I wonder if the children growing up "quicker" could be attributed to the influx of Great Souls (harvest-ready) that wished to be incarnated for the harvest as well... not to mention that I could be completely wrong on that point as well. Kids were probably much more disciplined 60 years ago, truthfully.... but then is being disciplined an overall marker of spiritual growth?
... Now i'm just confused.
I feel the question at hand has almost become "when does duality and the quarantine switch off in response to harvest?" Does it happen strictly after harvest takes place, or is it possible it's also a gradual thing that is handled on a case-by-case basis. Again, from the supposed channeled information as of late, the Quarantine has been lifted, and the only thing holding off Disclosure is a few rogue government military groups who have yet to join the bargaining table. Until they have made the proper agreements with these people, we will wait unless a deadline is passed, in which case the plans will go ahead without them. If harvest is an event in our space/time and they are here to help facilitate, this urgency makes sense. Approaching the planet in this way also makes sense to me in that there are many on this planet who can be manipulated to do atrocious things; it is best if you can disable any threats before making contact if possible.
... Now i'm just confused.
(08-09-2011, 11:39 AM)3DMonkey Wrote:I think this is an interesting argument. I think Oceania is coming from a frustrated 4D-ready standpoint, while 3DM is approaching this with one foot firmly planted in 3D. I feel the truth lies within a spectrum that changes over time. 85 years ago, 3DM would be 100% correct; however, over time, I think Oceania's argument is becoming more and more true.(08-09-2011, 09:59 AM)Oceania Wrote: i think it's an invalid excuse. all free will to the extreme has done is make us suffer needlessly. since a lot of the "catalyst" is unused what POINT is there in it? none. and they approve of this needless crap. and what's done to animals is crazy. they're not here to polarize, so they shouldn't be affected. this whole thing is a disaster.
I don't think their are persons on a board of representatives their vote and discuss wht is allowed. I see it more like if all the members of this forum were actually my liver cells and I get blasted on tequila- we all complain about the pain, but I'm like 'sorry dudes, that's just a part of the drinking fun I enjoy, you're jus liver cells, it is part of being a liver cell'. You see what I mean? We don't have a choice because we aren't separate from anything. We are "intelligent infinity" (bleh) that has shaped energies into flesh. Then there are impulses of energies that are "mind" acting on this flesh within this spheres physics. We aren't some special individual who is loved by god. We are waves of expression of the universe. It just so happens that most of our pain is because of the paradox that we exist as a mind body spirit complex. It is this complex of thought that hurts us so. Oh, my dear, if I could only find the off button. There just isn't one.
I feel the question at hand has almost become "when does duality and the quarantine switch off in response to harvest?" Does it happen strictly after harvest takes place, or is it possible it's also a gradual thing that is handled on a case-by-case basis. Again, from the supposed channeled information as of late, the Quarantine has been lifted, and the only thing holding off Disclosure is a few rogue government military groups who have yet to join the bargaining table. Until they have made the proper agreements with these people, we will wait unless a deadline is passed, in which case the plans will go ahead without them. If harvest is an event in our space/time and they are here to help facilitate, this urgency makes sense. Approaching the planet in this way also makes sense to me in that there are many on this planet who can be manipulated to do atrocious things; it is best if you can disable any threats before making contact if possible.
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