Being consciously unloving.

[Dtris]

OK. I was not talking about the Romans, the Jews or Jesus or Y'shua. I was simply speaking about the meaning of the quote that was SAID by Jesus. Are we this dense?
And furthermore...until you are conscious you do unconscious things. Until the pattern that an individual is repeating comes up to the threshold of the conscious mind it remains illusive or a hidden thing. How can one forgive something they are not yet aware of? Hence, you own ignorance. And until then, one will hurt himself and others until the threshold of understanding has been breached and the work in consciousness can begin where he will find forgiveness as a crucial part of his eleviation of Karma and self suffering. This was not a fair comparison? How so? You have made ppl suffer unless you are about to tell me you are perfect in every way and have been since your creation on all planes of reality because the completely conscious individual remembers who he is, who he has been from the beginning. Like Y'shua or the Buddha. The Masters.

Ok I think I see better why I misunderstood. I believe I may have a different understanding of what Karma is, why Karma is and how Karma works.

Do you believe one can gather any significant Karma while having only loving/positive intentions?

I think it is only a western idea that karma is related to negative actions/intentions. Karma is traditionally seen as relationships made thru actions. These relationships can be with an individual, a family, an organization, or even a place or country.

While I am not an expert on buddhism I believe this relates to their concept of merits. Doing good deeds, and being loving and positive attracts karmic merit which will help the individual on their path to enlightenment. While doing negative deeds or causing harm creates blockages to enlightenment.

A similar concept exists in Taoist philosophy with the concept of Virtue. One who is virtuous will enhance their cultivation more quickly than one who is not virtuous.

Also while having positive intentions and being loving, if you still do harm thru misjudgement, neglect, or hubris, you will gather negative karma. I think this is probably fairly common among those who attempt to help others without permission or having been asked first.