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    Bring4th Bring4th Studies Spiritual Development & Metaphysical Matters Transition to Fourth Density Fear and Love

    Thread: Fear and Love


    Al chemy (Offline)

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    #1
    02-10-2015, 09:30 AM
    Trying to answer the question as to why if man has the potential to create a better world why are things deteriorating led to my realization. The question I asked could be compared to a Zen koan. The intellect tries to answer the question . At this point one could well fall into belief traps,or realize the answer to the question. The answer can't be known by the ego centric "intellectual" consciousness. Realization is a shift in consciousness. The world's various operating systems ie religious ,economic ,and political are antagonistic systems ,reflecting the fear of ego centric consciousness. Humans are on the treadmill of self doubt trying to affirm and defend their world of good and evil. Wonder if others have the urge to say wake up, climate change is real and turning abrupt and deadly ,you are running out of the resources that fuel your way of life ,your economy is collapsing and you add over two hundred thousand humans a day. The paradox is that as our situation becomes more precarious to our survival the fear based ego centric consciousness will find affirmation in more extreme ideologies. We are caught in a negative feed back loop of terror and destruction. Self realization of the Law of One is the only way out of this path to extinction.
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    Karl (Offline)

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    #2
    02-10-2015, 09:50 AM
    The powers-that-be on the earth want to exterminate the 'surplus humans' I believe.

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    Ashim (Offline)

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    02-10-2015, 12:49 PM
    (02-10-2015, 09:50 AM)Karl Wrote: The powers-that-be on the earth want to exterminate the 'surplus humans' I believe.

    Absolutely, categorically, wrong.
    There are factions, groups and individuals that may have these intentions but the true 'powers-that-be' have no such desire.
    The negative elite are not powers-that-be.

    If you are refering to the georgia guidestones, well they would seem to refer to a alternative timeline where poulation reduction through war, famine etc. would have already happened, hence the "Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature."

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    Enyiah (Offline)

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    #4
    02-10-2015, 09:59 PM
    The planet has been largely under the influence of freewill chosers of the STS group.  They have created the *system* and have maintained POWER over the masses through use of secret knowledge and thru dark power ritual sacrifice. 
    This was/is part of the Plan in the grander scheme of Creation - most possibly being useful as catalyst so that mankind can wake up and *know* themselves as they truly are - which is Source/LOVE.
    On a more personal note I want to say that the more I *wake* up, the less I am amused by the reality of it. Sad
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    #5
    02-12-2015, 08:01 AM
    (02-10-2015, 12:49 PM)Ashim Wrote:
    (02-10-2015, 09:50 AM)Karl Wrote: The powers-that-be on the earth want to exterminate the 'surplus humans' I believe.

    Absolutely, categorically, wrong.
    There are factions, groups and individuals that may have these intentions but the true 'powers-that-be' have no such desire.
    The negative elite are not powers-that-be.

    If you are refering to the georgia guidestones, well they would seem to refer to a alternative timeline where poulation reduction through war, famine etc. would have already happened, hence the "Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature."

    What would you call the powers-that-be then?

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    AnthroHeart (Offline)

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    #6
    02-12-2015, 11:55 AM
    I still haven't seen how ritual sacrifice has any real power in the real world.

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    outerheaven Away

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    02-12-2015, 02:09 PM (This post was last modified: 02-12-2015, 02:13 PM by outerheaven.)
    (02-12-2015, 11:55 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I still haven't seen how ritual sacrifice has any real power in the real world.

    Have you attempted it?

    I haven't, but I believe the effect is real.

    Reading Ra, I was hoping that Ra would say something along the lines of -- "ritual magic is essentially pointless, the only thing that matters is the intention behind the ritual, harness that understanding and the need for the ritual is nullified."

    Instead Ra implies that ritual magic has a very real effect because of the roots of the one mind.

    I like to imagine a large mountain; there are an almost infinite number of ways of scaling the mountain and reaching the summit, but there are also well-worn paths that others have followed. It's much easier to go along someone else's path than blaze your own ... although I'd say you're much more likely to encounter other entities along such high-trafficked paths.

    For that reason I don't have much of an interest in magic. I try to live my life as honestly as I can, following my own intuition. Following in the footsteps of others has only ever led me down the wrong path.
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    #8
    02-12-2015, 02:34 PM
    (02-12-2015, 02:09 PM)outerheaven Wrote: Reading Ra, I was hoping that Ra would say something along the lines of -- "ritual magic is essentially pointless, the only thing that matters is the intention behind the ritual, harness that understanding and the need for the ritual is nullified."

    Instead Ra implies that ritual magic has a very real effect because of the roots of the one mind.

    I think that's correct.  It's about the symbolic value behind ritual magic.  The subconscious, of course, does not work with words, but rather with concepts, and so it's a more pure form of communication of intention to use symbols.

    I was watching an early episode of Once Upon a Time, and in it, to actuate a powerful curse, the woman character had to sacrifice the heart of the person that she loved most in the world.  In this case, it was her father, and so she stabbed him with a knife and ripped his heart out.  Then threw it into a fire.  This is a symbolic representation of closing your own heart to all love in a negative act/ritual, and empowers the desire sought for.

    An amazing representation, and a perfect symbol for negative ritual.

    thanks to jivatman for recommending the show b.t.w.
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    Bluebell (Offline)

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    #9
    02-12-2015, 02:43 PM
    is there a way to reverse it through ritual magic? to open the heart?

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    darklight (Offline)

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    02-13-2015, 01:06 AM (This post was last modified: 02-13-2015, 01:07 AM by darklight.)
    (02-12-2015, 02:34 PM)Bring4th_Plenum Wrote:
    (02-12-2015, 02:09 PM)outerheaven Wrote: Reading Ra, I was hoping that Ra would say something along the lines of -- "ritual magic is essentially pointless, the only thing that matters is the intention behind the ritual, harness that understanding and the need for the ritual is nullified."

    Instead Ra implies that ritual magic has a very real effect because of the roots of the one mind.

    I think that's correct.  It's about the symbolic value behind ritual magic.  The subconscious, of course, does not work with words, but rather with concepts, and so it's a more pure form of communication of intention to use symbols.

    I was watching an early episode of Once Upon a Time, and in it, to actuate a powerful curse, the woman character had to sacrifice the heart of the person that she loved most in the world.  In this case, it was her father, and so she stabbed him with a knife and ripped his heart out.  Then threw it into a fire.  This is a symbolic representation of closing your own heart to all love in a negative act/ritual, and empowers the desire sought for.

    An amazing representation, and a perfect symbol for negative ritual.

    thanks to jivatman for recommending the show b.t.w.

    It reminds me to Abraham and Ismael (according to the Islam) or Isaac. Was Abraham STS oriented? I never understood this whole sacrifice story.

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    Diana (Offline)

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    02-13-2015, 01:47 PM
    (02-13-2015, 01:06 AM)darklight Wrote: It reminds me to Abraham and Ismael (according to the Islam) or Isaac. Was Abraham STS oriented? I never understood this whole sacrifice story.

    That story is about blindly following and obeying, even if the directive is to cruelly slaughter (and lie to) your own little son. It's horrible, and yet another example of extreme and reprehensible violence in the bible. The kicker for that story is the ending—the lamb in the thicket. Oh, thank God! We don't have to kill our children because a wrathful God told us to and we must obey or else. Look, he sent us a cute little innocent lamb so we can slit its throat instead. (As though that is a good thing.) What is this God, who requires life sacrifices and so much blood? Huh

    There is, in my opinion, value in ritual, as it focuses intention. But to take life—any life—for one's own gain goes against something very fundamental in existence. I imagine there is power in it, as taking life force and directing it with intention could conceivably be very powerful in a negative and selfish way.
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    #12
    02-13-2015, 05:44 PM
    We know from Ra that the YHWH of the old testament was a 5th density STS creature. No surprise there.

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    AnthroHeart (Offline)

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    #13
    02-13-2015, 08:03 PM
    I just hope I'm not ruled in my privacy by the STS elite.

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