Caring/Compassion/Sensitivity/Tact vs Lying/Faking

[Tenet Nosce]

Prerequisites exist to provide free-will choices. Progression is part of the learning process.

And yet, one need not know algebra to perform calculus. The idea of a linear progression through school appears to be attached to the Blue Meme.

People are "at" different stages of development based on learning needs.

And the primary role of an educator should be to identify the appropriate stage of development in the student, and teach from there, rather than to attempt to cram the whole class into their limited view (or worse teaching to some state-mandated "standard") or to squash creative thinking because it is nonconformist and/or makes the other students uncomfortable.

Individuals who are themselves stuck at the blue/orange level should not be educators. Certainly not to anybody who is working with higher memes.

In the SD system, dogma is learnt as part of 'blue' conformist ideologies - it usually has its support in religion with promise of transcendence and reward to the faithful.

Does the SD system allow for the presence of souls who have never passed through the subsistence value memes? Does it allow for a child's awareness to be at the Turquoise level, or does it insist that is not possible for a child?

There either is no original thought, or all thought is original. Truly. There are naturally just as many approaches with products are 'pearls' as there are anti-system approaches with products of projection.

Ehhh. I do see what you are saying, to a point. What I mean here by "original thought" is original for earth humans. A unique perspective. I am attempting to draw a distinction between true and false creativity, and somewhat griping about all the "systems" out there being pushed that in some way represent a return to the past, or doing what was done before (and failed).

Example: A presidential candidate whose basic "plan" is to "do what Reagan did". Um.. that is not a "plan" that is mimicry.

That's called 'identification' in the West and 'attachment' in the East, which is the basis for survival-oriented consciousness. It is important in its own scope, and, as you are learning, no so important in another scope.

Yes. The scope in which it is not so important is in the realm of spirituality and personal development. 15 years ago, there was an explosion of writers in these fields. Instead of comparing notes and finding out what was in common, each chose to go the "copyright" path, do the "lecture tours" and "workshops" and so on. Branding. So it is more than a little ironic to me that all these so-called gurus and experts can't see past their own attachments to the systems that they "created".

Perhaps, perhaps not. On an individual basis, people can recognize credibility through commonality of experience. The more well-trodden paths can be a shared foundation for exploring something more novel.

And what happens when one has no direct experience (from within this lifetime) to draw from? They have no credibility. Especially a child couldn't possibly have credibility because they "haven't lived long enough to know anything". And so on. The problem in this case seems to be the notion of "Tabula Rasa" that is one of those theories that is presented as a fact.

The marking of the stones is something an individual learns for themself. It's obviously counter productive to annotate relatives vs absolutes with regard to declarations, and the more discerning reader can always do this for themself - which is infinitely more desirable.

What would be infinitely more desirable is for authors to provide a Quo-like disclaimer on their works, and to include at least one chapter at the end outlining the shortcomings of their system and suggesting ways that it can be improved. THEN, if and when somebody else comes along and improves the system, this would actually be welcomed and accepted, and no copyright infringement battles would ensue.

By the way, a fully functional approach to this issue is represented among the open-source and hacker community, whereupon information is freely shared with the specific intent that others add to, and improve upon, the existing knowledge base.

It is a person's perrogative to engineer their own wedges from 'truly' connecting with one another. The SD system is obviously not such a wedge - it was designed to recognize the value of needs and connect. http://www.soulscode.com/spiral-dynamics...explained/

I see.

If it's true disguise, that's what Ra referred to as a negative polarizing attitude. Because in order to disguise, there has to be acknowledgement. In order to not apply honesty to that acknowledgement, there has to be repression. There is great potential being done through such clever working.

Perhaps disguise wasn't the ideal word choice. The point is that all spiritual seekers, including myself, should be reaching for what is next. Not pulling people back into the past.

I will say it again differently. For a person who goes through life getting offended at the drop of a hat, flipping out because somebody said retard instead of mentally challenged, and/or losing their cool because somebody told them they are "wrong", it should be obvious that THEY are the ones who need to grow into a new understanding.

Actually the green vmemers are the very ones pointing it out with such fervor. They see healthy vs pathological behavior with respect to green (where they are still learning the scope and propriety of egalitarianism). Unfortunately their ideology is strongly colored with a rather 'absolute', universal, idea of valueless relativism/pluralism, so this is what they unconsciously reference with no solutions (which would require valuing).

I see. Then who are the ones that flatly deny that such people exist? Who believe that "everybody is just doing their best" and "nobody would ever commit such heinous acts against humanity"? These would be the same ones who dismiss any non-mainstream view as "rubbish" or a "conspiracy theory". Or who seem to feel that conspiracies happen in other places, or in other times, but NEVER here/now in the USA. (No American would EVER sell out his countrymen to make a fast buck!)

---

Oprah panders to the people.

My favorite is when people come up to me and say something to the effect of "OMG! You sound like Dr. Oz!" Really? Cause I think Dr. Oz sounds like me. But since he is on teevee, we will just give him all the credit.

Natural medicine was all "quackery" before Dr. Oz. Television is what makes things "real" to people.