11-03-2012, 04:30 PM
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11-04-2012, 09:05 AM
11-04-2012, 09:14 AM
(11-04-2012, 09:05 AM)Confused Wrote: Elyn Saks: A tale of mental illness -- from the inside Read the "Asks for us to treat people with mental illness.... " blah at the beginning and decided not to watch. Dont need people telling me "i'm ill" and need to be "treated a specific way" If you want to treat me at all, talk to me face to face. Dont hide behind your inability to accept how i view the world and label yourself the moral authority that "saves" people. People like that are the worst, the "mental health" "proffesionals". These people who go on crusades trying to say how other people should be treated, especially because in this Ted interview persons opinion, in the start in the summary itself, is that its a "mental illness" i'm sure she'll pay some lipservice to it not being that. But how about she walks into that interview and says "us mentally ill people need to learn how to treat you normals in a specific way because your brains are at the level of primates and you are unable to comprehend the multidimensional nature of reality, let alone the multi density nature of reality and your small mind projects thoughts of inadequacy on your patients and leads them to believe that they are "ill" and you are "healthy" you ****** vampires" Thats all i'll say about that last part. If you want something that is not geared towards "oh you be so ill we need to heal you": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qK6U0ZisDYk At least this has SOME hope of leading you down the right path (and it isnt the one where you think you're sick and need to be treated in a specific way by "others") I'd say to the woman in the ted link, drop the meds, drop the charade and spend some time alone thinking of what you logically must be, form a theory about it, test that theory by asking for confirmation of it, if confirmation is present, come to a full stop and start from the beginning and analyze the world around you anew from scratch. You made an error somewhere and if you try to hold onto the reality that has that error in it (assumption about your need for others to treat you "in a certain way" for you to "be happy" and "content" with "schizhoprhenia" in a universe where the is only "one person") you'll not be able to get "better" at "health" Anyway. Mass Effect 3 has a nice good dialogue about these "Law of One" related concepts and how the harvest in their cycle came about. Anyway. Have fun. And i'm sure its a great video that you linked but i take it as a point of discernment not to watch people talk to me about how i need to change to confirm to their theory about the workings of the planes of reality where we are. I find my own confirmations. Sci-Fi seems like a good way (11-04-2012, 09:14 AM)Cyan Wrote: I'd say to the woman in the ted link, drop the meds... Hi, Cyan, the lady was a mentally ill person herself. She talks as someone from the inside, someone who plumbed the depths of Schizophrenia herself. She goes on to say how if she had continued down the path of the difficult journey of mental illness, she could have either landed in prison or on the streets. That is why the title contains 'from the inside'.
11-04-2012, 09:55 AM
"mental illness"
Can you define this concept a bit
11-04-2012, 08:46 PM
Did you know people with schizophrenia in India had a better 'prognosis' (chance of cure) than in America? How could that be? Hmmmmmm...
My therapist (grumpy old man that I love) claimed he cured schizophrenia and he was shunned by the whole mental health community. The awesome part about his treatment is that the client does all the work him/herself. That kind of speaks to how we would not need therapists or drugs anymore if we know what to do.
11-05-2012, 02:21 AM
(11-04-2012, 08:46 PM)Confused Wrote:(11-04-2012, 09:55 AM)Cyan Wrote: "mental illness" I have been very close to getting it(treatment), but my condition is so specific, that even the establishment has to admit that they are wrong about it (Depersonalization and Derealization). Its kind of like psychotic people live in sand castles, Schicsophrenic people try to escape from sand/cloud castles, people with DP-DR observe sand castles and laugh. Its kind of in the spectrum of "dispersal of personality" type symptoms but because of the innate lack of fear due to the subdued fear response due to long term psychological abuse the psyche no longer runs away screaming when their hands fall of and the walls turn to laughing faces. It is something that i have a theory is related to malfunctioning in the "trauma" center associated with PTSD symptoms in combination with a kind of schizophrenia / channeling state + buttloads of good karma end up with a very VERY weird situation where you get the symptoms but instead of them "tortuing" you they always remind you that you are only torturing yourself and show you how its done but the psyche in a way lacks the energy and the ability to "jump" to the new set taht would be stable. This is primarily because of the "beaten dog" response, where the persons psyche is so badly abused that it simply decides to "lie down" and not move again, and eventually the other parts of the psyche take over and the personality sinks into kind of a internal void while still observing. So, DP-DR type people are usually able to do anything they want in the astral but not able to maintain any state in the astral while being still fully aware of their innate inability to hold onto their form. Leading theory is that it is some kind of endomorphine malfunction system in the brain. Good luck trying to figure it out without spirituality. When i watched my childhood friend get pushed into the system and I got pushed out I started to observe the changes that happen to him and I have come to the conclusion that I made the right choice in staying outside of the system and not getting "treatment". Most of my life is spent around people on between 1-4 medications and 2-6 diagnosis. I have yet to see it help any of them other than to give them the confidence to give the entire medical establishment the middle finger. Sometimes this happens so that they give the middle finger to everyone (such as myself occasionally) but it is a side effect. DP-DR is a feeling that creeps up on you. When you wake up you feel normal but after minutes, but usually under 30 minutes it feels like you slide back into a very comfortable sense of self loathing simply by thinking. It is like every thought where you think of ever explaining what you are doing or feeling is like a sharp spike that you hurl at your heart and eventually you rise above the pain and get to "normal". Anyway, cant cure being a "butthole" to yourself. Tl;Dr: *huggles* I know we all want help/to give help but its not in the medical establishment, I would LOVE for it to be there. I would love for us to have a really compassionate working medical system that is determined to help people. But not all 3d world can get this right.
Hey all, I am so bogged down with exams at this moment...
I will post up some of more interesting observations I have noticed while studying in my major (Medical Laboratory Science). So beautiful, It's a magnificent fractal universe we live in. To see the minds and interactions of subatomic structures affecting how our heart beats and how our brain functions. Remember that we are all connected... We are all one! There are no differences or disconnections. Everything present in this game is a mere illusion! Once you understand whats beneath this facade, your third eye and your heart opens. A fascinating universe within a universe we live in. Will come back as soon as my exams are done! P.S, an amazing quote my buddy said today.... "If a long snake ate its own tail... would he become twice as big or disappear?" Existence and infinite creation is beautiful. (11-04-2012, 09:39 PM)rie Wrote: The awesome part about his treatment is that the client does all the work him/herself. That's exactly what happened to me or is nearly happening in my case, rie. (11-05-2012, 02:21 AM)Cyan Wrote: But not all 3d world can get this right. Sigh, many times, it does seem to be a pitiless illusion. I have often been a monster myself to my close family and know that one can so harden the heart to not feel even the slightest of pity (leave alone empathy). Of course, I think it is connected to the trauma that I personally faced and endured, including a sense of societal ineptness or a sense of it that bogged me all my life. The 'evil' is not just outside, in my own observation. (11-05-2012, 07:34 AM)Xenos Wrote: "If a long snake ate its own tail... would he become twice as big or disappear?" That sounds exactly like a Zen koan!
11-07-2012, 10:33 AM
Whenever you post one of these lovely videos that speaks of the Milky Way, I wish there was a way for me to let you see what I have seen.
11-08-2012, 12:06 PM
Confused - it will most likely be a very, very long time before I am there again at night.
11-08-2012, 06:08 PM
Hmmmmmm, well to be honest, I've tried sending you a "memory photo" - the picture I have in my head of what I've seen out there.
11-10-2012, 05:15 AM
http://www.soldierhugs.com/wp-content/up...ines-1.pdf
I thought this was pretty interesting, it refers to the concept of time and Dewey Larson, whose work a couple of b4thers seem to be familiar with (11-10-2012, 05:15 AM)Meerie Wrote: http://www.soldierhugs.com/wp-content/up...ines-1.pdf Thank you so much, dear Meerie. Yeah, Larson was a big thing in the LOO, and Ra endorsed him too! So I cannot wait to dig into your material after having done with the video series that I am currently on. Thanks once again
11-10-2012, 06:13 PM
11-11-2012, 09:42 AM
11-11-2012, 09:54 AM
(11-11-2012, 09:42 AM)Confused Wrote: ... so, Mr Confused, after almost 2000 posts in this thread, do you understand the Mysterious Nature of Time anymore than when this thread started? - - in my mind, time is a more interesting quality in time/space rather than space/time ... that said, I have an unusually distorted experience of time in this density because of the shift work that I do ... I sleep irregularly and in chunks of unpredictable size. - - this has always been my favourite quote about TIME: "Time Is What Prevents Everything From Happening At Once.." - John Wheeler (1911-2008) "Space is what prevents everything from happening to me!"
11-11-2012, 10:05 AM
Gravity is what prevents me from somethign something. ;D
(11-11-2012, 09:54 AM)plenum Wrote: so, Mr Confused, after almost 2000 posts in this thread, do you understand the Mysterious Nature of Time anymore than when this thread started? Yes, in that Time is the great alchemist that the creation uses for its agenda of evolution and that Time is no respecter of persons. I also understood that living in the NOW, or attempting to do so, by itself brings its own spiritual fruits and that high wisdom is nothing but the simplest commonsense clearly articulated. |
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