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    Bring4th Bring4th Studies Spiritual Development & Metaphysical Matters Transition to Fourth Density [split] Knowing that you cannot know

    Thread: [split] Knowing that you cannot know


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    05-10-2021, 02:33 PM
    Something that Ra mentions multiple times is that placing importance on specific information attracts negative influence (26.36, 37.4, 62.23).

    From my perspective, when one is operating from the assumption that they have access to absolute truth then they will not be open to an equal exchange of ideas. There is an element of control where information and catalyst will be twisted and contorted to reinforce that understanding rather than admit that one could be mistaken. Conversation becomes a one-way street and any dissenting opinions will be forced to submit to the scrutiny of the other party before being dismissed on whatever grounds seem appropriate at the time.

    I don't think this situation is uncommon, it is something that I have certainly struggled with. Knowledge and personal understandings are necessary to navigate the systems of meaning in which we are embedded, the problem comes when one is not able to adapt those understandings or to discard them when they are found lacking. Knowledge and understanding are tools that can help us approach truth, but are not the truth in and of themselves so we should not grow too attached to them.

    One story that Ra tells of their 3rd density experience which I have always found intriguing is the case of the two positive 5D wanderer who came to help with their harvest and ended up polarizing negatively. The catalyst for this change in polarity was the focus on specific knowledge.

    Quote:89.35 Questioner: What was the catalyst for their change?

    Ra: I am Ra. In our peoples there was what may be considered, from the viewpoint of wisdom, an overabundance of love. These entities looked at those still in darkness and saw that those of a neutral or somewhat negative viewpoint found such harmony, shall we say, sickening. The Wanderers felt that a more wisdom-oriented way of seeking love could be more appealing to those in darkness.

    First one entity began its work. Quickly the second found the first. These entities had agreed to serve together and so they did, glorifying the One Creator, but not as they intended. About them were soon gathered those who found it easy to believe that a series of specific knowledges and wisdoms would advance one towards the Creator. The end of this was the graduation into fourth-density negative of the Wanderers, which had much power of personality, and some small deepening of the negatively polarized element of those not polarizing positively. There was no negative harvest as such.

    Anyhow, this is just the level of understanding that I am coming from at this moment, if this does not resonate with you please disregard.
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    [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Patrick - 05-07-2021, 09:09 AM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Ymarsakar - 05-08-2021, 08:53 AM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Ymarsakar - 05-08-2021, 09:17 AM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Black Dragon - 05-08-2021, 12:35 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Doomchief - 05-08-2021, 12:44 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Diana - 05-08-2021, 01:02 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Sacred Fool - 05-08-2021, 05:15 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Patrick - 05-08-2021, 07:47 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Ymarsakar - 05-08-2021, 07:56 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Patrick - 05-08-2021, 09:42 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Sacred Fool - 05-08-2021, 10:00 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Patrick - 05-08-2021, 10:37 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Black Dragon - 05-08-2021, 10:42 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Sacred Fool - 05-09-2021, 12:50 AM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by sillypumpkins - 05-08-2021, 08:00 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by LeafieGreens - 05-08-2021, 10:41 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Patrick - 05-08-2021, 10:56 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Black Dragon - 05-09-2021, 01:08 AM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Louisabell - 05-09-2021, 03:18 AM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Patrick - 05-09-2021, 07:43 AM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Ymarsakar - 05-09-2021, 08:11 AM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Sacred Fool - 05-09-2021, 11:33 AM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Patrick - 05-10-2021, 11:04 AM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Sacred Fool - 05-10-2021, 11:59 AM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Patrick - 05-10-2021, 01:03 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Minyatur - 05-10-2021, 01:32 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by flofrog - 05-10-2021, 01:36 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Ymarsakar - 05-10-2021, 01:47 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Patrick - 05-10-2021, 03:09 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Sacred Fool - 05-10-2021, 03:28 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Patrick - 05-10-2021, 03:50 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by sillypumpkins - 05-10-2021, 08:20 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Patrick - 05-10-2021, 08:46 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Diana - 05-11-2021, 12:11 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by yossarian - 05-11-2021, 12:22 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Ymarsakar - 05-11-2021, 06:46 AM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Ymarsakar - 05-10-2021, 01:05 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by sillypumpkins - 05-10-2021, 01:13 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Ymarsakar - 05-10-2021, 01:20 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Patrick - 05-10-2021, 02:21 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Patrick - 05-10-2021, 02:16 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Ymarsakar - 05-10-2021, 01:36 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Spaced - 05-10-2021, 02:33 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Ymarsakar - 05-10-2021, 04:11 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Louisabell - 05-10-2021, 09:07 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Patrick - 05-10-2021, 09:14 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Louisabell - 05-10-2021, 09:38 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Patrick - 05-11-2021, 06:44 AM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Patrick - 05-11-2021, 06:59 AM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Ymarsakar - 05-11-2021, 08:15 AM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Patrick - 05-11-2021, 08:51 AM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Patrick - 05-11-2021, 01:58 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by unity100 - 05-17-2021, 12:34 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Patrick - 05-17-2021, 12:56 PM
    RE: His Story and the past of humanity - by Ymarsakar - 05-07-2021, 10:08 AM
    RE: His Story and the past of humanity - by Patrick - 05-07-2021, 10:48 AM
    RE: His Story and the past of humanity - by flofrog - 05-07-2021, 11:04 AM
    RE: His Story and the past of humanity - by Relax - 05-07-2021, 11:10 AM
    RE: His Story and the past of humanity - by Patrick - 05-07-2021, 11:20 AM
    RE: His Story and the past of humanity - by flofrog - 05-07-2021, 11:23 AM
    RE: His Story and the past of humanity - by Relax - 05-07-2021, 11:31 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Patrick - 05-08-2021, 08:29 AM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Sacred Fool - 05-08-2021, 09:08 AM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Patrick - 05-08-2021, 09:37 AM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Sacred Fool - 05-08-2021, 04:37 PM
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