08-11-2011, 08:45 AM
It is insane how the Law of One helps us when we are unconsiously looking for help.
To this argument, here is my 2 cents, but let me use a quote from Ra itself:
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I am Ra. Each mind/body/spirit or mind/body/spirit complex has an
existence simultaneous with that of creation. It is not dependent upon any
physical vehicle. However, in order to evolve, change, learn, and manifest
the Creator the physical vehicles appropriate to each density are necessary.
Your query implied that physical vehicles accelerated growth. The more
accurate description is that they permit growth.
Questioner: As an example I would like to take the distortion of a disease or
bodily malfunction prior to the veil and compare it to that after the veil. Let
us assume that the conditions that Jim experienced with respect to his
kidney malfunction had been an experience that occurred prior to the veil.
Would this experience have occurred prior to the veil? Would it have been
different? And if so, how?
Ra: I am Ra. The anger of separation is impossible without the veil. The
lack of awareness of the body’s need for liquid is unlikely without the veil.
The decision to contemplate perfection in discipline is quite improbable
without the veil.
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Now, "discipline" that was taught to youth decades ago are now defunct, or to be more precise, people are not teaching that to the children of today anymore. Why? That is a good question. But the discipline itself is just as analogue to the limitations of the physical body compared to the spirit/mind portion of our complex, and therefore I think that it can only help and "permit" growth.
Discipline for us meant that we have to knew our place. We had limitations about where to go out at night, what to do, how to speak to our elders, superiors. Childrens nowadays have no such limitations, and when the parents weakly try to enforce one upon them, their "ego" (such a bad word, but I will make a thread about this in the weekend, got a lot of ideas!) refuses that immediately.
They want no limitations. But the choice is still there. No limitations is only okay if you are not hurting others in the process. London riots, anyone? Quite the opposite is happening. I do not know about others, but I would not expect any real - normal or 'mystical' power upon others when I am not trained perfectly to do only good things with it instead of wielding it so I become a catalyst of anger, fear and destruction for others. Thanks, but that is a role I would not wanna take. Today's youth, however, seems to be perfectly capable of wielding even that kind of responsibility, to state it bluntly.
To this argument, here is my 2 cents, but let me use a quote from Ra itself:
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I am Ra. Each mind/body/spirit or mind/body/spirit complex has an
existence simultaneous with that of creation. It is not dependent upon any
physical vehicle. However, in order to evolve, change, learn, and manifest
the Creator the physical vehicles appropriate to each density are necessary.
Your query implied that physical vehicles accelerated growth. The more
accurate description is that they permit growth.
Questioner: As an example I would like to take the distortion of a disease or
bodily malfunction prior to the veil and compare it to that after the veil. Let
us assume that the conditions that Jim experienced with respect to his
kidney malfunction had been an experience that occurred prior to the veil.
Would this experience have occurred prior to the veil? Would it have been
different? And if so, how?
Ra: I am Ra. The anger of separation is impossible without the veil. The
lack of awareness of the body’s need for liquid is unlikely without the veil.
The decision to contemplate perfection in discipline is quite improbable
without the veil.
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Now, "discipline" that was taught to youth decades ago are now defunct, or to be more precise, people are not teaching that to the children of today anymore. Why? That is a good question. But the discipline itself is just as analogue to the limitations of the physical body compared to the spirit/mind portion of our complex, and therefore I think that it can only help and "permit" growth.
Discipline for us meant that we have to knew our place. We had limitations about where to go out at night, what to do, how to speak to our elders, superiors. Childrens nowadays have no such limitations, and when the parents weakly try to enforce one upon them, their "ego" (such a bad word, but I will make a thread about this in the weekend, got a lot of ideas!) refuses that immediately.
They want no limitations. But the choice is still there. No limitations is only okay if you are not hurting others in the process. London riots, anyone? Quite the opposite is happening. I do not know about others, but I would not expect any real - normal or 'mystical' power upon others when I am not trained perfectly to do only good things with it instead of wielding it so I become a catalyst of anger, fear and destruction for others. Thanks, but that is a role I would not wanna take. Today's youth, however, seems to be perfectly capable of wielding even that kind of responsibility, to state it bluntly.
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