Guardians of the quarantine doesnt seem infallible

[Steppingfeet]

My statement is definitely a reduction of the complexities of Ra's statement. Reductions are humorous, and they also simplify perspective (positively, IMO).

Oh, certainly! The most essential truths can be communicated in a few words. Nay, the deepest truth is communicated *without* words. Words by nature attempt to divide, categorize, compare, contrast, and make dual that which is infinite, unitary, and indivisible.

Reductions I believe do serve both of the purposes you listed. It was just that the particular reduction you made worked great for humor (which I appreciate) but as information-conveyor didn't speak well to the situation, as I see it at least. And I offered my perspective on why I saw it that way.

Just so you know, I wasn't knocking the distilling of elaborate word structures into simpler terms, just disagreeing with the logic of your statement.

Zenmaster wrote: I wonder if perception of intelligent infinity is in any way like a satori? After a satori there is no 'going back', and you have a 'ground of being' that seems to support everything.

Zenmaster, how would you define or describe satori? (I know that it is one of many terms used to point to various grades of self-realization, but it's basic meaning escapes me at the moment. I can look it up of course but its meaning to you is most pertinent here.)

I have experienced many things that could be considered 'paranormal', but all of those can be described. This experience was beyond words, but it's like you are suddenly a part of everything or connected to everything, and you 'know' you're directly participating as a creator in the present creation. You are connected to your 'true nature', which is eternal. You are not guessing this is what's happening, you are defining the meaning of it. It is an extremely peaceful feeling of sacredness, there are no limits. It is not a suggestion, or something interpreted through the senses - you know it is real. There is nothing ever to compare with the experience as far as a profound indication of 'true reality' and 'beingness'. So when it subsided, I was thinking to myself, 'that's cool that that type of experience is even possible'.

I have sensed (so to speak) this experience on the fringes of the moment, but as of yet remain rather stuck (imprisoned, more like it) in a thinking, time-bound mind.

So is this a traditional description of "satori"? If so, from my non-experiential standpoint, I would sure say it was an entry into the moment and a brush with intelligent infinity.

From my study I understand full immersion into intelligent infinity to be the end of subject and object. There would no longer be a separate "you" to experience something other than you. It would all simply be. Simply be "I AM".

But, I speak from theoretical understanding, not experience. The latter I seek.

With love and light,
GLB