2012, some confusion!

[Biu_Tze]

So, let's say things start going down in 2012, and that earth switches to 4th density, I hear that we will have the opportunity to live out our lives, but if we choose to have children, what happen to them, what happen to their children? doesn't it have to stop eventually? how oh how will this/could this take place? not that it REALLY matters to now, but it's something I'm curious about. Ideas?

[Ashim]

Earth will not "switch" in one moment as you imply, it is a process and very much underway.
You decide what happens. Simple as that.

Love & Light

[charlie2012]

My personal guess is that earths magnetic field will slowly decrease (which it is already) and that the solar winds will eliminate all life as we know it (2nd and 3rd density). Those who feel fear at this time will die and repeat 3rd density, those who feel love will die and go into 4th density. We wont know for sure until it has happened though, but until that, i will try to spread as much love as possible!

Love & Light!

[Ashim]

charlie2012, As always, just my humble opinion. I try to stay very much centered in the heart chakra, you know, spreading Love and Light all over. I think there is no "dying". How do you react to your surroundings? I try to see the beauty in the moment, in stillness.

[AnthroHeart]

There is a theory of a superwave of energy scheduled to hit in 2012. I don't know much about it, but it's supposed to be an unusually high amount of energy from the galaxy pretty much all at once.

I don't know as it's just a theory. Either way, I'm fascinated about all the possibilities.

I also do believe that, since we create our reality, that our expectations can influence how we will experience 2012. We can be next to someone else and have two totally different experiences. Such is the nature of parallel existences.

[charlie2012]

So do i ashim, and i meant nothing negative with the word dying, and if anyone sees it as a negative experience i wish to change it to "leave the physical vehicle" I used to feel some fear and loneliness, but i've learnt that love is what will eventually unite us. Together we are one, and all our so called problems are actually opportunities to learn and teach eachother in this beautiful experience!

Love&Light!

[fairyfarmgirl]

Earth will not "switch" in one moment as you imply, it is a process and very much underway.
You decide what happens. Simple as that.

Love & Light

: Agreed, Ashim!

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Sometime after 2012-- we will travel through the Sun or a Solar flare will travel through us. This is what the Mayans are speaking of. This is why there are some many helpers here right now and the Grid work that is being done as well as bringing the crystals back on line are occuring. It is our LOVE that we LET SHINE THROUGH that will assist us in traveling through this sun or solar flare as the SHIFT of the AGES is upon us. Will it happen immediately... the Mayans do not know...they only know it will happen. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcaez8jn2Zg

fairyfarmgirl

[oguz]

according to cassiopaeans, date of ascension of postponed to 2014.
Because in a 2009 transcript, they say it remaint 5 yrs and 0 new yr.

Session Date: June 20th 2009

Laura, Ark, Don D, Jason, A**, Joe, Allen B, C**, G**, Scottie

A: 5 more years! 2 go! 0 new year!

Q: (L) And who do we have with us this evening?

A: Poinonia

Q: (L) And where do you transmit through?

A: Cassiopaea

[Peregrinus]

Galactic processes cannot be postponed. When we reach galactic center, the time of harvest will be upon us.

[Ashim]

My friend and co- humble servant, what in your opinion is
the return of the "Lord of the Harvest"?
Are we really a binary system?
Planet "x"?
Your thoughts.

Love & Light

[Peregrinus]

My friend and co- humble servant, what in your opinion is
the return of the "Lord of the Harvest"?

I would suggest the Lord of the Harvest are the Guardians, but I cannot guarantee this is accurate. What was often written in biblical terms contained less than ideal amounts of distortion.

51.1 Ra: ... The third group watching over this process is that group you call the Guardians. This group is from the octave above our own and serves in this manner as light bringers. These Guardians provide the precise emissions of light/love in exquisitely fastidious disseminations of discrimination so that the precise light/love vibration of each entity may be ascertained.

Are we really a binary system?
Planet "x"?

If you believe we are in a binary system, we are in one. If you believe there is a planet x, there is one. You manifest your reality brother.

I tend to not worry or think about these ideas too much, for whether they are indeed true is of no consequence to my spiritual evolution, and tends to remove me from what I desire to be focusing on.

Does that make sense to you brother?

[βαθμιαίος]

If you believe we are in a binary system, we are in one. If you believe there is a planet x, there is one. You manifest your reality brother.

What if Ashim believes we are in a binary system and that there is a planet X but I do not? Whose reality manifests?

[Peregrinus]

Manifested reality does not have to be perceived reality, for all reality as we perceive it now is illusory.

[Richard]

Consensus reality...does it affect all of us no matter what we believe. Are we carried along the wave of whatever the masses believe. I've often wondered if that why there is so much negative material out there. As if someone / something is trying to influence an outcome based on consensus.

I hold to the thought and prayer that all of us will get what we wish for. In a universe of infinite universes...its not so far fetched.

Richard

[Ashim]

Consensus reality...does it affect all of us no matter what we believe. Are we carried along the wave of whatever the masses believe. I've often wondered if that why there is so much negative material out there. As if someone / something is trying to influence an outcome based on consensus.

I hold to the thought and prayer that all of us will get what we wish for. In a universe of infinite universes...its not so far fetched.

Richard

Nice post Richard. I think your insight is excellent.
Now why would these someone/something try to influence our 'reality'?
I join you in your prayer.

Love & Light

[Eddie]

David Wilcock's 2012 Event Horizon video is now online. Link below.....

2012 Event Horizon

[litllady]

I am of the thinking that the full affect of something like Earth and the life of Earth changing vibration would take hundreds of hears. I am the odd ball here and I was the odd ball at Divine Cosmos when I spoke there....I think focus on a date is unhealthy, something my inner self never wanted to get caught up in. I think there will be a lot of disappointment in 2012.

For me, I see change has started. I can look back and see it started as far back as 1975. My assumption is that it could take anywhere from 100-600 years (I think Ra said 100-700)...so give or take there. I happen to think there are many who think they are ready for a higher dimension and are not being honest with themselves. Higher...is not better and nor lower is worse. Humility shall lead the way.

If there is vibrational changes occurring, I think my childrens vibration is different then mine...I think the time they were born into and their choosing of who to be born unto both affect them. I dont think things will happen like the 'twinkling of the eye, one minute 2 men are in a field, then the next minute only one'....I dont see that happening. I dont see children getting 'left suddenly'. I think it will all happen in natural means for the most part...with a few bumps. As much as I love you all and feel drawn to those who study the LOO....Im not a fan of the 2012 date at all.

Please allow my words to be me just sharing my thoughts, and not a judgment against anyone who awaits 2012. I know there are others out there that find it very unhealthy for their inner vibration to focus on a date, so I just bring voice for those who need to know to listen to their inner voice, not everyone else's outside voice. Follow your heart, not anothers. We are in a individual experience for a reason. For those that do have a strong urge to focus on 2012, I would give the same advice. We are all here in different experiences, but dont assume that your purpose and intuition must be anothers or must mean that another is not 'listening' to their inner voice since theirs says something different.

This posts may seem strange...I just let my inner self type and do the talking, I dont mean to come off any certain way, not sure that I did. Often I read back through my posts and am like....'hmmmm, I wrote that and why?'.

Point being...why worry about tomorrow....today is HERE and NOW. Go stick your bare feet in some dirt and lay with the grass. Soak up Earth while your here...and let her soak up little bit of you too!
Love to all
LV

[Richard]

LtlLady,

You are not the odd ball. There is a definite split in opinions on Bring4th….between the immediate and the extended. I think Dec 21, 2012 will come and go like any other day. The shift is happening now and will continue for several hundred years. All of us have several more incarnations to serve…if that is in our plan.

But that’s just my opinion.

Richard

[Ali Quadir]

My friend and co- humble servant, what in your opinion is
the return of the "Lord of the Harvest"?
Are we really a binary system?
Planet "x"?
Your thoughts.

It would seem that way.... Earth science is figuring it out as we speak.
http://www.physorg.com/news6428.html

It is a dark companion... Quite similar to Sirius's dark companion. And were Sirius and Sol not supposed to be twins? Why did the ancient civilizations point at Sirius again?

[Namaste]

There are two schools of thought here.

The first is that we experience our own universe, entirely tailored to us as individuals, just what we need to aid our spiritual evolution...

According to Ra (and many other sources), there are an infinite number of Universes, and hence possibilities. The universe that you experience could depend on your own intention, and specifically, your own vibration.

Some people on this board may see the 2012 winter solstice pass as any other day, and think to themselves "I knew it, fancy thinking it would be quick!".

Others may experience death of the chemical body. They could then incarnate in another 3D world, or move to 4D.

Others may experience a sudden shift in density - popping into another 'reality'. Disappearing from this one.

Others may, as the Hosts of Heaven say, see a bright light and be lifted to a ship (consciousness) and go to 4D/Terra.

This could easily happen - the world we experience is an illusion. The code could be changed in an instant for each and every one of us.

If this is the case, all we need to do is live for the now, with love in our hearts.

The second line of thought is based upon Ra mentioning that 3D and 4D cannot exist simultaneously (at this time, since Gaia 3D is to be renewed). This could mean:

A) 2012 - and more importantly, the run up - is cataclysmic, in which all life dies. Any surviving life is wiped out exactly on 21/12/2012 as the galactic energy hit, and potentially clears, the planet. Lets not forget, there is no such thing as death, so this isn't as 'bad' as people think, or fear. David Wilcock mentions that this is highly unlikely, as "what's the point in creating all this life just to destroy it". It's not being destroyed however, as each soul will move on exactly as it needs to, and we are after all, immortal, have have already died many, many times. We then experience the corresponding 3D or 4D reality.

B) The world we experience now, 3D, is changing gradually to 4D. 21/12/2012 is the 'bing' of the celestial microwave, transition of energy complete; DNA changes hard-coded and ready to manifest in X generations. This would entail that negative people would die naturally and not re-incarnate here, and that only the 4D+ people would 'survive' long-term, and be able to procreate. We would then continue to evolve and become the lighter beings that is prophesied. Full 4D+ would appear relatively quickly over X generations (perhaps even one?), as the 3D life forms pass on.

Either way, all we need to do is live for the now, with love in our hearts.

It's impossible to predict, and in trying to do so one can induce suffering due to worrying what they are going to experience. Each will experience what is perfect for them.

L&L

[Horizon]

From the info I've read thus far (outside the Ra material), events are beginning to happen in subtle variances. I've seen mentioned many times about how our path as the Milky Way galaxy is beginning to orbit into the Photon Belt coming from Alcyon (the Sun in the Lyra galaxy). The duration of this orbit will take 2,000 years, in which there will be intense light since photons are basically light particles. Presently we are on the fringes of this photon belt, which explains the diminished solar activity, decreased electromagnetic activity on Earth, global cooling stages as we near the end of an interglacial period, and so forth. From what I understand so far, the 'moment of transition' will feel like putting your finger in a light socket. Fear triggers a 3rd density reincarnation while acceptance shall give us the option of going 4th or 5th density. I'm not quite sure, but I believe it was also said that 4th Density Earth will be relocated to the Lyra System where 4th and 5th density already exist, and they will help with the transitions.
For some reason, I have difficulty understanding the Planet X/Nibiru theory in reference to planetary collision or dark binary star possibilities. The cosmic synchronicity has been in place for hundreds of millions of years. Perhaps I am missing the relevance, and if it has any possibilities of being linked with the operations of the Orions.

[crystl37]

Are we really a binary system?
Planet "x"?

Ra on Planet "x"

11.4 Questioner: Is there a planet opposite our sun, in relation to us, that we do not know about?

Ra: I am Ra. There is a sphere in the area opposite your sun of a very, very cold nature, but large enough to skew certain statistical figures. This sphere should not properly be called a planet as it is locked in first density.

Jose Arguelles answers the question "are we really a binary system?" definitively in 'Earth Ascending:An Illustrated Treatise on Laws Governing Whole Systems'.

The binary triplet configuration is a whole number code and visual construct. From this configuration as it manifests in the 260-unit matrix of the Sacred Calendar, one-eighth of the psi bank warp, all other structures and process are derived. In this regard the binary triplet configuration is the primary resonant structure common to all processes and systems. It is the visible form of the cosmic code.

It's bilateral symmety defines it as binary or twofold.

...it also represents the basic dynamic or mechanism of the double helix, of the genetic code. i.e./ two strands of DNA crossing and winding around each other. As the basic code of life containing the information governing both the replication and auto-regulation of all living organisms, all DNA is based on the binary triplet configuration. The basic structure of DNA is as follows: of the two strands, one contains the template of the other....Further, each strand processes information in a direction opposite the other.
Translating this process into terms of the biopsychic situation of human life and consciousness, one information flow moves from the future to the present, the other from the past to the future. The former is the flow or current of vision, intuition, dream. The other represents information as it is manifest and codified into symbols, written forms, material structures, books, libraries, and so forth...

Here is a link to this section of the book-

Earth Ascending pg.32

Be sure to read pages 44-46.

Emergent Culture explores and expands on Arguelles' work by analyzing past and current events and the Tzolkin cycles in a very relevant presentation.

[dolphin]

The National Academy of Sciences (NAS) is an honorific society of distinguished scholars engaged in scientific and engineering research, dedicated to the furtherance of science and technology and to their use for the general welfare.

The NAS was signed into being by President Abraham Lincoln on March 3, 1863, at the height of the Civil War. As mandated in its Act of Incorporation, the NAS has, since 1863, served to "investigate, examine, experiment, and report upon any subject of science or art" whenever called upon to do so by any department of the government.
http://www.nasonline.org/site/PageServer..._main_page


A new study from the National Academy of Sciences outlines grim possibilities on Earth for a worst-case scenario solar storm.

Damage to power grids and other communications systems could be catastrophic, the scientists conclude, with effects leading to a potential loss of governmental control of the situation.

The prediction is based in part on a major solar storm in 1859 that caused telegraph wires to short out in the United States and Europe, igniting widespread fires.

It was perhaps the worst in the past 200 years, according to the new study, and with the advent of modern power grids and satellites, much more is at risk.

"A contemporary repetition of the [1859] event would cause significantly more extensive (and possibly catastrophic) social and economic disruptions," the researchers conclude.

Modern power grids are so interconnected that a big space storm — the type expected to occur about once a century — could cause a cascade of failures.

The race is on for better forecasting abilities, as the next peak in solar activity is expected to come around 2012.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,478024,00.html

May 29, 2009: An international panel of experts led by NOAA and sponsored by NASA has released a new prediction for the next solar cycle. Solar Cycle 24 will peak, they say, in May 2013 with a below-average number of sunspots.

The 1859 storm--known as the "Carrington Event" after astronomer Richard Carrington who witnessed the instigating solar flare--electrified transmission cables, set fires in telegraph offices, and produced Northern Lights so bright that people could read newspapers by their red and green glow. A recent report by the National Academy of Sciences found that if a similar storm occurred today, it could cause $1 to 2 trillion in damages to society's high-tech infrastructure and require four to ten years for complete recovery. For comparison, Hurricane Katrina caused "only" $80 to 125 billion in damage.

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/sci...rediction/

[Peregrinus]

Good. Perhaps it will completely destroy the current controlling infrastructure, and the world will be free of its chains. All is perfect. All is love.

[dolphin]

Good. Perhaps it will completely destroy the current controlling infrastructure, and the world will be free of its chains. All is perfect. All is love.

The controlling infrastructure as you call it is well prepared to survive.

The Global Elite would retreat to the underground cities that have been prepared for them over the last decades and billions of people would be left to perish.

Among those Global Elite are the worst of the negative polarity beings on this planet and they would emerge to rebuild the world in the image of their perverted humanist nightmare.

No matter if such an event as described happens, or not they are at this moment very busy bringing about that nightmare to fruition one way, or another.

They fully intend to murder off over 4.5 billion people.

[Monica]

No matter if such an event as described happens, or not they are at this moment very busy bringing about that nightmare to fruition one way, or another.

They fully intend to murder off over 4.5 billion people.

They may indeed be very busy planning such a scenario, but, according to Q'uo, they won't succeed, at least not in this timeline.

Sessions in Focus > 2007.02.11 World Events, Failed STS Coup, Rejoining Time-Lateral

... riding upon this time lateral as you have, you have experienced repeated waves of empire as they have flourished and fallen only to see another empire rise and fall and another and another. If you look at your outer environment you may see these forces at work even now, moving in a repetitive manner, satisfying that portion of the tribe of humankind’s deeper mind which is used to these energies and feels comfortable with them, not because they are good but because they are what planet Earth is all about.

The breaking forth of new life into this dark world is a common occurrence because the light cannot be put out by darkness. And person after person after person has moments of brilliant insight in which they see that responding to violence with violence is not a wise move.

...

There are entities from fifth density on the service-to-self path that are attempting a coup, shall we say, of this train of humankind running along this parallel time track. They would like it not to rejoin the main track.

...

We would say that to the best of our knowledge—which is not without error but is only opinion—the timetable of your planet is a set one. The planet itself, minus the time lateral, will completely shift into fourth density at the winter solstice of 2011.

...

There was in the planetary energy system an adjustment made at one point that would simply remove the planetary population through natural means because it was failing to come to harvest. This pole shift was averted in 1998 by many groups such as this one [that] were aware that consciousness needed to be lightened and [that] spent a good deal of time and energy as light bringers and those who spoke about these energies, these times, and the spiritual principles involved in evolution.

This work has enabled this planet to have the added physical space/time for those entities within incarnation at this time to come to harvest on their own and also in order to give entities who graduated early the opportunity to come back into this planetary environment you call Earth and help accelerate the shift in consciousness. They, more or less, shall we say, have stacked the deck, making the tipping point ever closer towards rejoining the main line of space/time.

We confidently believe that your planet will rejoin that natural movement and progression of your planet into fourth-density space/time.

...

We do not believe that the entities who attempted this coup will be able to convince the majority of entities upon planet Earth that a fear-based and violence-ridden solution is the correct solution to the ethical dilemmas of this time.

If entities convinced themselves that the forces of war are the correct forces in which to invest, your planet would be lost and would become a feeding ground for fifth-density entities who feed off of fear and suffering. This would be a slavery which all the slaves agreed was needed.

We believe that your people will throw off the yoke of slavery to violence and begin to sustain responsible efforts to become truly free, to evolve, and progress. It is, as always, the choice of those of planet Earth and none other may vote in this particular referendum.

So, it is in your hands.

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These are energies of the shining, glorious, honest truth. Embrace them insofar as you can. See how you might cooperate with these energies. If they bring things up in your life that you have not wanted to face, give yourself a smile, because you need it, and then sit down to do your work, my friends.

Remember who you are and why you came here. Remember what it is that you think you want to do in order to serve.

...

You are fully capable of doing this, my friends. You have every faculty available to you: your intellect, your intuition, your support system, however you see that to be, and your choices as you move through life. You could say indeed that 2007 was the year of shift and you could be right. You could have also been right in 1962 when this instrument first became aware of a channeled group that predicted Armageddon and the need to get to safe places, and every year since then.

At every point that is now, there is a branching off into an infinite number of possibilities. The world you make is the world you choose at each of those moments of now.

The entire transcript is well worth reading. Part of our mission here is to heed Q'uo's advice and do what we can to help create a positive scenario, instead of a negative scenario.

[Peregrinus]

Good. Perhaps it will completely destroy the current controlling infrastructure, and the world will be free of its chains. All is perfect. All is love.

The controlling infrastructure as you call it is well prepared to survive.

The Global Elite would retreat to the underground cities that have been prepared for them over the last decades and billions of people would be left to perish.

Among those Global Elite are the worst of the negative polarity beings on this planet and they would emerge to rebuild the world in the image of their perverted humanist nightmare.

No matter if such an event as described happens, or not they are at this moment very busy bringing about that nightmare to fruition one way, or another.

They fully intend to murder off over 4.5 billion people.

The sun has been adjusted to 4D magnetics already without incident. Our great Mother Gaia's magnetosphere has also been prepared to withstand the storm which will happen in 2012, and she is in the final stage of aligning her magnetics for for the impending glorious birth of Terra. This will continue to approach with discomfort, as does any birth.

We are in no danger other than from the fear which one may create them self.

It is now our time to raise our consciousness and to shine our love/light so that others may flock to our beacon and join us in our desire to help to continue to heal our great Mother.

The negative elite... have provided a wonderful service to us, a catalyst for our increased consciousness. I love them dearly for what they have done, and thank them greatly; they have no power or control over those that live in the vibration of love. Their power is slipping away from them like water through their fingers and will continue to do so, no matter how hard they grasp at it.

[Monica]

We are in no danger other than from the fear which one may create them self.

It is now our time to raise our consciousness and to shine our love/light so that others may flock to our beacon and join us in our desire to help to continue to heal our great Mother.

The negative elite... have provided a wonderful service to us, a catalyst for our increased consciousness. I love them dearly for what they have done, and thank them greatly; they have no power or control over those that live in the vibration of love. Their power is slipping away from them like water through their fingers and will continue to do so, no matter how hard they grasp at it.

Very well said!!

[dolphin]

BIO: PAUL A. LaVIOLETTE, PH.D
http://etheric.com/LaViolette/LaViolette.html


LaVIOLETTE'S Galactic Superwaves are verified.

One key area of Starburst research is concerned with the investigation of Galactic superwaves, intense cosmic ray particle barrages that travel to us from the center of our Galaxy and that last for periods of up to a few thousand years. Astronomical and geological evidence indicates that the last major superwave impacted our solar system around 12,000 to 16,000 years ago and produced abrupt changes of the Earth's climate. The land animal extinction episode which occurred during this interval was the worst in several million years. It is estimated that approximately one or two superwaves strong enough to trigger an ice age are presently on their way to us from their birth place 23,000 light years away.
http://starburstfound.org/

Predictions and their subsequent verification of Galactic Waves.
http://starburstfound.org/LaViolette/Predict.html

Peter Sterling says he was given information from two friendly GREYS and it coincides with a Galactic Wave in 2012 and has talked it over with LaVIOLETTE

Interview with Peter Sterling
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XQbf4vOx_g

[Richard]

Asteroids, comets, solar waves, rogue planets, pole shift, earthquakes, super-volcanoes, alien invasion, financial meltdown, nuclear war, viruses, galactic waves…so much fear. So many books and theories to be sold on the internet. So many lecture circuits…so much money to be made.

No one really knows what the future holds.

There is also the possibility that we will all live the natural extent of our lives now and experience more lives in the centuries to come as humanity gradually comes to its senses. Probably can’t sell many books with that theory….

Richard