03-18-2012, 02:26 AM
(This post was last modified: 03-18-2012, 02:28 AM by Bring4th_Austin.)
(03-17-2012, 10:02 PM)zenmaster Wrote: http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/...ee_will%3F
This article is crazy. I didn't know that determinism was discussed by quantum physicists?
Quote:Kochen and Conway say the best way out of this paradox is to accept that the particle’s spin doesn’t exist until it’s measured. But there’s one way to escape their noose: Suppose for a moment that Alice and Bob’s choice of axis to measure is not a free choice. Then Nature could be conspiring to prevent them from choosing the axes that will reveal the violation of the rule. Kochen and Conway can’t rule that possibility out entirely, but Kochen says, “A man on the street would say, ‘Don’t be ridiculous.’ A natural feeling is, of course, that what we do, we do of our own free will. Not completely, but certainly to the point of knowing we can choose what button to push in an experiment.”
Quote:Gerard ’t Hooft of the University of Utrecht in the Netherlands, who won the Nobel Prize in physics in 1999, says the pair’s conclusions are legitimate — but he chooses determinism over free will. “As a determined determinist I would say that yes, you bet, an experimenter's choice what to measure was fixed from the dawn of time, and so were the properties of the thing he decided to call a photon,” ’t Hooft says. “If you believe in determinism, you have to believe it all the way. No escape possible. Conway and Kochen have shown here in a beautiful way that a half-hearted belief in pseudo-determinism is impossible to sustain.”
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Anyways
So the behavior of subatomic particles seems arbitrary, as if it has the free will to decide how to behave. So essentially their behavior forms the illusion around us, interacting with our perception to create our reality. Could it be that through their free will, just like us, they express a type of archetypal energy that our particular Logos has chosen? Thus every step of our evolution, from 1D material to 3D beings, our existence is shaped by these energies. The presence of archetypes within the human mind could be both divine (archetype?) and also a result of evolutionary adaptation to our environment (archaic remnant?). The energies set in place and we mold to them, evolving the archetypes in our mind that the Logos has chosen for us through simply evolving within an environment essentially constructed, step by step, through archetypal expression.
Just thoughts.
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