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    #31
    11-27-2013, 04:17 PM (This post was last modified: 11-27-2013, 04:21 PM by godwide_void.)
    BrownEye Wrote:Maybe it is simply the intent behind the creation of the book, and the fact that only those that are ready to learn what is within will find those answers. In my own learning periods I found that publicizing certain concepts on a public forum that many who are not ready would randomly read, seemed to be an infringement on certain levels. I could private message the info, but when posted publicly the harassment attempts would begin.

    If one commits their endeavors to the Almighty, then the path ahead will typically venture into more tranquil and scenic routes. If arrogance, validation or the desire to flaunt ones supposed prowess to others in an attempt to intimidate or with the prejudice that others are "beneath you" are the predominant motivayors, and thus only you may show the way, dismissing the paths and peculiarities of others, rather than simply seeking to share knowledge for the betterment and empowerment of others, then difficulties will surely manifest which will obstruct effective fruition.

    What certain concepts would you personally consider taboo or "unfit" for conceptual assimilation and exposure for others? Knowledge is not the exclusive right of a select few, for the template sustaining all knowledge and the scavenger of said knowledge are congruent. Cosmic laws are also set into place which ensure data and experiences vibrationally incompatible with a being or are at risk of being dangerously infringing or unnerving due to inadequate preparation or discipline will not manifest in the field of said being so as to avoid extreme infringement or imposition. Infractions of lesser severities do occur, of course, but these are engineered to occur as catalyst, thus some semblance of readiness or capacity to subsequently integrate were inherent.
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    #32
    11-27-2013, 04:25 PM
    Where is the faith in magical workings wen you are willing and desiring certain outcomes. Were's the belief that you will have all you need exactly when you need it?. I think most of us are inspired by the Ra Material and other channeled texts to want to contribute to society in a very physical way, like a channeled text. I think you should really step back and just be. Enjoy life we are all here to learn and to contribute how? I dunno I do wonder almost everyday but in that wonder there is mystery. There is the unknown and this for me is the beauty of life. It's not about knowing the ins and outs its about integrating concepts and allowing yourself to be most uninhibited, undistroted version of yourself you can be.

    Lots of love man I really wish I could help in a greater way than words.
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    11-27-2013, 05:10 PM (This post was last modified: 11-27-2013, 05:34 PM by BrownEye.)
    (11-27-2013, 04:17 PM)godwide_void Wrote: What certain concepts would you personally consider taboo or "unfit" for conceptual assimilation and exposure for others?

    I ran into a lot of attention when posting about 'Orion' tactics/mechanics. A professional contacted me stating that if I do not find out what I did I would become a 'target of priority', which made me track every link I had made that 'pinged' the lower astral. I went through and deleted the posts. All of the attention vanished accordingly.

    The second time I posted that sort of material I received the same attention. I decided it was up to the individuals to seek to understand the answers that have already been given in the material, which coincides with the material from other sources. I simply tried to make the concepts much more simple and understandable, and direct.

    I guess the idea here is not to 'fight' the interference at face value, but to come to understand 'why' there is interference.

    I think by finding out specific the reasons it becomes possible to streamline intent and what is attempted. "Honing".
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    #34
    11-27-2013, 10:58 PM
    (11-27-2013, 05:10 PM)BrownEye Wrote:
    (11-27-2013, 04:17 PM)godwide_void Wrote: What certain concepts would you personally consider taboo or "unfit" for conceptual assimilation and exposure for others?

    I ran into a lot of attention when posting about 'Orion' tactics/mechanics. A professional contacted me stating that if I do not find out what I did I would become a 'target of priority', which made me track every link I had made that 'pinged' the lower astral. I went through and deleted the posts. All of the attention vanished accordingly.

    The second time I posted that sort of material I received the same attention. I decided it was up to the individuals to seek to understand the answers that have already been given in the material, which coincides with the material from other sources. I simply tried to make the concepts much more simple and understandable, and direct.

    I guess the idea here is not to 'fight' the interference at face value, but to come to understand 'why' there is interference.

    I think by finding out specific the reasons it becomes possible to streamline intent and what is attempted. "Honing".

    Interference and sabotage can only impact one to the extent that one allows themselves to be vulnerable to such things. When you drew the attention of negative corporeal entities, they were most likely able to exploit and draw upon your unsettled and nervous disposition and notion that outside parties would target you if you initiated such and such actions; in your case it was revealing of Orion methodologies, in Adonai One's case it is his self-proclamation of an exalted status coupled with his desire to manifest a work which would presumably serve to further undermine the plots of the wicked.

    Indeed, combating interference pales in comparison when one discovers the root of the symptoms. And understanding not only the reasons for the interference, but being intimately cognizant of precursory elements will serve to neutralize attempts at sabotage before they are even enacted. I personally hope that both you and Adonai One are able to resume your endeavors without the accompanying nuisances of negative vandalizing.
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    11-28-2013, 12:18 AM
    An aside - Nice to see you posting again, Thiago. Smile
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    #36
    11-28-2013, 06:45 AM
    (11-27-2013, 10:58 PM)godwide_void Wrote:
    Interference and sabotage can only impact one to the extent that one allows themselves to be vulnerable to such things.
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    11-28-2013, 07:30 AM (This post was last modified: 11-28-2013, 07:33 AM by Adonai One.)
    There are entities that could disintegrate the soul of a vulnerable entity given the opportunity. There are cases in this world where there is no mercy. There are times when there is no justice and bad things happen to good people.


    The local entities that are supporting me are literally overpowered. This power is likely not local.

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-world_hypothesis

    The book I wish to write takes philosophy to its core elements and breaks the archetypes into great detail. Before my intuition was put out of whack, I saw the probabilities of this work being successful. I will continue to keep this probability at a certainty.

    Apparently this material will be polarizing in the right hands. I could be insane but the crazy s*** happening in my home right now is poiting to something else.

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    11-28-2013, 09:44 AM
    love/light, light/love
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    11-28-2013, 12:37 PM
    Disclaimer: Adonai One is actually a really sweet and funny guy, the cutest little thing I've ever had the pleasure to lay my eyes on. When he sleeps he looks like a puppy. Whenever he writes about spirituality online however he puts his super-stern-face mask on. It always perplexes me.

    Quote:There are entities that could disintegrate the soul of a vulnerable entity given the opportunity. There are cases in this world where there is no mercy. There are times when there is no justice and bad things happen to good people.

    Justice and fairness do not apply when it comes to growth and facing catalyst. One attracts what they desire or what they fear most through focus. One also faces catalysts which they are (usually) able to handle, sometimes even gracefully, if they choose to align with their higher self, regardless of the direction they take in life. There are difficulties on our path at times and what will define how we come out of those experiences is our purity of heart. Our actions are only the manifestation of our intents. It takes courage and willingness to grow. It's an admirable path we chose and it is no wonder we are supported. Finally, I will add there is no use fighting with the hurdle itself; much more is gained from finding solutions in order to strive forward.
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    #40
    11-28-2013, 01:10 PM
    (11-28-2013, 12:37 PM)vervex Wrote: Disclaimer: Adonai One is actually a really sweet and funny guy, the cutest little thing I've ever had the pleasure to lay my eyes on. When he sleeps he looks like a puppy. Whenever he writes about spirituality online however he puts his super-stern-face mask on. It always perplexes me.

    I do the same thing. It's simply because he is exercising control to make sure that what he presents to the world is what he thinks the world wants from him, when in truth he wants to express himself without fear of societal backlash.

    Everyone wants to play, it's only our attempts to please societal constructs that keep us from being free.
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    11-28-2013, 03:37 PM
    I've been attacked before. It wasn't a pleasant experience but it was entirely necessary.

    I went to a festival, did drugs all night, raged hard. Was young, wild, and free...yada yada. Was selfless the entire time until my mind turned into just about mush. Around sunrise, I manipulated a naive necromancer (he claimed to be one) to purchase me LSD. He did, with my promises of being with him and "guiding" him through his first trip. My intentions were to ditch him immediately.

    Once it was bought, and taken, I hung out with him for a while, and continued to ditch him after saying I'd meet up with him later (lie)

    An hour or so goes by as I hang out with these other people that just arrived. Being friendly and what not, I bid them good bye as I attempted to take a nap (my body was very sore)
    I got into my car, brought the seat back, and thought about how smooth I was. How everyone at the festival thought I was SOOO funny and so cool. How I was in the "IN" crowd and what not.

    Just like you say, adonai one, it starts in the back of the neck.
    I felt something crawling inside of my spine. Like a firey snake.
    I thought it was a muscle kink at first, so I cracked my neck to self adjust to attempt to relieve the pain. It only got worse.
    I thought taking a walk would help, it didn't. I kept trying to crack my neck and my back to relieve the pain...it didn't work. I tried having the festival call an ambulance but they claimed they would get shut down and it wasn't worth it.
    So they sent me on my way, alone, tripping face, with some sort of orion crusader riding my spine like a roller coaster.
    At one point it traveled all the way down to the base of my spine, and came all the way back up. Creating kinks, knots, etc...The visuals I was seeing were quite gruesome, and the deep, dark, cynical voice I was hearing went "Look at my new toy, guys...look who decided to fall off the wagon. Boy I am going to rock your spine till it breaks"

    I had totally lost control. I kept trying to adjust my neck, and back compulsively. I had lost nearly all control. It was excruciating, terrifying, and downright traumatizing. I felt a POP in my neck (which was the climax of the pain) and decided to lay down in the woods and meditate till the LSD wore off.

    The doctor and chiropractor said I've torn several ligaments in my neck...which still cause me pain. This was on june 28th, of this year.

    I prayed, I cried, I meditated, I did everything..
    When the entity finally left, he also left me with catalyst. I've learned more from that experience than many, many others. It also gave my blue and yellow chakra a "work out" in a sense.

    I thought I was going to die that day, but in a way I was reborn If you open yourself up to that type of "attack"...it will happen. It will test you, and the game will get way more intense and you won't even realize what is at stake. That test is going to suck, and its best if you avoid it at all costs. But in certain circumstances, (thank god like mine), it will grow you.

    I don't deny the fact that there is true long time possession going on out there..I think that is an attack of different nature.

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    11-28-2013, 03:52 PM
    I do not think there are "good people" and "bad people", there is only the geometry of desires between individuals. Some are parallel, others are perpendicular, each angle of associating creating a different kind of spin and energetic interaction.

    I also do not believe that "good people" have never done anything throughout their existence to create karma, so examining "fairness" through the lense of only a singular life will likely yield the appearance of injustice. However, not every occurrence stems merely from energy patterns developed in this life, but through patterns and habits developed throughout time.

    In this case, I think the "blame game" is what becomes the cycle of abuse which causes suffering to arise from "bad experiences". Cruelty, arrogance, vengeance, sadism, etc, all of these things stem from pain or suffering within the individual. Yes, some people "like" that fact, and so feed it.

    My point here is that the whole moral argument is in some capacity or other merely a "blame game". I think it is important to remember, however, that many such games are played throughout life and it is often quite difficult to avoid.

    Philosophy is dead without practice and engagement. The mind can conjecture endlessly but that does not mean the actions of the body will follow. Morals are especially as such. One can discuss or think about the concept of morals or the lack thereof forever, but what really counts is how one chooses to live their life.

    I would also add that for every extreme example of a negative entity you may think of there will also be an equal and opposite positive example. For example, there are entities which can actually reintegrate a soul which has been disintegrated. There are also entities capable of protecting a soul from disintegrating.

    Just as there are cases of injustice, there are also cases of justice and instances where everything does work out evenly. In fact, imo, the greatest injustice would be the disallowance of injustice because free will means an individual can choose unjust actions. So, really, I think both justice and injustice exist and it is through that that justice as a spectrum exists in the universe as part of the choosing of entities. It may seem contradictory but I think justice in the universe is there through free will, which means that injustice can be chosen and that is just.

    That being said, there is ever and always the choice. It doesn't matter what you choose to label your actions, what is important is what you are actually doing and the interactions that stem from that. So, imo, there is nothing to fight, there is nothing to "be rid of", there is only the acceptance of choice, of free will, or not.
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    11-28-2013, 04:59 PM
    Maybe I would change saying that it doesn't matter what you choose to label things, as it does matter to you and also is part of determining your own way of identifying with the world, but I think it is also very important to look at your actual experience.
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    11-28-2013, 07:02 PM
    Also, all in my opinion! Aha
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    11-29-2013, 11:49 AM (This post was last modified: 11-29-2013, 12:34 PM by xise.)
    (11-28-2013, 01:10 PM)GentleReckoning Wrote:
    (11-28-2013, 12:37 PM)vervex Wrote: Disclaimer: Adonai One is actually a really sweet and funny guy, the cutest little thing I've ever had the pleasure to lay my eyes on. When he sleeps he looks like a puppy. Whenever he writes about spirituality online however he puts his super-stern-face mask on. It always perplexes me.

    I do the same thing. It's simply because he is exercising control to make sure that what he presents to the world is what he thinks the world wants from him, when in truth he wants to express himself without fear of societal backlash.

    Everyone wants to play, it's only our attempts to please societal constructs that keep us from being free.

    I agree with what you are saying. I've definitely carefully chosen my words in the past due to these feelings; nowadays I care less.

    However, there are also other considerations at play. I for one believe my humor to be so dependent on tonality/inflection/body language that I don't really try to to be funny in my posts. Written text is a step removed emotionally from human to human contact and so some may choose to express the side of themselves they feel that will not be misunderstood. There are numerous times the mods had to get involved because a joke went astray in the written medium of online communication. So it's not inconceivable that some of us put our serious stern faces on when we interact here. '_' (Stern face!!)

    All the more reason why homecoming is so important!Smile

    With regards to the main topic, as others have said, I think its useful to see negative greetings as an opportunity to find chinks in your armor and balance those distortions. I often tell people that a great paradigm for evolution and balance is to view all causes of discomforting emotion as internal (regardless of whether true or not), and in that way one can begin to work on internal distortions without distraction and/or blame. I'm sure you'll lick these issues one way or another Adonai One - Good luck mate!
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    11-29-2013, 10:47 PM
    (11-28-2013, 07:30 AM)Adonai One Wrote: There are entities that could disintegrate the soul of a vulnerable entity given the opportunity.

    All paths inevitably ends well. Smile

    Ra 68.6 Wrote:Questioner: Could you tell me what the plan of the fifth-density negatively oriented entity was and how it would have accomplished it and what the results would have been if it had worked?

    Ra: I am Ra. The plan, which is on-going, was to take the mind/body/spirit complex while it was separated from its yellow body physical complex shell, to then place this mind/body/spirit complex within the negative portions of your time/space. The shell would then become that of the unknowing, unconscious entity and could be, shall we say, worked upon to cause malfunction which would end in coma and then in what you call the death of the body. At this point the higher self of the instrument would have the choice of leaving the mind/body/spirit complex in negative time/space or of allowing incarnation in space/time of equivalent vibration and polarity distortions. Thus this entity would become a negatively polarized entity without the advantage of native negative polarization. It would find a long path to the Creator under these circumstances although the path would inevitably end well.
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    11-30-2013, 04:01 AM
    Why do you think must be either insane or correct? It's quite an absolute that lol.

    Please be real careful about how many notions of a spiritual nature you base your relationship on.

    On another note, why is there the compulsion amongst so many people who find the LOO to write their own book based on the LOO? I mean, I've seen a fair few and it's usually just like "LoO for dummies" from which the author can reap that sweet validation and attention for making their incredible counterfeit knowledge and wisdom available to the public. This isn't aimed at anyone in particular it just fascinates me that the occurrence is so frequent.

    AdonaiOne, what is your book about? I'm genuinely curious, will it borrow significantly from the LOO? Will it regard the LOO as a flawless source of information?

    Last thing; isolated sensations in the body do not necessarily have a causal relationship with the rays.

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    11-30-2013, 07:06 AM (This post was last modified: 11-30-2013, 07:11 AM by Adonai One.)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Om_Namah_Shivaya

    This mantra has alleviated the attack for me. It came as a sudden inspiration to my fiancee and I took the random moment seriously as guidance.

    Sanskrit is very powerful it seems.

    Quote:Why do you think must be either insane or correct? It's quite an absolute that lol.

    Please be real careful about how many notions of a spiritual nature you base your relationship on.

    The feelings are all too lucid, well-timed and well-placed.

    Quote:On another note, why is there the compulsion amongst so many people who find the LOO to write their own book based on the LOO? I mean, I've seen a fair few and it's usually just like "LoO for dummies" from which the author can reap that sweet validation and attention for making their incredible counterfeit knowledge and wisdom available to the public. This isn't aimed at anyone in particular it just fascinates me that the occurrence is so frequent.
    There is no such thing as counterfeit knowledge and wisdom. The concept of property over information is a farce and a completely inane human concept that only cripples the species.

    Quote:AdonaiOne, what is your book about? I'm genuinely curious, will it borrow significantly from the LOO? Will it regard the LOO as a flawless source of information?
    A very detailed expansion of the archetypes, far revamped from the stuff I've posted on the forums. It will fully flesh out the archetypes and allow people to polarize and balance themselves using them. Anything coming from Ra's mouth is mostly without significant distortion. The archetypal interpretations of the questioners are significantly unpenetrating understatements.

    Quote:Last thing; isolated sensations in the body do not necessarily have a causal relationship with the rays.
    I have experience in dealing with metaphysical sensation. I know how to differentiate between metaphysical feeling and muscle pain.
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    11-30-2013, 08:13 AM
    Om namah shivaya, is my all time favorite mantra, i always post it in chat Smile
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    11-30-2013, 09:33 AM
    (11-30-2013, 07:06 AM)Adonai One Wrote:
    Quote:On another note, why is there the compulsion amongst so many people who find the LOO to write their own book based on the LOO? I mean, I've seen a fair few and it's usually just like "LoO for dummies" from which the author can reap that sweet validation and attention for making their incredible counterfeit knowledge and wisdom available to the public. This isn't aimed at anyone in particular it just fascinates me that the occurrence is so frequent.
    There is no such thing as counterfeit knowledge and wisdom. The concept of property over information is a farce and a completely inane human concept that only cripples the species.

    I was being rather facetious there, but oh boy do you seem to have some strong views lol. You won't be bitten by the Fang once you realise it's not there. What I was joking about is how people enjoy taking things and redistributing it under their own name (I've seen it a lot with the Ra Material). I'm all for freedom of information but it's hilarious watching kids wanting to be credited for stuff they don't understand. And like I said, sometimes it's just too painfully obvious what they really want out of it despite what ever empty loving words and poor use of complex language they employ lol. You know, people that watch videos of science on youtube rather than ones who actually study it and contribute to the field.

    Quote:A very detailed expansion of the archetypes, far revamped from the stuff I've posted on the forums. It will fully flesh out the archetypes and allow people to polarize and balance themselves using them. Anything coming from Ra's mouth is mostly without significant distortion.The archetypal interpretations of the questioners are significantly unpenetrating understatements.

    hmmm, fair enough just don't become another zealous fanatic please, I'm not sure how many more I can handle.


    Quote:Last thing; isolated sensations in the body do not necessarily have a causal relationship with the rays.
    I have experience in dealing with metaphysical sensation. I know how to differentiate between metaphysical feeling and muscle pain.
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    I wasn't talking about muscle pain exclusively, muscle pain is not the only type of bodily sensation... I was hoping that would be obvious...



    This belief that you are a target of malicious mind control due to your endeavours being of such apparent importance is unhealthy, for you and your partner. Even if this possibility were actual, the way you are going about it seems rather unhealthy as well.

    I've even been in the same pickle and am honestly trying to help you. You see, there are some lessons that I would rather not see people learn the hard way...

    Oh well, hopefully that helps.
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    11-30-2013, 10:51 AM
    It is funny, I started writing a book before reading LOO.
    The main idea of this book was to use the study of language as a form of communication and also to link professional observational data into the idea of communication without language. This text was to be named, Mind Unbound
    After reading LOO I've realised that all the information is already available to anyone on this planet for instant and complete awakening, as a matter of choice it is.
    The point being that language can exist as a "bound", temporarily retarding the entity's abilities to transfer energy efficaciously. Syntax is a heavy structure to wield especially when dealing with conceptualizing light densities.
    all is well.

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    11-30-2013, 11:00 AM
    Primordial, you might enjoy Wittgenstein.
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