07-17-2011, 10:58 PM
(07-16-2011, 12:11 AM)Tenet Nosce Wrote:(07-15-2011, 08:45 PM)unity100 Wrote: or negatives are always allowed to plunder as long as some guardians think that positive contact should be balanced - with their own perception of balance.Can you expand on that? Are you saying that the guardians might not be in congruence over this issue? I am not sure if I read that in the way you meant it.
(07-16-2011, 09:47 AM)zenmaster Wrote: I think unity is referring to the fact that since the guardians are in charge of the 'quarantine', and we had a negatively inspired elite on this planet that has had some influence historically and today, that they are directly allowing this. This is opposed to the 'natural' 3D calling due to bias to explore or to discover certain distortions which may desire negative opportunities.
I think it's more the case that the individuals that have used their 3D existence to polarize, naturally become more socially influential (i.e. as planetary logos) and have a stronger calling, regardless of service orientation.
http://lawofone.info/results.php?session...c=1&ss=1#6
apparently the quarantine on this planet was going to be light, and apparently this seems to be default quarantine form for planets. (since we dont have any other information, i am assuming that all 3d planets are quarantined in this manner from start of 3d, since it seems to be implies that).
however the quarantine was made heavier due to yawheh's screwup. therefore, this means, the guardians had the choice of making the quarantine stronger, or lighter. it means to be an act taken by free will, not a simple spiritual mechanic that is in place by itself. at least, we are not given any information to point us in that direction.
at a point, an orion vehicle was able to pass through quarantine, circa 1600 BC, through random window effect. ra says this was a manifestation that was governed by the guardian's future selves. then again we are seeing the passage of this vehicle tied to the choices and behavior of guardian entities.
on another hand, the guardians present selves could have lightened the quarantine before that, and allowed more negative influence. this would probably prevent the random window effect that happened later. even if we look at this, the passage of negatives seem to be tied to guardian's choices.
it is possible that the calling meets the random window effect. ie, the nature of need/calling on the planet fits the vibration model of the entities coming to meet it. (it is quite likely since they could very well exploit the deficiencies yahweh introduced genetically and socially). however, this would mean that physical entities which were physically able to come and penetrate this veil, (or entities that had the expertise and good fortune to penetrate the veil through other means - astral passage of the 5d entity -) were the ones answering this call.
this reduces the chances (actually eliminates, coupled with the heavy veil) of entities who could contact this planet on a more subtle level, like in astral plane, or in thought/vibration alone, from afar.
i see this system as exceedingly wrong.
the proper method should have been employing a light veil, so that the exact calling would match the exact vibration/model, and entities which were even half a galaxy away and cannot come to this planet or cannot pass a heavy veil through astral manifestations, or strength of their thought should have been able to answer calls.
this includes any call. not only negative calls. actually, even positive calls.
this seems to have been the case, even if (maybe) in a rather excessive manner, in Ra's experience. and the logos (or whomever decided to make the veil on this planet heavier) seems to have decided to make that veil heavier to facilitate 'free will'.
however all that such veils to, is to make conscious/subconscious connection exceedingly hard, causing any kind of vibration/thought the entity may have wanted to attract impossibly harder, leading up to the situation of distortions and impressions effected on the societal mind, or by the societal mind itself, to rape the free choice of the entity.
the word rape is carefully chosen there and it serves more than the purpose it seems to be serving - making subconscious connection harder makes the entity unable to move more heavily according to the choices its subconscious would offer, due to heavy veiling, and conscious and subconscious are tied to male and female aspects, respectively.