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    Ali Quadir (Offline)

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    01-19-2010, 07:01 PM
    (01-19-2010, 04:10 PM)Jim Kent + Wrote: Defining before hand what you're going to do in certain situations is all vey well, but what happens if you have a completely unexpected experience that you cannot possibly comprehend???
    I love those moments. The way I respond is similar to how I responded as a child to things that were new to me. There was this contraption in a science oriented museum once. It was basically a large rope and body armor versus a slanted wall You get tied to it and you can walk around and jump on the wall like you would on the moons lower gravity.. First I stood.. Then I took small steps. Then I took larger steps, and only then I jumped.

    I was an atheist when I encountered the spiritual for the first time. My beliefs turned around 180 degrees overnight. I could not reject the new reality. But I chose to function according to the old one and explore the new one privately. Stand, walk, jump. I told myself I had two drawers. One is city block, the other is far out mystic.

    It has happened that something occurred, that I would now respond to, that I at that time did not do because I was not ready. But when I was ready it occurred again. Mostly they kept pace with me.

    Jim, I might sound like I'm playing 20 questions with you. I'm sincerely intrigued. In my attempt to understand things I often ask many questions and some people interpret this as being negatively inclined towards the information. I'm not, I'm trying to get it from out there to in here Smile

    Any objections I could have kinda vanishes in the realization that my story is crazy too Smile

    (01-19-2010, 04:10 PM)Jim Kent + Wrote:
    Ali Quadir Wrote:Before your heart attack. Did you have these intense emotions as well? Or did they start around that time?
    A: The green-ray experience at 15 was beuatifully intense, but the mystical experiences I've had since do seem to be of a greater order of intensity.
    Green is heart right? When we mature and are spiritual our experiences tend to deepen... But I understand from your words that it's not just deeper. It's vastly more intense. Near death experiences do this to people. Heart attacks as brushes with death do it. Mystical experiences do it. So it sounds like it should if you had all of them in one experience.

    Did you check with a doctor? They can measure the after effects of heart attacks. In the atmosphere of a rave under the influence that you were the heart can sometimes explode with energy. And this can be painful if it's too strong too quickly.

    This won't actually make a difference to your experiences of course but loose ends sometimes bite us in the bum.

    (01-19-2010, 04:10 PM)Jim Kent + Wrote:
    Ali Quadir Wrote:Also are you in two minds about things?
    A: The only perceivable diffence between before and after we became conjoined is that my original Soul feels quite at home incarnate as a human, whereas my second Soul does not.
    How do you know your second soul does not? How does it tell you?

    I'm kinda from a different frame of reference, I believe there is only one soul. This soul experiences every soul like a "regular" soul would. However, sometimes the flow of energy gets intertwined with energy "intended" for another mind/body complex. And thus the two begin to act as one in certain areas. Basically we're given a viewport into another mind/body complex.

    In my case I picked up a fragment of an entity that bore a great deal of suffering and was unable to recover energetically it clung to me as a source of energy, when I figured it out I did not know it's history but I started feeding it energy. And we shared this body for a while. I have had good laughs in that time in my life. And with the positive experiences and energy it started to dissipate. Either we merged or he moved on, his signature is rare now.

    (01-19-2010, 04:10 PM)Jim Kent + Wrote:
    Ali Quadir Wrote:Is one part of your mind in dialog with an other part?
    A: At one time this was the case, but it became so pervasive that it really got on my nerves, not to mention the drivel that I/we came out with when I chose to write my conversations down.
    Did you have trouble sticking to this reality in daily life? You took quite a blow so it's possible that these were aftershocks of your choices up until then. If something doesn't make sense or draw me in I don't follow it up myself. When it's raining we don't have to catch every single drop on our tongue. So I understand your choices there.

    (01-19-2010, 04:10 PM)Jim Kent + Wrote:
    Ali Quadir Wrote:Do you have moodswings, personality shifts?
    A: No.
    Ok, I saw a few of them.

    (01-19-2010, 04:10 PM)Jim Kent + Wrote:
    Ali Quadir Wrote:Facial structure changes?
    A: No.
    Ok, I also saw a few of those.

    (01-19-2010, 04:10 PM)Jim Kent + Wrote:
    Ali Quadir Wrote:Do you have the sensation of one moment being the one the next moment being the other?
    A: No.
    I guess that means you weren't switching, do you think the second soul takes care not to express itself too much?

    (01-19-2010, 04:10 PM)Jim Kent + Wrote:
    Ali Quadir Wrote:Did the walk in identify itself?
    A: Not as such, but even in the cloud of a drugs overdose, I felt that i was communicating with a powerful and very loving entity.
    Did it feel omnipresent and primal? Often people call this experience God. You said elsewhere you don't believe, and that's all right. God is a label we put on an experience. It's not very accurate in many cases anyway, I'm just curious about what the experience of the entity was like.

    (01-19-2010, 04:10 PM)Jim Kent + Wrote:
    Ali Quadir Wrote:Did it carry knowledge?
    A: If it did - then I can't remember any of it!!! ( pesky veil of forgetting! )
    Well a whole lot of information already came through Smile It changed your life apparently.

    (01-19-2010, 04:10 PM)Jim Kent + Wrote:
    Ali Quadir Wrote:Can you tell it's affect towards you?
    A: the major difference I can perceive about myself after this conjoining of Souls is that fairly soon after this experience I felt that i was on some kind of Spiritual mission, initially through my music and eventually through my book of philosoophy.
    Perhaps the information we talked about above is pushing against the veil giving you the urge to express it Smile Just follow the urge don't assume the best will come up first, like a well it first produces some mud before clear water comes up. Be playful and be discerning about what comes up.

    What did you feel you wanted to accomplish with your mission? I'm assuming you had a sense of direction you wanted events to move towards?

    (01-19-2010, 04:10 PM)Jim Kent + Wrote:
    Ali Quadir Wrote:Questions questions eh? Wink
    Please find below an excerpt from my book describing this event:
    You describe a very strong spiritual experience. These can easily serve to initiate us in our spiritual path. The fact that drugs were involved doesn't quite set it apart from millions of years of shamanic tradition. Raves are relatively new though. Smile

    The essence of a spiritual experience is in how it impacts our life. If we grow through it it was a good experience, profound or mundane.

    Try to keep a level head. The path is tricky enough. No sense in running. Smile

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    Are Two Souls Better Than One? - by Jim Kent + - 01-14-2010, 05:42 PM
    RE: Are Two Souls Better Than One? - by Questioner - 01-14-2010, 10:40 PM
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