(10-31-2019, 08:52 AM)Nau7ik Wrote: We have a very important clue into how the mind works: the Tarot archetypes.Yet getting to this point has nothing to do with choice but the culmination of all experiences getting one to this point
Until the mind has been potentiated, the subconscious is not producing the personally valuable material which can be worked on consciously. Most people are not aware of the catalyst that they are working with (ie experience). When the WILL is focused and directed towards seeking greater understanding of the self, does the subconscious fist become ennobled and then the conscious mind is thereby “ennobled”. With firm authority does the Emperor grasp that which is given him. It’s being given from himself; the Empress aspect, the potentiated subconscious.
The Significant Self must also be considered as it is a highly developed portion of our being. It is partially influenced by the veil but not entirely. It is the Significator who has the Will to choose, and choose he does. It is at the instigation of the Significator that we seek to know ourselves and this begins the whole process of Initiation (of Mind).
(10-31-2019, 08:52 AM)Nau7ik Wrote: It is our choice what we shall do with the Catalyst we are given. Catalyst ceases being random as our consciousness becomes awakened to greater spiritual reality. Then we take part in this planning (The Significator). Then that pre chosen catalyst is given during the incarnation. Where is the free will then?This still does not seem like the normal definition of free will to me. All these biases are tipping us to one choice or the other. What even we seek is a product of all experiences and how they distort the perception of consciousness. I am not saying you are wrong at all, actually you are correct, it's just this is not taking away anything in my view from the data in data out. Once we are aware due to the data that made us aware, it will again tilt our perceptions in a different way.
It is then that we may choose (Significator) what to do with that Catalyst (The Emperor). The Significator also contains previous incarnation biases with which to meet these new experiences. These are biases he had developed in previous lifetimes, which were seen to be good qualities for the soul, for the spiritual path.
I am again through no free will of my own just data taking this a step further. There are lots of studies now about microdosing psilocybin in minute(I'm doing 1/35th a normal dose several days a week) amounts just enough to flatten out or make less dominant the regular patterns of the mind so new ways of thinking, behaving, reacting are opened up. https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/...psilocybin I have had startling results so perhaps my individuated will is a bit more free with this unusual opportunity yet still, all chosen paths will be chosen because of the data that came before and shaped this choice maker's biases. Only ingrained habit will be subdued. Kinda amazing still.
(10-31-2019, 08:52 AM)Nau7ik Wrote: I do like how you frame free will as individual will. As we refine our choice making ability, our Will becomes focused and clearer. That Will is uniquely personal to each individual. I also believe that we will find down the line that our True Will is congruent with the Creator’s Will.100% to me this solidifies even more firmly we are all one, we are all portions of the creator,(it does still allow for journey of the individuated souls) and like you said becoming conscious and through previous bias we can start to help shape creation we really do become conscious creators. Yet to be free-ish we have to realize no-one is really free. It seems the more we realize we are not free the more potential we have to steer our will accurately by determining what will steer our future self where we (through data in data out) wish to go.
I hope that didn't sound argumentative. I enjoyed your post, I just sort of see the two can both be at the same time if expanded a bit.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge.