Compassion through social strife

[Minyatur]

I'm having a tough time understanding this discussion.  Am I reading this correctly?  For Austin, unity is a state of mind brought on by balancing emotions, while for Minyatur this is theoretically possible, but not a stable state--for most of us in real life?

So, the premise is that unity is an emotional place where one can share love without pain because one is not set off by catalyst?  Is that it?  And then Minyatur further says that unity is about separation along with everything else, therefore one cannot actually rest in it?

Well to me, to be in the perspective of unity enables one to find insanely beautiful each and every aspect of Creation. What I meant about separation is more in the idea of the prism that shows the colors that steam from sunlight, there is unity without certain colors even if from your vantage point you have a strong distaste for them. So separation in the sense that every being, emotion and event gets its own limelight within time and space and that this is well. Everything is happening. We are infinity, we are love/light light/love, we are unity.

I did not mean that you can't rest in it either, just that I do not know how. Maybe I just don't meditate enough.

Then the experience of being one with Creation, being one with the Creator, is a modified version of normal consciousness reached in a linear fashion through emotional processing?  And because it includes separation, it cannot be stable?  Geez, that would be interesting.

Are you sure it's not a transformational non-linear leap to an higher level of "cosmic" awareness, and not something that the well known comfortably self rests in, but something one finds that one is?

Or maybe we're talking about two different things?  Maybe one is about a peaceable journey through refining emotional response to catalyst and the other is about recognition of self as consciousness on a variety of different levels simultaneously?  In the latter case, I see no meaningful conflict between being conscious of pain while also being conscious of unity.

I hope someone can follow this.  It's a bit psychedelic, I'm afraid.

I guess it is a bit both. The linear emotional processing allows one to be open to a degree of experience that may be seen more of a timeless nature and as a realization of what you contain at all times.

Also, I did not mean to not engage with or be conscious of pain. Just that you know, unity is there to turn toward if you are feeling at loss with it all, or at least that has worked for me multiple times. It is in no way necessary either.