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    Thread: What is the value of faith?


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    01-31-2012, 10:46 PM
    (01-31-2012, 05:16 PM)peregrine Wrote:
    (01-31-2012, 09:40 AM)zenmaster Wrote: If faith is trust, then the question of 'should' or 'shouldn't' isn't really an option.

    I'm not sure I understand why you offer this. Is not free will in play here?
    Free will is in play, but there is no subject-object differentiation with 'faith' - it's that obvious. So discrimination doesn't come into play.

    (01-31-2012, 05:16 PM)peregrine Wrote: Just because I believe something doesn't mean that I can get it together to act on it. (Trust me.)
    The type of 'faith' that we are talking about has nothing to do with believing in something. It is primary to the type of decisions we make involving actions. In other words it is the background or supports anything that may emerge in one's worldview in the first place.

    So asking if 'free will' applies to 'faith' is like asking if we have a choice to deny something that is quite obviously ourselves. If you deny it, then that is not faith.


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    What is the value of faith? - by Lavazza - 01-07-2012, 02:06 AM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by Tenet Nosce - 01-07-2012, 02:17 AM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by zenmaster - 01-07-2012, 03:27 AM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by kycahi - 01-07-2012, 04:44 AM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by Shin'Ar - 01-07-2012, 10:30 AM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by zenmaster - 01-07-2012, 01:06 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by Shin'Ar - 01-07-2012, 04:25 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by Bring4th_Austin - 01-07-2012, 05:18 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by zenmaster - 01-07-2012, 05:47 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by Diana - 01-20-2012, 01:35 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by zenmaster - 01-20-2012, 09:41 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by abstrktion - 02-02-2012, 12:25 AM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by Namaste - 01-07-2012, 11:47 AM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by Tenet Nosce - 01-07-2012, 01:18 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by zenmaster - 01-07-2012, 02:02 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by Tenet Nosce - 01-07-2012, 02:32 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by zenmaster - 01-07-2012, 02:41 PM
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    RE: What is the value of faith? - by native - 01-07-2012, 04:58 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by Shin'Ar - 01-07-2012, 04:28 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by cosmiclady - 01-07-2012, 09:16 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by Shin'Ar - 01-07-2012, 10:32 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by zenmaster - 01-08-2012, 03:40 AM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by βαθμιαίος - 01-08-2012, 10:56 AM
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    RE: What is the value of faith? - by βαθμιαίος - 01-09-2012, 10:31 AM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by Tenet Nosce - 01-10-2012, 12:31 PM
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    RE: What is the value of faith? - by Lavazza - 01-11-2012, 01:07 PM
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    RE: What is the value of faith? - by Tenet Nosce - 01-10-2012, 08:22 PM
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    RE: What is the value of faith? - by native - 01-22-2012, 03:32 PM
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    RE: What is the value of faith? - by zenmaster - 01-31-2012, 09:40 AM
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    RE: What is the value of faith? - by zenmaster - 01-31-2012, 10:46 PM
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