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    Thread: Caring/Compassion/Sensitivity/Tact vs Lying/Faking


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    11-04-2011, 01:53 AM (This post was last modified: 11-04-2011, 01:54 AM by unity100.)
    (11-04-2011, 01:31 AM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote:
    (11-03-2011, 05:51 AM)unity100 Wrote:
    (11-02-2011, 10:05 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: If I walked up to a horribly disfigured person, say someone who had been severely burned or otherwise maimed, and said, "Your body is ugly and gross! You might scare children who think you're a monster!" I'd be telling the truth, but my action is STS because it's cruel, insensitive, and serves no purpose other than to hurt.

    no it doesnt. negative use of blue in this case would be to tell what the entity wants or doesnt want to hear, in order to make it dependent on the entity and its control for entity's benefit. that requires that the other entity should not have any kind of hesitations or irritation from obliging with the other entity. that, excludes telling of truth in brutal fashion, because it would alienate the other entity.

    what you depict could only be true for a negative 4d entity who would want to inflict pain on the other entity. however, in this case, 'truth' has little relevance.

    Whether 4D STS or 5D STS, do you agree that such an action is cruel, lacks compassion, and therefore is an STS act?

    no.

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    (11-03-2011, 05:51 AM)unity100 Wrote:
    Quote:Are you saying STS entities cannot be honest? I strongly disagree. Honesty can be used to hurt and manipulate

    so you basically did not spend any noticeable time pondering what sts is,

    This is an example of a rude comment, and a violation of B4 guidelines. It's disrespectful to assume that the other person hadn't studied the material, just because they disagree with you.

    As I just pointed out, I believe your analysis to be in error. I wouldn't say you hadn't studied the material. I simply disagree with your conclusions.

    that is not a disagreement. and i am right in assuming that you havent spent time on these, since you evidently transferring the meanings western popular culture has in its modern culture into positive/negative systems of power. you are basically equating being a jerk or blunt, with negativity. whereas, ironically, the traits you apparently are associating with positivity, ranging from the political correctness that you value so much to being soft spoken, are excessively used and manifested by those who actually do sts work on top of the government and society. yet, this detail does not catch your eye.

    not to mention you have concluded that missing green makes something negative/sts. which relegates any 3d entity to negative/sts status. you dont even remember that there are 3rd density negative societies in orion confederation, you dont even remember that there are positive and negative manifestations of yellow.

    you just delegated everything to presence of green.

    these are information that is present in entrance phases of the material.

    Quote:If you are indeed wrong, then you may be wrong about STS entities being capable of honesty as well.

    My opinion is that it's just as wrong to assume that STS entities are never honest, as it is to assume that they are always honest.

    Honesty has no relevance to an STS entity. An STS entity will use whatever info it has available to him, and if that info happens to be the truth, then so be it - it will be used just as ruthlessly as it would use lies.

    and here, you are equating information with honesty. that is also wrong. information does not have anything to do with 'honesty' as a general term. honesty is not something that is limited to information. even if a sts entity transmitted you accurate factual information, it would not disseminate the reason that it is disseminating that information, moreover, it would never communicate its feelings/desires/thoughts to you. that would mean that they would need to tell you how they intend to exploit you, what they feel about you, all the negative exploitative things that are associated with it. you wont get that kind of communication.

    as for facts, we actually do not have any record of any such fact transmission in our history. despite Ra had had mentioned that when negatives meet a positive, the information they transmit take the form of warnings against future dangers, we dont have a solid example of this - what we know to be a negative transmission is 10 commandments, and they are just orders for stuff.

    however it is safe to assume that Ra was precise on that one too, considering the amount of potential information that include warnings about future catastrophes in religions.

    BUT, that does not mean this information, was truth, fact, or accurate and not lies.

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    (11-03-2011, 05:51 AM)unity100 Wrote: yes, these kind of stuff cause me to react in a manner which some of you find distasteful.

    No, nothing 'causes' you to react in 'distasteful' ways. YOU CHOOSE to react in distasteful ways.

    You could just as easily choose to react in more respectful ways, as you've been asked to do by numerous members as well as the mods, numerous times.

    surely. and the other people who are discussing with me when i react like that, may have chosen not to easily switch on/off about the discussion and selectively switch on ignoring/acknowledging information depending on their bias/preference in just 2 pages, ignoring it when they see fit, and suddenly turning to acknowledge it when they see otherwise.

    if you relegate these to 'choice' everything is very simple. we can just choose not to, right ?

    Quote:Furthermore, you yourself react in 'sharp and certain opinions' yet you have been proven wrong before, and I am of the opinion that you are wrong in this case too.

    me being proven wrong before does not make universal positive/negative systems of power, things that are relegated and debased into simplified perceptions of american society and its biases.

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    (11-03-2011, 05:51 AM)unity100 Wrote: apparently, you didnt want to sing even in friend's circles enough that you couldnt pass a small hurdle your mother presented you.

    You have missed the point. It doesn't matter whether I wanted to sing publicly or not. At age 10, I was singing just for fun. My exuberance was cruelly squashed by an insensitive mother.

    I might never have sung publicly anyway. That's irrelevant. What is relevant is that my momentary joy was extinguished.

    and what if your momentary joy not being extinguished, would cause you to follow a totally different path in life, and die of drug overdose in some shady motel room on some highway at the age of 25 ?

    why is that opportunity/path more valuable than this one, or this opportunity/path was more valuable than the other ?

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    (11-03-2011, 05:51 AM)unity100 Wrote:
    Quote:In that case, she could have truthfully said something like:

    "Honey, I'm so happy to hear you are interested in singing! Would you like voice lessons when you get a little older? Here, let me teach you how to breathe deeply and get the most out of your voice."

    and that would be a lie, a false information, a false hope.

    You cannot know that! How could you possibly know that it would be a false hope?

    How could offering voice lessons be a false hope? That doesn't even make sense. In my example, I didn't suggest that she say: "Your voice is beautiful! You are a natural singer! You will be the next great star!" That would have been false hope. But that's not what I was suggesting at all.

    Offering voice lessons would have been a constructive way to help a child make the most of whatever talent they have. It could also have been a way to explore singing to find out just how much I really liked it.

    and, you may have died off drug overdose still.

    'how can something be of false hope' has actually an answer which is much more deep and delicate than the question itself.

    it relates to the spirit, its drive, its desire, and trust in the spirit.

    Quote:In junior high and high school, I enrolled in a Speech & Drama class for 3 years. I loved it! For a little while, I fancied myself becoming an actress.

    But I dropped that idea on my own. No one needed to squash my dream for me. I figured it out on my own that I didn't want to pursue acting. But I had fun during those 3 years, so it was time well spent. It was a good experience.

    you yourself are saying that you fancied being something else for a while. this means, if the singing was treated the same, you could fancy it too. maybe the time spent in singing lessons would not be well spent as the one spent in acting lessons were, and different things that were undesirable were going to happen ?


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    (11-03-2011, 05:51 AM)unity100 Wrote: she was not happy at that point to see you sing apparently. and even if she was, her dissatisfaction at your singing had had suppressed it to the point she expressed it.

    You are correct that she wasn't happy. But that's because she was a very miserable person. Any normal, loving mother would be happy to witness her child's joy and exuberance.

    My example was based on what a normal, loving mother might say.

    again, an entity acting irate or undesirable does not constitute negativity.

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    (11-03-2011, 05:51 AM)unity100 Wrote: negative catalyst would be your mother telling you that you have a very good singing voice, and then using that amiable condition to manipulate you to doing things for her, or put you through various classes and lessons in order to make you participate in contests to make money over you.

    That's a different example of negative catalyst, but not the only possible one.

    Do you not see lack of compassion as negative? Do you see no value in compassion or kindness at all?

    that is a negative catalyst. someone acting irrate or undesirable towards someone else, is NOT something that is in the negative system of power or polarization. the other entity needs to exploit you for it to be a negative act. some 3d entity acting like a jerk, does not constitute 'negative'. you are just transplanting the word 'negative' the modern western social culture uses to denote undesirable behavior to the negative system of power definition.

    'acting like a jerk' is not something that was in the definition of negative system. negative system of power was defined as exploiting others for your own benefit.


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