06-23-2011, 11:06 PM
(06-23-2011, 08:24 PM)zenmaster Wrote: This was about 15 years ago, and I think I was reading the Diamond Sutra, the Sutra of Hui Neng, and ''Sufi path of Knowledge' at the time, which I strongly resonated with.
curious. this places your experience around 1995-96. mine, and one of my friend's were at that same particular time too.
(06-23-2011, 06:54 PM)Bring4th_GLB Wrote: Now this is an interesting thought. For many years I have operated under the premise that once you're a third-density entity - be it native, an import, or a wanderer - you must complete the requirements of harvest in order to graduate from third density. Either by achieving 51% STO at the closing of a 25,000 yr cycle, or by contacting intelligent infinity and thus self-harvesting.
Are you saying that there is no mention whatsoever of the wanderer needing to meet the requirements of harvest?
If so, does anyone reading this know of a section in the Law of One that would refute this statement? (Don't have the time to run a keyword search on "harvest".)
The "entangled" part you mentioned also, I thought, spoke to the possibility of karmic involvement *preventing* being harvested due to a reduction of polarity.
there are numerous mentions of wanderer returning to home or home density in the material
there is one mention of harvest for a wanderer being mentioned, but, that subject is about wanderers which got entangled with planetary vibrations .
http://lawofone.info/results.php?session...=1&ss=1#54
this can be interpreted to mean that the wanderers get harvested, and in case the wanderer got harvested in such a state, it becomes a planetary entity.
or, it can be interpreted in a way that, by getting entangled with the planetary vibrations, the entity makes itself a planetary entity, and therefore gets harvested.
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the main logical conclusion stems from the fact that harvests for different densities are not the same. 3d harvest seeks 51% positive polarity. 4d harvest seeks understanding and ability to use light.
so, you couldnt use 3d harvest as a means to gauge what level the entity is at, in regard to returning to its home society in 6d.
but, since the harvest mechanic includes by placing the entity in violet ray complex totality to see its true nature, this can be used to gauge the wanderer's resulting situation.
but, we have been told that the 3d harvest involves approaching a strength of light, however the mechanic described in the talk about death in the material (ie placement into violet ray 'body') does not mention it.
Quote:Yes, but my understanding has been (and I could have been mistaken all along) that regardless of the home density of the wanderer, once it enters third-density it must pass the same "test", so to speak, of graduation that every other third-density entity must pass.
I don't see why wanderers would be an exception that.
there has been no mention of such a necessity at any given point regarding talk of wanderers, or 3d entities.
even those who were not harvestable from end of 2nd cycle have been able to leave to join their brothers, despite a harvest had not happened. if a harvest was required for that, they couldnt leave.
same mechanic would probably work for wanderers for leaving the planet. harvest is probably not mandatory.
Quote:Environment plays a strong role in an entity's polarization, I agree. I recall Ra mentioning how once a planet went negative it was next to impossible for an entity to polarize positively, whereas that was not true in the opposite case.
However, I don't think it a prerequisite that in order to amass/use this quotient of energy on the positive path there need be an overwhelmingly positively polarized environment. Certainly such an environment would be an invaluable aid. But with sufficient will and faith, this light energy could still be amassed.
would need to be a sufficiently positive environment. that no mention of such harvestees were made during the history of this planet, may give some clues as to the level of positive environment required for that.
Quote:But as the entity works with, becomes aware of, and incorporates the spiraling light back into its being over the course of hundreds of millions of years, perhaps it becomes what we would consider to be "concentrated", imbuing itself into the fabric of that entity.
you are overcomplicating this. its actually too simple :
http://lawofone.info/results.php?session...c=1&ss=1#2
i wasnt able to find it now, however there was also another q/a in which the intersection point of the upward flowing energies from mind meeting the downpouring energies from the spirit complex defining the advancement of the entity.
in a wanderer, this intersection would naturally be high - since it involves spirit complex, whose biases are rather permanent - and the upward flowing energies would be flowing in much much stronger than a 3d entity.