08-06-2012, 07:39 PM
(08-06-2012, 03:01 PM)Siren Wrote: This is how I "un-scramble" all this:
There is Infinity. This is All There Is. Therefore It must also be the Only One: the Infinite One.
This Infinity is, or becomes(?*) intelligent/aware/conscious of itself: of its own INFINITUDE. Upon doing so, the first inevitable realization is that of infinite POTENTIAL (as of "yet" unexplored, untapped), and hence: WILL (willFORCE, willPOWER). This WILL, this potential is INFINITE. This is the 1st distortion (prior to which, there was NO distortion).
Being INFINITE, it is also infinitely FREE. Therefore its will is a FREE-will. But in order to truly experience this infinity and this freedom it MUST conceive of a system of experience, which is only possible through regulations, laws and limitations. This IDEA is the THOUGHT, or focus, of Intelligent Infinity ("the choice of attack," as Ra calls it), the Active Creative Principle responsible for the CREATION. The very moment Intelligent Infinite FOCUSES, the moment this vortex of ENERGY yields the work/kinetic (action) that MANIFESTS the Creation.
The CREATION is LIGHT, the 3rd distortion. LIGHT is like the drawing on a blackboard: lines and forms and figures and patterns and shapes. In other words, light is what allows the delineation of various fastidiously meticulous systems and processes and configurations which allow for an EXPERIENCE. The Creation is nothing but a framework for experience, the stage upon which we (the Creator) play and dance and grow and learn and EXPERIENCE.
Let me offer you a very simple analogy:
Imagine a blackboard. The BLACKBOARD would be INTELLIGENT INFINITY, the BRUSH would be the LOGOS, and the PAINT would be the CREATION.
There is of course no painting without an artist to paint it, and there is no artist without the potential for an artist to be. What you perceive as "blackness" is nothing but INFINITY (in its as of yet unpotentiated, unfocused, untapped state/phase).
In truth, there is no step-by-step linearity in this. That the 3 are ONE is simultaneous: for as long as there is Intelligent Infinity (which is for-ever), there will always be a focus (or rather, foci/logoi), and the moment there is a focus, the moment there is a creation.
There is only INFINITY.
Everything else is a mystery.
*I am somewhat uncapable of distinguishing Infinity apart from Intelligence.
Two things here Siren,
First you speak of the One having to devise the design where you say this …… "But in order to truly experience this infinity and this freedom it MUST conceive of a system of experience"UNQUOTE
Does this not conflict with the whole simultaneity thing?
This would suggest that there was a time when creation needed to be conceived and developed.
Simultaneity on the other hand suggests that all is ever present.
Secondly you seem to admit to confusion yourself over the aspect of infinity where you deliberately place the question mark here where you say "This Infinity is, or becomes(?*)"UNQUOTE
Even as you state that infinity 'becomes', suggesting an uncreated future yet to be developed, you also realize the dilemma causing you to question what you have just thought.
13.5 Questioner: Thank you. Can you tell me of the first known thing in the creation?
Ra: I am Ra. The first known thing in the creation is infinity. The infinity is creation.
13.6 Questioner: From this infinity then must come what we experience as creation. What was the next step or the next evolvement?
Ra: I am Ra. Infinity became aware. This was the next step.
Here Ra says that Infinity is creation. And then Ra says that Infinity became aware. That is the same as saying that Creation became aware.
27.12 Questioner: I would like for you to define love in its sense as the second distortion.
Ra: I am Ra. This must be defined …….the type of energy of an extremely, shall we say, high order which causes intelligent energy to be formed from the potential of intelligent infinity …..
Here Ra states that … the energy of an (extremely higher order), causes intelligent energy to be formed from the potential of Intelligent Infinity which Ra just defined above as Creation. So Ra is saying that some High Order causes intelligent energy using the potential of creation.
What is the potential of creation? Further creation? Experience? Existence?
And what is this High Order that Ra speaks of as causing intelligent energy by using the potential of creation, when Ra has just stated that Intelligent Infinity is creation?
If we do not dissect these quotes and ask these questions when such things are spoken, and we simply accept them without even making sense of them, we would be no better than the Christians in their churches following their priests without question.
And it just seems that when these particular quotes are dissected they begin to contradict themselves. Or become confused as to their actual meaning.
Does anyone else see this or am I the only person that does not comprehend what Ra is saying here?
What I am observing is Ra speculating on the creation of the cosmos, which is all that any created thing can do. The truth of the origin of creation remains a Mystery, and a paradox that cannot be fathomed, and so it makes sense that even Ra would have difficulty voicing its thoughts about such Mystery.
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