual eye of a hurricane which is the Cassiopaean Experiment. Lessons concerning higher-density dynamics can probably be extracted, over time, from examining it all.
Thinking needs to be oriented in some way in order to lead somewhere, spiritually speaking. It is heart and soul which determine the basic inclinations, and beliefs which determine where and how these are turned. (And beliefs are always present and at the core of thinking, whether or not it is admitted.)
Thinking which springs from ingrained beliefs, or a tunnel vision, can very seldom lead beyond what it revolves around. I needed to go through 4 years of an inner rollercoaster in order to break apart the thick "crust" of emotional entanglements and inner habits which had built, in order to change my approach.
Though there's certainly much thinking in the Cassiopaea community, the quality has declined, and deeper spiritual learning seems to run in reverse over the years. Inner experience of more diverse types can change the basis of thinking, so that it can lead to new destinations, but that's only possible when breaking ties which bind it to psychic sinkholes (whether they are of inner or outer origin).
The irony is, there's a significant portion of members in the Cassiopaea community who are genuinely great idealists of that type, brutally scrutinizing themselves. But the self-scrutiny comes at the cost of remaining emotionally small, and not being able to grow through experience to the full extent naturally possible.
When the spiritual authority - in part channeled, in part a few persons (with Laura at the center), and in part the group mind (which seems to be coordinated by a larger, invisible will) - is corrupt, and projects its main failings outwardly, a self-sacrificing and self-scrutinizing attitude keeps people under the "spell". When people turn away on an idealistic basis, they are said to have "emotionally split", to have reacted immaturely with black and white thinking.
Ultimately, it is the strongest idealists - large in soul even if small in their sense of self - who have the greatest chance of waking up. The choice between the deepest held ideals, vs. compromising with them in obedience to the spiritual authority, turns into a choice between psychic freedom vs. psychic enslavement.
I still think there are very interesting questions to explore connected to the Cassiopaean channeling - including the core message of the earliest years, and the processes which unfolded later (where interesting symbolic clues can often be found to be laid out many years in advance).
It's very understandable that many prefer to focus on the clearer, and less polluted, message of the Law of One material. It remains to be seen how much can be added to the understanding of it by sifting through the Cassiopaean message. But I think that both polarities have been running very strong around the spiritual eye of a hurricane which is the Cassiopaean Experiment. Lessons concerning higher-density dynamics can probably be extracted, over time, from examining it all.
(11-14-2019, 10:16 PM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote:(07-21-2019, 11:31 PM)Asolsutsesvyl Wrote: The Cassiopaean community still has one thing going for it, which is its great ideological foundational pillar: virtue and goodness through truth. Wherever they have ended up, thinking is what will bring them wherever they will go. Will their thinking expand or will it contract? Will it separate them from the bigger picture, or will it encompass it? Ultimately, it's up to each and every one involved.
(Stuffing the mind with more and more academic and other knowledge is not what it takes to truly expand the bounds of thinking. The nature of mind is more complicated than that. As in theory they know, in terms of the Fourth Way teaching.)
I don't think much positive development will be found through thought. I think (LOL) that people think too much, and that gets in the way of our ability to actually perceive the real truth. I myself still struggle with this, but at least I recognize this fact. I am learning to be patient with myself.
Thinking needs to be oriented in some way in order to lead somewhere, spiritually speaking. It is heart and soul which determine the basic inclinations, and beliefs which determine where and how these are turned. (And beliefs are always present and at the core of thinking, whether or not it is admitted.)
Thinking which springs from ingrained beliefs, or a tunnel vision, can very seldom lead beyond what it revolves around. I needed to go through 4 years of an inner rollercoaster in order to break apart the thick "crust" of emotional entanglements and inner habits which had built, in order to change my approach.
Though there's certainly much thinking in the Cassiopaea community, the quality has declined, and deeper spiritual learning seems to run in reverse over the years. Inner experience of more diverse types can change the basis of thinking, so that it can lead to new destinations, but that's only possible when breaking ties which bind it to psychic sinkholes (whether they are of inner or outer origin).
(11-14-2019, 10:18 PM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote:(07-22-2019, 02:42 AM)zvonimir Wrote: http://montalk.net/montalkvsqfs.htm
The important points to remember are:
1) There is a difference between the message (Cassiopaean Transcripts) and the messenger (Laura Knight and the Quantum Future Group).
2) The message (1994-2002) is still viable and I recommend it, but the messenger and channel (2003+) are now corrupt beyond hope.
There has been a small number of individuals who, despite reading this page and knowing better, decided to go ahead and immerse themselves fully in the Cassiopaea forum anyway. Given enough time, their weakness of mind, lack of personal conviction, and ego-driven need to belong at all costs made them succumb to the peer pressure found there. Instead of thinking for themselves.....
the rest is on the link perhaps it can be of help .........
So much for " virtue and goodness through truth" if you're not willing to be honest with yourself...
The irony is, there's a significant portion of members in the Cassiopaea community who are genuinely great idealists of that type, brutally scrutinizing themselves. But the self-scrutiny comes at the cost of remaining emotionally small, and not being able to grow through experience to the full extent naturally possible.
When the spiritual authority - in part channeled, in part a few persons (with Laura at the center), and in part the group mind (which seems to be coordinated by a larger, invisible will) - is corrupt, and projects its main failings outwardly, a self-sacrificing and self-scrutinizing attitude keeps people under the "spell". When people turn away on an idealistic basis, they are said to have "emotionally split", to have reacted immaturely with black and white thinking.
Ultimately, it is the strongest idealists - large in soul even if small in their sense of self - who have the greatest chance of waking up. The choice between the deepest held ideals, vs. compromising with them in obedience to the spiritual authority, turns into a choice between psychic freedom vs. psychic enslavement.