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    02-08-2010, 06:38 PM
    I wanted to toss this idea out and see if it might be useful. I've been studying some marketing material and I think this business model might work really well here.

    For the audio sessions:
    Clean up and encode one session a week, starting with Ra session 1 and moving forward.

    Ask Carla and Jim, if he's interested, to give a five minute introduction to the session, and a ten minute wrap-up to the session. In these talks, explain a little bit more about the content covered in the session and the circumstances at the time. Highlight a couple of distinctions that people might not catch at first, or that have been frequently asked about the session. If the question is carried over from the previous session, give a little summary reminding people of the context. The tone of book V's explanations would be perfect for this.

    Make these available as a subscription service. Each subscriber always starts with session 1 and always gets the next session in series every week. (An autoresponder service such as aWeber can handle the technical logistics of this.)

    The session is delivered by email, in the form of a link to a specially coded file on the site with a random path and file name. For example, session 1 might be bring4th.org/dfd79879/jejfjef.mp3 while session 2 might be bring4th.org/379d97d7/f9urjkf.mp3. The email includes the link to that week's new session and subscribers would be on their honor to keep the links confidential. If the original session and the commentary is separate, then it would be f9urjkf.html which includes links to the introduction, the original session, and the concluding commentary, as three different mp3 files.

    There would only be a need to stay one week ahead of the earliest subscriber. This means loading up the first couple of sessions, and then processing the others as it's convenient given time and health constraints, etc. Each month, there would only be a need for four more sessions to get processed and uploaded into the subscription system. And that can happen any time at all in the month to ensure subscribers get the next month's content without interruption. No need to scramble to get a huge inventory built up before sales can begin.

    Charge a $10/month automatically recurring subscription through Paypal.
    In about two years, subscribers would receive the entire Ra material with the commentaries. At that point, they could stay on, if they like, for whatever other material was added next. Periodically include an email asking subscribers to go to a special web page with a survey form asking what they would most like to receive after the Ra series.

    Subscribers who stay on for the whole two years would wind up paying a total of almost $250, in easily affordable monthly installments, for a massive library of spiritual guidance and philosophy in audio format. Just a few hundred subscribers could entirely pay for all the costs of the venture, for physical upgrades to the LLR location, and for whatever helps and blesses Carla and Jim in their journeys.

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    02-09-2010, 02:58 AM
    This is my personal opinion (not as moderator) but I think it's a brilliant idea! It solves the problem of having to undertake the massive task of getting all the sessions done at the same time. It also keeps it affordable; yet, with enough subscribers, this project could really help fund L/L Research!

    The only thing that might cause undue stress on Carla's part might be the commentary. This would entail her re-reading the session and coming up with a commentary about that session. In addition, commentary would add bias and coloration...ie. distortion...so that could, in a sense, counteract the very appeal of the original sessions....their purity....which enable the seeker to seek their own interpretations and draw their own conclusions...thus practicing their own discernment.

    So, I think I would like the idea better without Carla's mandatory commentary. I think she could be free to offer commentary if she so chooses, but I wouldn't specify it as part of the product, to be delivered each month. I would suggest saying, "This month's session may or may not include commentary." which would leave it up to Carla's discernment.

    Other than that, I think it's a great idea!

    Following the conclusion of the Ra info, the Q'uo (et al) sessions could be continued...for an ongoing subscription.

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    02-09-2010, 11:55 AM
    I'm highly in favor of this. I would subscribe in a heartbeat.

    As for commentary, Monica makes a good point. But personally, I would really appreciate it. What we might do is follow Monica's suggestion and make them an option. The subscriber could set his or her preference at the Bring4th site and receive either an MP3 with commentary or one without.

    One other suggestion, since it is going to be a paid subscription, would be to have someone who is saavy with audio editing tools to edit out the speech gaps. This would make it more listenable and save disk space. A good example of this is the Q'uo session that Glen Pedelton edited for his 'Sons of the Law of One' podcast, here: http://ia350625.us.archive.org/0/items/T..._Times.mp3

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    02-09-2010, 08:30 PM
    (02-09-2010, 11:55 AM)Lavazza Wrote: The subscriber could set his or her preference at the Bring4th site and receive either an MP3 with commentary or one without.

    I was thinking of the added work for Carla. I propose that it be an option for her: If she feels so inclined to offer commentary, include it. But it would be a bonus when that occurs, rather than an expectation.

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    02-09-2010, 08:49 PM (This post was last modified: 02-09-2010, 08:53 PM by Questioner.)
    I'm glad to pass along the idea. For a while, I've had some non-spiritual information I've wanted to turn into a training course. I knew it would require a lot of material to guide people from an entry point to complete comfort and familiarity with the information. But I always got bogged down by the immense challenge of making the entire training book and materials before any money comes in. I was stalled out because I felt I had to find a financial backer to fund this whole research & writing time.

    As soon as I saw some articles about how other people are using this serialized strategy, I realized it's perfect for me. The complete outline is necessary at the start, but only the first month's courses need to be finalized before sales can begin. That's an amount of work I can start on my own, without needing a financial partner.

    Then I realized that this same technique could also be a solution to the "big backlog" problem of the audio project here.

    Gaps

    From some audio editing I've done, I found that editing out gaps is a lot easier than cleaning up speech. That part of the editing would likely be a lot simpler than the work to get the speech clear and intelligible in the first place. Even with a crossfade the gap can still be apparent, but it might be less distracting than long pauses.

    Commentary

    With what I need to cover in the courses I want to create, I'll need to include some third party material and add my own commentary about which parts are obsolete. Now that I think more about it, that really doesn't apply to Ra since the focus was on eternal concepts.

    For the commentary, I didn't really envision a whole lot of work to create deep, penetrating insights. I was thinking more about the kind of running commentaries that come with some movies now. The director might say "There's a funny story about shooting these scene, it's an Italian restaurant in the movie but really this place makes the best burritos on the Westside..." and the actor will chime in "you aren't going to tell them about the cinematographer's troubles with beans, are you?..."

    Maybe not that casual, but more of an informal conversation. Maybe Monica could ask, "So we have session 1 through 4 here, let's look at how this all started with Don's search for UFO's and the Esmerelda book..." and conduct an hour's chat. The chat hour could them be sliced up into four 15 minute commentaries, or just left intact as a bonus session downloadable after sessions 1 through 4. The idea is that would it provide a little bit of extra context, without being arduous to assemble.

    Absolutely this is all meant to be suggestions for discussion and consideration. If it's better for any added commentary to be a surprise bonus now and then, that would work too.

    It could also be that the original sessions offer more than enough value, without any extras. And as Monica points out, it could be more valuable to let people work through their own conclusions, using Carla's other books and the forums to help them solve the puzzles, rather than being told how to think in a commentary.

    The more I think about it, the more I realize that a spoken commentary is really redundant with the massive work Carla's already done to provide book-length explanations. So it could be thrown in if it's convenient and fun, and otherwise skipped.

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    02-09-2010, 08:55 PM
    (02-09-2010, 08:30 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: I was thinking of the added work for Carla. I propose that it be an option for her: If she feels so inclined to offer commentary, include it. But it would be a bonus when that occurs, rather than an expectation.

    Yes, absolutely. I only intended that my suggestions be used under the pretext of her interest in doing it at all.

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    02-10-2010, 01:15 PM
    By the way, is there a time line in place for the making available of these audio recordings? I'm really looking forward to it. Smile

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    02-10-2010, 07:17 PM
    it is an excellent idea BigSmile
    i think that putting some of the information in some of the sessions would be very useful - particularly reminding people, where relevant, of the time period in which these sessions took place and explaining the more personal material that was covered in book 5

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    05-22-2010, 05:49 AM (This post was last modified: 05-22-2010, 05:54 AM by Bring4th_Steve.)
    Sorry I am responding so late to this...

    I don't think it will be possible for there to be any commentaries to join each audio segment. The audio work involved and the demand on Carla might be too much for her to commit to at this moment. That is not to say that she may choose to isolate a few special sessions upon request.

    The audio project is being processed by me at this time. The audio is in fairly rough shape since it was recorded on analog tape and contains a lot of the artifacting and hissing that our old tape technology is so well-known for. We have purchased a sound editing tool which has the ability to sample the tape noise, and then use phase-cancellation to suppress the noise while leaving Carla's voice intact. While it's not a miracle cure, it is a remarkable improvement over the raw data. We then normalize the sound, and compress it so that it sounds smooth. This is just a routine process of "wetting" the dry/raw sound, as they say!

    As the sessions are cleaned up and re-encoded, we will post them to the site as they become completed. This is something that should begin taking shape during the next few weeks, and there will be an announcement.

    I will mention this thread to Gary when I talk to him next, and I will request that these ideas are brought up to Carla and Jim for their consideration! :-)

    Thanks for the input!
    Steve

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    06-04-2010, 09:21 PM (This post was last modified: 06-04-2010, 09:21 PM by unity100.)
    Extensive monetization and entanglement with the negative oriented economic system of this society may harm spiritual energies in various levels, and also be detrimental to the energy the channeling seeks to deliver. It is paramount that the message is delivered with maximum purity of sharing, within the technical limitations of this societal structure.

    Moreover, there is no time left, and there is no need for more resources since a while ago.

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    06-05-2010, 11:19 AM (This post was last modified: 06-05-2010, 11:32 AM by Richard.)
    (06-04-2010, 09:21 PM)unity100 Wrote: Extensive monetization and entanglement with the negative oriented economic system of this society may harm spiritual energies in various levels, and also be detrimental to the energy the channeling seeks to deliver. It is paramount that the message is delivered with maximum purity of sharing, within the technical limitations of this societal structure.

    Moreover, there is no time left, and there is no need for more resources since a while ago.

    Raining on someone's parade again Unity? Is it possible for you to actually participate in any type of discussion without thoughtlessly trampling on the thoughts and/or ideas of others to insert your worldview over everyone's beliefs? Talk about ego.

    I think its a great idea folks. I also think we are not under any less of a timetable that we normally are. The shift is/will be gradual over a few hundred years. The shift is now...and we all have our parts to play.

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    06-05-2010, 11:27 AM (This post was last modified: 06-05-2010, 11:28 AM by unity100.)
    (06-05-2010, 11:19 AM)Richard Wrote: Raining on someone's parade again Unity? Is it possible for you to actually participate in any type of discussion without thoughtlessly trampling on the thoughts and/or ideas of others?

    Talk about ego.

    its not my problem if my thoughts and ideas do not overlap and coincide with your beliefs and ideas. im giving causes, reasons and logic strains of causalization for what argument im put out. if you consider this ego, then its your problem.

    monetization, commercialization have been the demise of many a valid channels and their messages.

    considering how delicate the Ra contact was to get the message out, and how unbelievably delicate and pure an environment and mindset was required - especially understanding and judging from the events from the book v -, it becomes easily concludeable that getting entangled with the negative oriented economy of this world would only harm the message more.

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    06-05-2010, 07:45 PM
    Unity100 is "spot on". Turning LLResearch into a commercial enterprise would open a Pandora's Box.

    If you want commentary on any channelings, I suggest you attend Homecoming, and direct specific questions to Carla or Jim.

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    06-06-2010, 03:03 AM
    Actually this passes valid for any kind of positive work, channeling. any kind of positive work really.

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    06-06-2010, 10:10 AM
    I believe these topics have been explored before, although I am at a loss to produce the links to the other threads / posts. At any rate I would not become overly concerned about the Ra audio sessions being sold by L/L Research. L/L is an established charity, it is not a business as such. Commercialization is not the intended goal of this project. I am confident it is being done with the best of intentions, and I expect only the best results. I think it's also worth reminding that The Law of One has already been made for sale many long years ago, in the form of paperback books (which I am very happy is the case- I would hate to have to attempt reading all five volumes on my computer monitor!). In this context, I do not understand where the concern about LLR's corruption is coming from, although I admit I may have missed something?

    Maybe this gets back to the idea that money is somehow of itself an evil. In my opinion, this is just an easy way out. The people behind the money (in whatever setting) make it in to what it is, be that good or bad. It is simply a tool, just as language is a tool. You can use it how you wish. Depending on your particular bend, that may mean you produce poetry and expressions of love, or vile slurs and expressions of hatred. Or anything in between. Sort of goes back to the theme of third density, polarities. The founders of LLR have been true to one polarity, the right hand STO path. I am not concerned about how LLR would handle additional income. They're more apt make poetry, wouldn't we all agree?

    Sending all a unifying burst of love and light,
    L.

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    06-06-2010, 10:38 AM
    (06-06-2010, 10:10 AM)Lavazza Wrote: In this context, I do not understand where the concern about LLR's corruption is coming from, although I admit I may have missed something?

    instead you have misread.

    two people including me expressed concern about the spiritual ramifications of increased commercialization. not, current 'corruption'.

    back in 1982, the only tool to publish something was publishing houses which sold for money. now, we have internet.

    Quote:Maybe this gets back to the idea that money is somehow of itself an evil. In my opinion, this is just an easy way out. The people behind the money (in whatever setting) make it in to what it is, be that good or bad. It is simply a tool, just as language is a tool. You can use it how you wish. Depending on your particular bend, that may mean you produce poetry and expressions of love, or vile slurs and expressions of hatred. Or anything in between. Sort of goes back to the theme of third density, polarities. The founders of LLR have been true to one polarity, the right hand STO path. I am not concerned about how LLR would handle additional income. They're more apt make poetry, wouldn't we all agree?

    Sending all a unifying burst of love and light,
    L.

    current economic system of the world is negative oriented. therefore, its tool is also 'evil' in a regard, especially when used for profit.

    philosophically, profiting, is fundamentally against positive polarity. actually, since everything goes positive starting early 6th, its against nature of existence - you cant expect to be positive, while accepting profits, which are surpluses that are paid to you in excess of the effort you have put into creating the service you are giving. if you add in the fact that what is paid to you will be something that is created by the effort of another individual, its activity, it becomes getting more than you give, ie, an inward, negative flow.

    the natural way to conduct life should be direct democracy, in which all entities gather and decide on a course of action, distribute tasks within themselves, and spend their effort to accomplish any mission. and the mission should always be being of benefit to everything around them.

    however it is hard to do that in this current social system. therefore, as far as i see, the best option remains to positive entities and groups becomes working from aim to aim, target to target, and spending effort to only acquire funds enough to meet the required expenses for the aim that was set. of course, ongoing natural maintenance expenses should always be accounted for. keeping a certain, modest, defined reserve of funds in case something unexpected happens is also wise, and would not harm anything, however it shouldnt just keep piling up.

    leaving aside the fact that anything sold for a price will make getting it harder for those who need it, and participating in the system perpetuates it more.

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    06-06-2010, 12:08 PM (This post was last modified: 06-06-2010, 12:11 PM by Monica.)
    (06-06-2010, 10:38 AM)unity100 Wrote: however it is hard to do that in this current social system. therefore, as far as i see, the best option remains to positive entities and groups becomes working from aim to aim, target to target, and spending effort to only acquire funds enough to meet the required expenses for the aim that was set. of course, ongoing natural maintenance expenses should always be accounted for. keeping a certain, modest, defined reserve of funds in case something unexpected happens is also wise, and would not harm anything, however it shouldnt just keep piling up.

    leaving aside the fact that anything sold for a price will make getting it harder for those who need it, and participating in the system perpetuates it more.

    How, then, do you propose that people earn a living in the present system?

    Those same people must still eat and pay the bills. Where does that income come from? Chances are, that income is from a job that they probably don't like, supporting an industry that is injurious to other people and Earth.

    I used to work for a corporation that I believed was unethical. I felt very conflicted, but I had to pay my bills. I eventually left that job and now own my own business and earn a profit. But my product truly helps people. It is a joy to offer it to others, and others accept it with joy and gratitude. The transfer of funds is an energy exchange, done so willingly. I feel much happier now, and in alignment with my spiritual values.

    Those at L/L Research must pay their bills too. They offer most of their works for free. But they must cover their costs. I agree that information as spiritually valuable as the Law of One should always be available for free to the sincere seeker. And it is! But there's nothing wrong with them offering additional resources, that some of us might willingly and joyfully choose to purchase.

    Most average people have jobs that have nothing to do with their vision or values. They just do it to pay the bills. Why not participate in work that is beneficial, that we can believe in, rather than working just for a paycheck? I envision a time when we could all earn a living by doing something that is helpful, rather than something that is harmful. We aren't all involved in work that is in the same league as channeling the Law of One, but each of us has our own important work to do, and it has value too.

    I think the best way to change the present economic system is to become involved with earning a living by doing something that is fulfilling, rather than refusing to participate in the system. I would rather change the system from the inside out.

    For example, if a person isn't comfortable working for an oil company, they might consider pursuing a job working with alternative, green energy. Or a medical professional not comfortable with the pharmaceutical industry might consider looking into alternative healing methods. There is always a positive alternative to any negative job.

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    06-06-2010, 03:49 PM
    (06-06-2010, 12:08 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: How, then, do you propose that people earn a living in the present system?

    Those same people must still eat and pay the bills. Where does that income come from? Chances are, that income is from a job that they probably don't like, supporting an industry that is injurious to other people and Earth.

    notice that how i accounted for the minimum expenses for living, or maintenance of an organization in what i said. not working in an unethical job, definitely goes without saying. so, in regard to what you said above, and the parallel remarks you have made under that (i didnt quote all) ;

    im also making a living by working. im also outside the system as much as i can be. i actually never went into the system, back in college i said to my classmates 'there has to be another way'.

    oddly each month i end up coming up precisely even with my bills and expenses. even if i try hard, even if i try less. more jobs come up if i need, i instinctively do not work if i am going to make excess money. i think something inside and outside me arranges these to be so. i would love to have some small cash reserve for security myself, however this, somehow doesnt happen.

    Quote:I think the best way to change the present economic system is to become involved with earning a living by doing something that is fulfilling, rather than refusing to participate in the system. I would rather change the system from the inside out.

    i don think that will work, due to numerous reasons. i will count some of the reasons i see below, and will say the most important reason of all last.

    firstly, working within the system in a corporation reinforces the overlords. if you work for a corporation, nomatter what kind of company or work that is, it makes profits, becomes stronger, and pays money to people who are not working in that company in practice at all, as shareholders. basically, these people own the majority of the value generated.

    - i said people, as if there were many people, despite the fact that most megacorporations and their downline corporations are owned by some small percent of individuals. for example in usa 7% top of the society gets 72% of the income, and wealth, and 80% of the bottom gets only 15%. (2007 stats i believe). this makes it almost feudal, but im not going to expand on that. ill just assume there are many shareholders that amount to a big number -

    so therefore, there is a system which gives ownership and rule of the activity organizations to certain individuals, and makes the others work for some designated, certain amount, without giving those who actually work, their fair share of profit. this is philosophically wrong from the start, and actually outlines a mechanism of master-slave relationship.

    and even simpler than that, the value generated becomes power of the corporation, and then this is either transferred to the higher corporations in the overlordship network (the ones which hold the corporation you work in as subsidiary) and enforces that overlordship network. and then the conglomerate at the top may be using the added power that everyone generates and gives them, to do innumerable things through its subsidiaries, most of which you may or may not agree with, ethically and morally.

    secondly, working within the system reinforces the system. for example, i run a small business, work in spiritually justified, and ethical things, maybe even propagate green industry. however, all the transactions and activities we make in the current system reinforces it. you pay for goods and services of numerous other corporations and organizations in the process, reinforcing them, and whichever corporation is on their higher levels of hierarchy. the transport company, the credit card processing company, eventually, visa, and the banks through credit cards you processed (all are their resellers in a sense), and eventually major bank controllers. all the power accumulates in the top, in a minority, and then these few people use that power to propagate their interests at the expense of majority, and propagate and reinforce the existing system.

    just take the hippie wave in 1960s for example. they tried many different ways, some went out of the grid completely, some turned to the grid, some worked within the system, tried to reform it, did political activism, brought numerous laws and regulations to fix things, and even ushered in computer and internet era.

    what's happening now ? the powers who already hold the power are trying to get everything into their own hands, even attacking the internet in the process. (acta, anti net neutrality moves) because it is way too dangerous for them. see, here we are, many 'heretics' talking about how wrong is the system and what else can be, and, gosh, finding alternate ways to live our lives other than being obliged to work in one of their corporations.

    it is my impression that, you can not change a system which has gone a certain level into negative, by participation. it would just provide a brief respite, as long as people who are trying to change things are about, and pushing forth, and it would deteriorate into the control scheme again.

    just consider how things were, how free ideas and how modern the outlook was back in between 1720-1825. this was probably the first great wave of wanderers Ra was talking about. (they actually named jefferson, and franklin from among them). most of the modern ideals and norms were established in that era.

    what happened after that wave ? conservatism, backward regression, tight control came over entire europe in between 1825-1860s, even america went so backward that they even went to the point of almost villifying thomas paine, probably another wanderer who were pushing for more spiritual and intellectual independence of individual souls from establishments.

    then again another push, this time from the frontiers of science, social aspects of life. anti-slavery movements, scientific progress and movements. observe how free science was then, and how freely ideas and innovations were traded. then what happened ? establishment, the already negative system started claiming ownership of ideas and thoughts through various machinations - patents, copyright. and science and its innovations increasingly got centralized, came under control of whomever was holding the power. today it has come to such a point that in america, private interests are going to the extent of attempting to patent basical logical processes and arguments. and some, are granted.

    then another wave of wanderers came in force and set up the 60s movements. love, peace, sharing, environment and all that. it went good for a while, and then what happened ? the established system slowed it down, resisted it, and villified it through the media they were controlling, to the extent that they made 1980s a 'material age'. granted, some of the ideals that the wanderers were trying to place stuck. however, most of those who would actually change things fundamentally were averted.

    wave after wave of wanderers came. now, if we remember what Ra said, there is a new, huge wave of wanderers coming in, their numbers being 65 million circa 1980-82. the number probably went larger and larger and heaven knows how many are there now.

    we are here today. we can push, try hard, within the system, and make some stuff change. and make some stuff work better.

    but, as soon as we are out of this planet, or our numbers are decreased due to those who leave this planet, the system, being the negative system it is, would revert itself back to whatever those in power want it to be, in any way possible and usable at that point in time. history, testifies as such.

    from a purely wisdom standpoint - you cant build a good house on a faulty foundation. it eventually breaks down, or, requires very high maintenance. it cant stand on its own.

    it required wave after wave from wanderers to bring this society to this point, technologically and humane-wise to this point. its very high maintenance, it has been unwise. repetition of past mistakes will just perpetuate the pattern.

    that may not be a consideration, since the harvest is so close. but still, it is not certain how the switch will happen. it is highly possible that due to continuous and strong 4d energies flowing in, negativity will increasingly go more extreme, make itself known, and so people will be able to let go, refuse and choose, but its also possible that in their extremity, radicalizing segments of the society commit in irrational stuff, atrocities and whatnot.

    then again its not impossible that polarity switches in higher densities happen. just remember the two wanderers Ra gives examples, from their own 3d time. but i dont think this is likely, since there would be those who are guarding this planet by then, i presume.

    in either case, it comes up unwise to perpetuate a negative system by trying to change it from within the inside.

    third, had this system continued, if a harvest wasnt going to happen, the funds and finances you amass today, could be used for any reason tomorrow, when inherited. after all it would belong to whomever inherits it, or controls it. if, any negative inclined entity got ahold of it, it would easily use it for its own ends. or, if it grew big enough and you werent there to hold the vision, outside negative sources would eventually try to control it through various means. so even if you amassed a fortune and used it for good, in 3th generation you could easily see that fortune being used for selfish agendas. therefore, you would just perpetuate the system more, even in this regard.

    ........................

    fourth, and most importantly, its about the spiritual implications for the one who is participating in it.

    if you just remember what Ra says about how at least 51% is required from passing from 3 to 4th, minimum, and how the polarity reaches harmoniously 95% (if i remember right) during passage from 4 to 5th (not a requirement though), and how, after some point in 7th density (if im remember the exact density right) the entity beings to always use internal resources and doesnt seek anything from external sources, and how after a point entity entirely leaves any identity it has, and goes back to infinite intelligence, the picture becomes clear.

    you need to shine out 51% from 4 to 5, and when you near towards the 8th, you need to almost become a small sun yourself, shining out everything you have to outside.

    since everything would also mean your activities, any activity that actually takes anything from outside becomes a negative polarity influx, a percentage that needs to be eventually cleared.

    in a metaphysical sense, taking more than you need will always be a negative act. the 4d graduate holds, blocks, keeps 49% of the energy that shines through it, 4d graduate keeps 5%, it goes lower and lower. so, if one keeps a profit, and keeps piling up money, it is inevitable that their polarity would be affected. after all, any action has metaphysical consequences, in time/space. just remember how important even intent is.

    this is especially important for wanderers. a 4d graduate may be 51% positive polarity, and this may be ok for him/her/it. in a sense, a 4d graduate is a spiritual child anyway - 3d today, 4d tomorrow. (compared to cosmic time). but, for a wanderer of higher densities, losing polarity through these means could be damaging.

    of course, parameters can involve the particular life plan of a wanderer, its energy patterns this and that, but, as a thumb rule and precaution, i believe it would be good for wanderers to refrain from losing polarity.

    ....................

    so in that regard, my view is that, people who are of positive intent should give as much as they can without being unwise and jeopardizing themselves, should work outside the system as much as possible, should work only as much as they, their family, dependents, group need, keeping a small reserve of emergency savings (can differ according to situation tho - if you got people to care, this would require more), and only work to acquire more to pursue certain positive goals and aims.

    and the goals and aims to be pursued, the projects, should be carefully vetted, analyzed and assured in regard to their positive intent, service intent, clearly outlined, and, equally importantly, declared before committing. thiese would accomplish two things :

    first, it would prevent any kind of polarity loss - because the intent is assuredly positive, and approved by one's (and groups') higher self, inner planes, and spiritual circles, it would be an acceptable goal to work for. and since, no cash, no energy (money, cash as a symbolism of red ray energy, activity) is being held, that would not have any metaphysical analogies of holding back energy. ie - you will be channeling the red energy (money) that comes into an active, declared and positive effort, as soon as it comes.

    second, because the aim, project, intent is vetted, inspired, and decided on by you, your group, your inner self, your spiritual circles (of you all), it would create a momentum in time/space, and would set into motion events that would help realization of the project, aim, and make it easier. (any thought, is a creation, even to the extent of Ra building the pyramid in time/space, as thought construct first).

    .....

    in short, 'those damn hippies were right' ...

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    11-09-2010, 09:27 PM
    (02-08-2010, 06:38 PM)Questioner Wrote: Ask Carla and Jim, if he's interested, to give a five minute introduction to the session, and a ten minute wrap-up to the session. In these talks, explain a little bit more about the content covered in the session and the circumstances at the time. Highlight a couple of distinctions that people might not catch at first, or that have been frequently asked about the session. If the question is carried over from the previous session, give a little summary reminding people of the context. The tone of book V's explanations would be perfect for this.

    Dear Questioner,

    Wanted firstly to thank you for taking the time to make the propositions in the beginning post of this thread for the benefit of L/L Research and its readers. Secondly, I wanted to let you know that, at Steve's prompting, I ran the suggestion above by Carla and Jim who both thought it a good idea!

    Beginning sometime in December, we will record Jim and Carla offering commentary on each session, either on the content of the session itself or of their memories of the session, or both. We won't try to do it within time constraints. We'll append whatever they have to say on each session to the beginning of each Ra contact audio file. It will be a fantastic end product, thank you so much for the suggestion! I don't think it would have occurred to us otherwise.

    Love/Light, GLB

    Explanation by the tongue makes most things clear, but love unexplained is clearer. - Rumi

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