05-27-2012, 08:55 AM
(05-26-2012, 06:38 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote:(05-26-2012, 02:06 PM)ShinAr Wrote: I would not agree with this. In my understanding, the left hand path is known in most of the eastern cultures as the divine Feminine path of seeking the Goddess within.
I think the modern usage of it as selfserving has resulted in the modern occult followings saying that they follow the left hand path and they do so inappropriately and in defiance and ignorance of ancient teachings. the left hand path would have as its goal the sacrifice of self in order to achieve transcendence from the physical.
Just my thoughts and opinions, not preaching any particular religion.
I think it is just a matter of perspective. For example, a spiral which appears to be rotating clockwise from one side, will appear to be rotating counterclockwise from the other side.
Quote:But in a universe of natural duality how can one claim success without stating that they somehow altered the universe into a state where it is no longer one of duality?
By shifting one's perception to BOTH/AND in contrast to EITHER/OR. It is the ability to look at both sides of a duality and see that they are both true.
Here is an example. Pick any one place and time on the earth is it wet or dry? It is going to be either one or the other, right? But now zoom out to include the entire planet in one's consciousness. Now, is it wet or dry? It is both. Some parts are wet, some parts are dry. Simultaneously.
Now imagine that we picked one place, but looked at it from a vast perspective of time, say over ten thousand years. Is it wet or is it dry? The question doesn't even make any sense! It is both wet and dry.
Growth all comes down to the contextual field. Am I thinking only of myself, and my immediate needs and desires? Am I considering my family? My colleagues? My nation? My planet? What is the contextual field in which we are making these decisions? And which contextual field is most relevant to which types of decisions?
Duality is a useful tool for growth. But it is a tool, not the growth itself. Eventually, one outgrows the need for tools.
As usual my friend I am once again unsure of what you are saying. It is my fault. There are certain people who have ways of expressing themselves that certain other types have difficulty interpreting. I know because I am misinterpreted myself in this way.
So I will just state my thoughts without questioning yours.
I do not think duality is a matter pf perspective. I agree that there is most definitely observations of perspective, but those observations are not what make a thing real or unreal.
If we are both looking at a car from opposite sides, and that car is painted red on one side and blue on the other, we will each see a different color. that is perception. Our perception however has not altered the reality of the car being red and blue.
Just because you see the red car does not mean that car is all red.
If we apply that to duality, we understand that the anti-force to the force of origin, is not perspective, it is as real as the force. The opposite of a thing is every bit as real as it is.
TN, you seem to be using duality as a means to define the choices of a person's decision making as irrelevant because you see duality as a matter of perspective. Is that what you were saying or am I misunderstanding you?
You say it is a tool of growth, and not the growth itself. I do not understand what you mean here.
If you mean that the struggle to polarize because we exist in a universe of dual nature, causes growth, than I agree that duality has its purpose in the evolution of consciousness. And I agree that it is not the actual growth, because the universe is already one of duality by nature and that is not changing via some growth of such duality.
What changes is the entire universe and the various states within it. The duality of it never changes because duality is the very nature and essence of the universe.
I am speculating here as always and trying to use discourse with others to comprehend these things of such wonderment. No preaching is intended.