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    Bring4th Bring4th Studies Spiritual Development & Metaphysical Matters Transition to Fourth Density [split] Knowing that you cannot know

    Thread: [split] Knowing that you cannot know


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    05-17-2021, 12:34 PM
    (05-07-2021, 09:09 AM)Patrick Wrote: No matter how much information is gathered from veiled third density, the result is distorted. This is done on purpose so that we finally learn to release the attempt, in faith.

    That's not correct in both levels:

    3d entities do not release anything in 'faith'. They learn, even if subconsciously that, everything is one/united, and they choose an orientation towards that unity. Positive or negative. They dont 'release' anything in particular, nor there is any specific 'faith' that comes into play for 3d entities.

    Religions and religious faith and what is derived as 'faith' from them are a specific phenomenon of this particular planet, especially the phenomenon of its very specific semitic population. Th concept of 'faith', 'believing' and 'trusting' scarcely appear in the religions or philosophies of most of historic and modern world other than semitic religions, which have a specific obsession with faith. Namely, faith in the holy book, faith in the person who wrote that holy book and over those, faith in the god which that person claims to represent. Which is a trait taken from Mesopotamian religions. Not found in others - Asian, Central and South American, African, Indian religions dont have such a 'faith' trapping. In most of them, it doesnt matter whether you believe in god or have faith in anything. And in semitic religions, this specifically comes with 'keeping the faith in god/religion in order to qualify for something or get something in return'. Which is in itself scarce in many other religions.

    Similarly, other 3d planets are also not likely to repeat the same pattern - because it is a specific pattern even on this planet. Whether they have 'faith' in something or not, the mechanisms of yellow ray will work the same, including its eventual harvest - subconsciously understanding and/or consciously realizing that everything is one/united, and choosing a particular attitude towards that unity.

    It doesnt matter whether they have 'faith' in the existence of that unity. It absolutely doesnt matter whether they say they 'believe' that that unity exists or not. They must recognize that everything is one/connected.

    Quote:You say often that we are undergoing a test.

    That's another trait of semitic religions - 'being tested on Earth for getting into X or receiving Y in afterlife'. It doesnt exist even in other religions.

    Per Ra material, there is no 'test' either. You just realize that everything is connected, and then you develop a preferred attitude towards it.


    Ra 61.9 Wrote:...This is not a dimension of knowing, even subjectively, due to the lack of overview of cosmic and other inpourings which affect each and every situation which produces catalyst. The subjective acceptance of that which is at the moment and the finding of love within that moment is the greater freedom.

    Entities are not expected to understand the mechanics and dynamics of unity of existence in 3d. That's what that knowing is. Its not even remotely possible with our current science and knowledge level. But they are expected to internally know/realize that everything is connected, and choose how to react to it.

    It doesnt matter whether the realization comes subconsciously, it doesnt matter if it comes consciously, it does not matter whether the entity remembers that from its past lives by reading a channeled material like this on this planet. What matters is that the entity realizes it and chooses a response.

    Consciously choosing to dumb down mind complex and leaving things into obscurantism and deferring responsibility for the burden by leaving all to 'faith' is not a good way for polarization. Its no different from the behavior of people who take all the teachings to heart while in the temples, who then forget all of it the moment they step outside the temple door - something which Ra criticizes.

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    [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Patrick - 05-07-2021, 09:09 AM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Ymarsakar - 05-08-2021, 08:53 AM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Ymarsakar - 05-08-2021, 09:17 AM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Black Dragon - 05-08-2021, 12:35 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Doomchief - 05-08-2021, 12:44 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Diana - 05-08-2021, 01:02 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Sacred Fool - 05-08-2021, 05:15 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Patrick - 05-08-2021, 07:47 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Ymarsakar - 05-08-2021, 07:56 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Patrick - 05-08-2021, 09:42 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Sacred Fool - 05-08-2021, 10:00 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Patrick - 05-08-2021, 10:37 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Black Dragon - 05-08-2021, 10:42 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Sacred Fool - 05-09-2021, 12:50 AM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by sillypumpkins - 05-08-2021, 08:00 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by LeafieGreens - 05-08-2021, 10:41 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Patrick - 05-08-2021, 10:56 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Black Dragon - 05-09-2021, 01:08 AM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Louisabell - 05-09-2021, 03:18 AM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Patrick - 05-09-2021, 07:43 AM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Ymarsakar - 05-09-2021, 08:11 AM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Sacred Fool - 05-09-2021, 11:33 AM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Patrick - 05-10-2021, 11:04 AM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Sacred Fool - 05-10-2021, 11:59 AM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Patrick - 05-10-2021, 01:03 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Minyatur - 05-10-2021, 01:32 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by flofrog - 05-10-2021, 01:36 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Ymarsakar - 05-10-2021, 01:47 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Patrick - 05-10-2021, 03:09 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Sacred Fool - 05-10-2021, 03:28 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Patrick - 05-10-2021, 03:50 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by sillypumpkins - 05-10-2021, 08:20 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Patrick - 05-10-2021, 08:46 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Diana - 05-11-2021, 12:11 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by yossarian - 05-11-2021, 12:22 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Ymarsakar - 05-11-2021, 06:46 AM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Ymarsakar - 05-10-2021, 01:05 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by sillypumpkins - 05-10-2021, 01:13 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Ymarsakar - 05-10-2021, 01:20 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Patrick - 05-10-2021, 02:21 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Patrick - 05-10-2021, 02:16 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Ymarsakar - 05-10-2021, 01:36 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Spaced - 05-10-2021, 02:33 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Ymarsakar - 05-10-2021, 04:11 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Louisabell - 05-10-2021, 09:07 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Patrick - 05-10-2021, 09:14 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Louisabell - 05-10-2021, 09:38 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Patrick - 05-11-2021, 06:44 AM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Patrick - 05-11-2021, 06:59 AM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Ymarsakar - 05-11-2021, 08:15 AM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Patrick - 05-11-2021, 08:51 AM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Patrick - 05-11-2021, 01:58 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by unity100 - 05-17-2021, 12:34 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Patrick - 05-17-2021, 12:56 PM
    RE: His Story and the past of humanity - by Ymarsakar - 05-07-2021, 10:08 AM
    RE: His Story and the past of humanity - by Patrick - 05-07-2021, 10:48 AM
    RE: His Story and the past of humanity - by flofrog - 05-07-2021, 11:04 AM
    RE: His Story and the past of humanity - by Relax - 05-07-2021, 11:10 AM
    RE: His Story and the past of humanity - by Patrick - 05-07-2021, 11:20 AM
    RE: His Story and the past of humanity - by flofrog - 05-07-2021, 11:23 AM
    RE: His Story and the past of humanity - by Relax - 05-07-2021, 11:31 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Patrick - 05-08-2021, 08:29 AM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Sacred Fool - 05-08-2021, 09:08 AM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Patrick - 05-08-2021, 09:37 AM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Sacred Fool - 05-08-2021, 04:37 PM
    RE: [split] Knowing that you cannot know - by Patrick - 05-08-2021, 04:50 PM

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