negative wanderers

[Reaper]

They will be there for you as long as you need them to be. They are service-oriented in their own way, after all.

[AngelofDeath]

You have just perfectly described this form of attachment. The fear is that by releasing the demons you will be left with nothing, but that isn't actually the case. It is just too fearful to think about letting go of what is familiar to embrace something new for most people. Your passion isn't in the things you are addicted to, that passion will find a new direction.

[Minyatur]

As AngelOfDeath said, freemdom to be mislead is part of free will utimately. The first distortion is the first law of our Universe.

[dreamliner]

Free Will includes the freedom to be mislead.

Free will is free will only, it does not include any other form; but it can be projected onto infinitely many aspects of the catalyst/experience.

"Freedom to be misled" can only be a concept between negative master and negative slave, as the slave accepts the mastery and the command of their master voluntarily (by their free will).

87.7 Questioner: What is the environmental situation of this particular fifth-density negative entity, and how does he work with fourth-density negative in order to establish power and control; and what is his particular philosophy with respect to himself as Creator and his use of the first distortion and the extension of this use of the first distortion to the fourth-density negative? I hope that this isn’t too complex a question.

Ra: I am Ra. The environment of your companion is that of the rock, the cave, the place of barrenness, for this is the density of wisdom. That which is needed may be thought and received. To this entity very little is necessary upon the physical, if you will, or space/time complex of distortions.

Such an entity spends its consciousness within the realms of time/space in an attempt to learn the ways of wisdom through the utmost use of the powers and resources of the self. Since the self is the Creator, the wisdom density provides many informative and fascinating experiences for the negatively polarized entity. In some respects one may see a more lucid early attachment to wisdom from those of negative polarity as the nexus of positions of consciousness upon which wisdom is laid is simpler.

The relationship of such an entity to fourth-density negative entities is one of the more powerful and the less powerful. The negative path posits slavery of the less powerful as a means of learning the desire to serve the self to the extent that the will is brought to bear. It is in this way that polarity is increased in the negative sense. Thus fourth-density entities are willing slaves of such a fifth-density entity, there being no doubt whatsoever of the relative power of each.

However, the interactions between/of negative and the positive, do not contain such thing as "freedom to be misled". There can only be "freedom to mislead" from the negative's point of view.

Of course, negative can/may try to present it as "freedom to be misled", but it's just another trick/lie.

[AngelofDeath]

You seem to be pretty versed in negative tactics it seems, that's disconcerting. Of course, you will insist your explanation is correct...

I associate free will with the fool. Sometimes the fool is misled. This isn't an atrocity, it is part of the fool learning wisdom and discernment. With no freedom to be misled, we would all be held by the hands and guided through every action. Some desire this, others don't. The freedom to mislead is a puzzle piece to the freedom to be misled. Without our fallibility, we would not expand and grow. Without our freedom to be infringed upon, we would never learn to protect ourselves, or the value of our free will. That is what the dynamic between negative and positive reveals - self-value and value of other selves.

It appears to me that you simply have a fear of being mislead. It seems you place the positive purely in the role of the victim, suggesting the individual would have no influence over the manifestation of their own life events.

[AngelofDeath]

Of course, what do I know...

[dreamliner]

You seem to be pretty versed in negative tactics it seems, that's disconcerting. Of course, you will insist your explanation is correct...

It appears to me that you simply have a fear of being mislead. It seems you place the positive purely in the role of the victim, suggesting the individual would have no influence over the manifestation of their own life events.

It seems that you would be much more happy, if nobody has confronted your insubstantial "wisdom".

I can make reliable extrapolations with little or no past experience; so, one do not need to have a fear of anything to talk about the negative path.

No, I just place the negative in the role of lunatic/invader/aggressor/selfish etc. etc. To repeat, I say that the negative path tries to manipulate and deceive in order to have influence over the manifestation of other individuals' "life events", to service himself/herself in the grand scheme.

I associate free will with the fool. Sometimes the fool is misled. This isn't an atrocity, it is part of the fool learning wisdom and discernment. With no freedom to be misled, we would all be held by the hands and guided through every action. Some desire this, others don't. The freedom to mislead is a puzzle piece to the freedom to be misled. Without our fallibility, we would not expand and grow. Without our freedom to be infringed upon, we would never learn to protect ourselves, or the value of our free will. That is what the dynamic between negative and positive reveals - self-value and value of other selves.

That's another overinterpretation/misinterpretation/misrepresentation. There are visual aids or training aids for the fool/adept; movies, books, plays, games, meditation can all be regarded as visual/training aids. One need not to experience everything by intensely involving in.

47.6 Questioner: Well, what I was actually asking was if 50% is required for graduation from third to fourth in the positive sense, 95% is required for graduation in the negative sense, does this have to more closely approach 100% in both cases for graduation from fourth to fifth? Does an entity have to be 99% polarized for negative and maybe 80% polarized for positive graduation from fourth to fifth?

Ra: I am Ra. We perceive the query now.

To give this in your terms is misleading for there are, shall we say, visual aids or training aids available in fourth density which automatically aid the entity in polarization while cutting down extremely upon the quick effect of catalyst. Thus the density above yours must take up more space/time.

The percentage of service to others of positively oriented entities will harmoniously approach 98% in intention. The qualifications for fifth density, however, involve understanding. This then, becomes the primary qualification for graduation from fourth to fifth density. To achieve this graduation the entity must be able to understand the actions, the movements, and the dance. There is no percentage describable which measures this understanding. It is a measure of efficiency of perception. It may be measured by light. The ability to love, accept, and use a certain intensity of light thus creates the requirement for both positive and negative fourth to fifth harvesting.

[Minyatur]

You speak much of misinterpretation but the core message of the LOO is that All is One, so the polarity game is nothing more than an illusion of separateness.

Freedom to be mislead is something of this density. This is a density of confusion where misleading is a catalyst for growth. Your free will is to be put under a veil to test yourself and misleading is part of this and unless positive entities are born all knowledgable they too will be mislead at some point and this is part of their growth.

If you fail to perceive that both paths are services from the Creator to the Creator, you fail to perceive the Oneness of Creation.

[AngelofDeath]

You seem to be pretty versed in negative tactics it seems, that's disconcerting. Of course, you will insist your explanation is correct...

It appears to me that you simply have a fear of being mislead. It seems you place the positive purely in the role of the victim, suggesting the individual would have no influence over the manifestation of their own life events.

It seems that you would be much more happy, if nobody has confronted your insubstantial "wisdom".

I can make reliable extrapolations with little or no past experience; so, one do not need to have a fear of anything to talk about the negative path.

No, I just place the negative in the role of lunatic/invader/aggressor/selfish etc. etc. To repeat, I say that the negative path tries to manipulate and deceive in order to have influence over the manifestation of other individuals' "life events", to service himself/herself in the grand scheme.

I associate free will with the fool. Sometimes the fool is misled. This isn't an atrocity, it is part of the fool learning wisdom and discernment. With no freedom to be misled, we would all be held by the hands and guided through every action. Some desire this, others don't. The freedom to mislead is a puzzle piece to the freedom to be misled. Without our fallibility, we would not expand and grow. Without our freedom to be infringed upon, we would never learn to protect ourselves, or the value of our free will. That is what the dynamic between negative and positive reveals - self-value and value of other selves.

That's another overinterpretation/misinterpretation/misrepresentation. There are visual aids or training aids for the fool/adept; movies, books, plays, games, meditation can all be regarded as visual/training aids. One need not to experience everything by intensely involving in.

47.6 Questioner: Well, what I was actually asking was if 50% is required for graduation from third to fourth in the positive sense, 95% is required for graduation in the negative sense, does this have to more closely approach 100% in both cases for graduation from fourth to fifth? Does an entity have to be 99% polarized for negative and maybe 80% polarized for positive graduation from fourth to fifth?

Ra: I am Ra. We perceive the query now.

To give this in your terms is misleading for there are, shall we say, visual aids or training aids available in fourth density which automatically aid the entity in polarization while cutting down extremely upon the quick effect of catalyst. Thus the density above yours must take up more space/time.

The percentage of service to others of positively oriented entities will harmoniously approach 98% in intention. The qualifications for fifth density, however, involve understanding. This then, becomes the primary qualification for graduation from fourth to fifth density. To achieve this graduation the entity must be able to understand the actions, the movements, and the dance. There is no percentage describable which measures this understanding. It is a measure of efficiency of perception. It may be measured by light. The ability to love, accept, and use a certain intensity of light thus creates the requirement for both positive and negative fourth to fifth harvesting.

Pretty much all you've said here is "I'm right, you're wrong." Great argument, bud. You've got all the wisdom, to be sure. You're basically just saying your interpretation is correct because it's correct. Those quotes don't in any way support your argument... just kinda being dogmatic. Actually, if I look at the words of Ra, I don't see Ra anywhere labeling and slandering the negative path, so clearly we have a different approach to this whole subject.

Yes, so there are visual aids? And? So that's the path for all? Only one way, right? You don't think visual aids can be misleading too? You don't think there is any foolishness in learning beyond 3D? Not really sure how this suggestion encompasses the thought I have put out.

Go ahead, confront away. Just because you say, "this is the way it is" doesn't at all mean you are right. I have nothing to defend, I just don't think it's fair for one person to lord around saying "this is the way it is".

[AngelofDeath]

That being said, I'm not even saying you're wrong, just that it's not the only interpretation. This thread was opened with a question and idea. I gave my responses, and now I'm being chastised. Go figure.

[dreamliner]

You speak much of misinterpretation but the core message of the LOO is that All is One, so the polarity game is nothing more than an illusion of separateness.

Freedom to be mislead is something of this density. This is a density of confusion where misleading is a catalyst for growth. Your free will is to be put under a veil to test yourself and misleading is part of this and unless positive entities are born all knowledgable they too will be mislead at some point and this is part of their growth.

If you fail to perceive that both paths are services from the Creator to the Creator, you fail to perceive the Oneness of Creation.

I guess you don't/won't get it;

"Freedom to be misled" can only be a concept between negative master and negative slave, for the slave accepts the mastery/command of their master voluntarily (by their free will).

The interactions between/of the negative and the positive, do not include such thing as "freedom to be misled". There can only be "freedom to mislead" from the negative's point of view.

Freedom to be mislead is something of this density. This is a density of confusion where misleading is a catalyst for growth. Your free will is to be put under a veil to test yourself and misleading is part of this and unless positive entities are born all knowledgable they too will be mislead at some point and this is part of their growth.

Your grasp of the veil is also distorted.

There is no mandatory catalyst in the 3rd density, and you can't make "to be misled" as part of positive path's evolution by just posting here.

Sirius entities for instance, would/will not fail to graduate to the 4th density, even if they had failed to extract war/bellicosity experiences of hickson from his memory.

To remind once again; prior to the veil, there was not any single negative entity in this universe, but there still was evolution and entities were able to graduate to upper densities and finally to the seventh density.

[AnthroHeart]

I'm a little scared of eventually experiencing All That Is in 7D.

[Bluebell]

u'll be ready when u do, puddin'.

[AnthroHeart]

u'll be ready when u do, puddin'.

Awww, thanks. From what I understand 7D is not as intense as 3D is.

[dreamliner]

That being said, I'm not even saying you're wrong, just that it's not the only interpretation. This thread was opened with a question and idea. I gave my responses, and now I'm being chastised. Go figure.

In order to defend your/minyatur's position, you could interpret the situation as your freedom to be chastised or you could say that you might have needed someone to lord around saying "this is the way it is", but instead you preferred to interpret the whole discussion and your opponent as unfair to yourself.

interesting.

[Minyatur]

There are only chosen experiences. If you are misguided and set in your mind a false belief, it is of your own free will as a chosen experience.

Positive entities can also misguide unintentionnally or be misguided also unintentionnaly. If misguidance is accepted then it had reason to be. Being mislead is part of the positive path because even if it does not seem to be seeked, it does happen. In the end both paths are paths toward Oneness, the seperation perceived is part of the illusion of separateness.

[AngelofDeath]

That being said, I'm not even saying you're wrong, just that it's not the only interpretation. This thread was opened with a question and idea. I gave my responses, and now I'm being chastised. Go figure.

In order to defend your/minyatur's position, you could interpret the situation as your freedom to be chastised or you could say that you might have needed someone to lord around saying "this is the way it is", but instead you preferred to interpret the whole discussion and your opponent as unfair to yourself.

interesting.

I didn't say I had a problem with the situation, just that that is what I was experiencing. I don't think it's unfair to me, or to anybody, you can say whatever want and have whatever opinion you want. When I say I don't think it's fair, I mean that it needs to be balanced with other opinions, not that it is wrong or unfair for you to express your opinion or that your opinion is unfair to anybody in particular. Certainly I have the freedom to be chastised, and sure maybe I was manifesting that experience for myself, I don't have a problem with that. I believe the lesson it has taught me is just because someone says something is some way, doesn't mean I can't have my own thoughts and opinions or say it is another way.

I'm not opposed to you or your ideas, nor do I view you as an opponent. I do not see it as my views combating your views, we have each shared our thoughts and we have discovered our relative agreement on those thoughts. I've got no qualms about agreeing to disagree. In fact, I take your thoughts to heart as I believe they are inclusive to my ideas regarding the universe, so from my point of view there is only the work of reconciliation.

As I said, I have nothing to defend, I am just sharing thoughts.

[dreamliner]

There are only chosen experiences. If you are misguided and set in your mind a false belief, it is of your own free will as a chosen experience.

Positive entities can also misguide unintentionnally or be misguided also unintentionnaly. If misguidance is accepted then it had reason to be. Being mislead is part of the positive path because even if it does not seem to be seeked, it does happen. In the end both paths are paths toward Oneness, the seperation perceived is part of the illusion of separateness.

Yes, you won't get it.

Polarity is earned through, not only actions-behaviours but also thoughts-intentions; therefore unintentional misguidance by the positive path is not a good example. For example, while interacting with egyptians, Ra group's intention was not to cause distortion, but it occurred somehow. However, the resultant decrease in their polarity was less than the overall increase in the polarity of a negative entity who would cause the same distortion intentionally.

Being misled is not any part of the positive path; trying to present it the other way, is actually trying to "legalize/normalize/standardize" it, which in the end eases/increases the possibility. Because, a positive entity seeing that as the part of the positive path, is an easy target for the negative.

Negative path strives for separateness, and they do not go toward the oneness intentionally. Negative entities can delay but can not avoid the inevitable polarity change in 6th density. So, attributing some nice qualities to the negative path is meaningless.

[AngelofDeath]

I really think it's more a matter of awareness. Being aware of my free will to be misled doesn't mean that I am automatically bound to generate that experience, it means I am now aware that is a possible experience. Then I polarize this thought in my mind and realize that there is also the possibility of me not being misled. Thus, by becoming aware of both polarities of the possibilities I can then use my energies to energize the probability that is preferable for my development, which is, indeed, not to be misled. However, it is foolish not to be aware of one's capability to be misled.

[Minyatur]

The negative path is not meaningless as it is a path to reach Oeness. If it is lacking then the positive path should be as lacking and as much meaningless to reach 7D where there is loss of polarization. The duality of polarity is simply the illusion of separateness where entities of each polarity reject the other. There is balance in Creation of the two paths. If a positive entity thinks the negative experience is meaningless and shouldn't be, then that entity is rejecting Oneness. Acceptance is the only path toward unity as both polarities have an equal place in Creation and the duality is an illusion of separateness.

Negative entities are souls of sorrow but sorrow is existent in Creation just as much as love. You state that there is a difference on this matter for positive and negative entities, but this applies to to both as it is always the Creator responding to the need of another Creator.

[dreamliner]

These are the repetitions of the same baseless point of view.

Positive path is aware of different powers in force, while navigating through its lives and universe. Positive path, basically, is aware that the ultimate power is its free will, and there is no need to divert it to energize baseless possibilities such as "freedom to be misled" etc. On the other hand, negative path's efforts are towards energizing the possibilities that would help it most and towards trying to manipulate other entities' free will by "suggestion":

67.13 Questioner: I was wondering about the magical, shall I say, principles behind the fifth-density entity giving this service and his ability to give it. Why is he able to utilize these particular physical distortions from a philosophical or magical point of view?

Ra: I am Ra. This entity is able to, shall we say, penetrate in time/space configuration the field of this particular entity. It has moved through the quarantine without any vehicle and thus has been more able to escape detection by the net of the Guardians.

This is the great virtue of the magical working whereby consciousness is sent forth essentially without vehicle as light. The light would work instantly upon an untuned individual by suggestion, that is the stepping out in front of the traffic because the suggestion is that there is no traffic. This entity, as each in this group, is enough disciplined in the ways of love and light that it is not suggestible to any great extent. However, there is a predisposition of the physical complex which this entity is making maximal use of as regards the instrument, hoping for instance, by means of increasing dizziness, to cause the instrument to fall or to indeed walk in front of your traffic because of impaired vision.

The magical principles, shall we say, may be loosely translated into your system of magic whereby symbols are used and traced and visualized in order to develop the power of the light.

It is, indeed, foolish to energize the opposite polarity whose ultime goal is to depolarize or enslave.


Negative path's aim/wish is not to reach oneness; that's the end result, the inevitable end of the story for the negative path. As I stated in a previous post above, there was not any single negative entity in this universe prior to the veil, but the positive entities were able to reach 7D though. What is meaningless is to attribute some nice qualities to the negative path. The only nice quality to be attributed to the negative path is "free will", nothing else.

Defining the negative path as "souls of sorrow" is truly funny. The negative path only responds to its own needs. Even responding to its master's needs is in fact responding to its own needs, because "The negative path posits slavery of the less powerful as a means of learning the desire to serve the self to the extent that the will is brought to bear". Serial killers (the ones that are free from schizoid/paranoid distortions), healthy psychopaths, sadists, dictators etc. are some examples to the professions of the negative path.

[Minyatur]

It is, indeed, foolish to energize the opposite polarity whose ultime goal is to depolarize or enslave.

Negative path's aim/wish is not to reach oneness; that's the end result, the inevitable end of the story for the negative path. As I stated in a previous post above, there was not any single negative entity in this universe prior to the veil, but the positive entities were able to reach 7D though. What is meaningless is to attribute some nice qualities to the negative path. The only nice quality to be attributed to the negative path is "free will", nothing else.

Prior to the veil, entities were not oriented STO either,  there was no polarization. You can't be STO without the free will of wishing for it.

dreamliner

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Defining the negative path as "souls of sorrow" is truly funny. The negative path only responds to its own needs. Even responding to its master's needs is in fact responding to its own needs, because "The negative path posits slavery of the less powerful as a means of learning the desire to serve the self to the extent that the will is brought to bear". Serial killers (the ones that are free from schizoid/paranoid distortions), healthy psychopaths, sadists, dictators etc. are some examples to the professions of the negative path.

The positive path also does the same, they respond to their needs and the needs of positive entities whereas negative entities do the same for theirs and negative entities' needs. Why do you think there is a polarization war? Negative entities want fellow negative entities to be able to incarnate on this sphere whereas positive entities want positive ones to be able to incarnate. Both are responding to existing needs of the Creator and are playing their part in offering both paths to 3D individuals. The professions you spoke of are only 3D experiences, 3D positive entities are also not actually doing much constructive as they do not understand anything about the nature of creation yet. Not constructive being relative as everyone is always equally playing their part.

I think you view too much of a difference between both polarity. All is One and all is equally the Creator, if thinking your path is above helps you move foward then that's good but at some point you'll have to leave this conception behind and perceive that all is One. Ra message is very oriented toward positive entities, but in no way does it disminishes the negative path or portrays it as wrong. He says that in 6D a negative entity will need to loose his polarity to move foward but the same applies to a positive entity. 7D has no concept of polarity and both paths must be transcended, all Ra says is that at that point it is easier for a STO entity.

I find it ironic that you portray a path as wrong when Intelligent Infinity finds it acceptable. From 4D to 6D, postive and negative entities are as close to Intelligent Infinity as the other polarity is. In 7D, there will be no such thing as a positive or negative polarity so to move there both paths must be understood and then transcended.

Also if you fail to perceive that you are each and every one of those of the negative path you are condemning, you are failing to perceive Oneness. Maybe you should ask yourself why "you" are acting the way "they" are as "them" while "you" aren't as "you" are now. All is One, there is no one you are not.

dreamliner

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It is, indeed, foolish to energize the opposite polarity whose ultime goal is to depolarize or enslave.

Isn't that exactly what a positive entity should do?

42.4 Questioner: Would a perfectly balanced entity feel an emotional response when being attacked by the other-self?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. The response is love.

Also misguidance does not apply to anything of what you said. Misguidance can happen to anyone because there is no one that is of only one polarity. Unless you consider yourself to be 100% positively polarized, you are prone to be misguided like everything else in Creation. Misguidance is being told what you want to hear.

[Reaper]

Dreamliner, have you ever studied the negative path from its own perspective?

As far as I can tell you're just stringing ideas together from a few Ra quotes, and you have no actual knowledge of what the practice of black magic and a negative lifestyle involves. You're projecting your own fears and desire for conflict onto something you don't understand in any meaningful way. Is it a path of control and manipulation? Most definitely. Is it a path of stereotypical cartoon villany? Absolutely not. It is, at its essence, a highly complex, contemplative and utterly relentless quest to understand the divinity of the Self. These individuals arrive at a different conclusion when defining the nature of divinity, and therefore pursue different ends, but it is still a path that is deeply spiritual, and many, if not all of those who follow it genuinely feel they are doing what is best and right. Most of the competent black magicians I've met (and I've met quite a few) actually have a far more refined awareness of their own ethical systems than the hippie culture that would like to think it's monopolized the conscience. Not only do many of them crusade against corrupt systems and blatant injustice, they are far more effective in getting results because they have learned how to manipulate power structures from the inside out.

While I've decided it is not a path I desire to walk, my time upon it educated me in many new, valuable perspectives, and made me much more conscious of my own motivations. Through that experience I've developed a much clearer understanding of the mechanics of my own morality, and am far more organized in my personal goals. I learned the value of good communication and a meaningful presentation of the Self. I gained a sense of discipline and conscientiousness. Heck, I'd recommend everyone spend a month or two following the lifestyle of a negative neophyte, especially if it scares you. You will come out more courteous, self-aware and definitely more humble.

Until you can see your enemy through his own eyes, you will never successfully deflect his blows.

[Minyatur]

Ra: I am Ra. Consider, if you will, that the universe is infinite. This has yet to be proven or disproven, but we can assure you that there is no end to your selves, your understanding, what you would call your journey of seeking, or your perceptions of the creation.


That which is infinite cannot be many, for many-ness is a finite concept. To have infinity you must identify or define that infinity as unity; otherwise, the term does not have any referent or meaning. In an Infinite Creator there is only unity. You have seen simple examples of unity. You have seen the prism which shows all colors stemming from the sunlight. This is a simplistic example of unity.

In truth there is no right or wrong. There is no polarity for all will be, as you would say, reconciled at some point in your dance through the mind/body/spirit complex which you amuse yourself by distorting in various ways at this time. This distortion is not in any case necessary. It is chosen by each of you as an alternative to understanding the complete unity of thought which binds all things. You are not speaking of similar or somewhat like entities or things. You are every thing, every being, every emotion, every event, every situation. You are unity. You are infinity. You are love/light, light/love. You are. This is the Law of One.

[dreamliner]

Prior to the veil, entities were not oriented STO either,  there was no polarization. You can't be STO without the free will of wishing for it.

Your instability is approaching to a critical point.

[Minyatur]

dreamliner, your quotes do not apply. You take one exemple that fits in an indirect way what you're saying and dismiss the whole LOO message that says otherwise in a direct manner.

What you're saying in this thread reflects division surely not the Law of One. Unless you realize that you are each and every single negative entity that walk toward Infinite Intelligence through the negative path, you won't grasp the Law of One nor the negative path. Ra does not disminishes negative entities nor their purpose, he clearly states that all is one many times while speaking of that path, that it happens out of free will to bring further experiences to infinity. That there is not a single thing in this Universe that is not Light and Love.

The primary role of negative entities is to reflect imbalances, you see what you want to see in them and it is in fact about you.

Here's my tips for you.

10.14 Questioner: For general development [of the] reader of this book, could you state some of the practices or exercises to perform to produce an acceleration toward the Law of One?

Ra: I am Ra.

Exercise One. This is the most nearly centered and usable within your illusion complex. The moment contains love. That is the lesson/goal of this illusion or density. The exercise is to consciously seek that love in awareness and understanding distortions. The first attempt is the cornerstone. Upon this choosing rests the remainder of the life-experience of an entity. The second seeking of love within the moment begins the addition. The third seeking powers the second, the fourth powering or doubling the third. As with the previous type of empowerment, there will be some loss of power due to flaws within the seeking in the distortion of insincerity. However, the conscious statement of self to self of the desire to seek love is so central an act of will that, as before, the loss of power due to this friction is inconsequential.

Exercise Two. The universe is one being. When a mind/body/spirit complex views another mind/body/spirit complex, see the Creator. This is an helpful exercise.

Exercise Three. Gaze within a mirror. See the Creator.

Exercise Four. Gaze at the creation which lies about the mind/body/spirit complex of each entity. See the Creator.

The foundation or prerequisite of these exercises is a predilection towards what may be called meditation, contemplation, or prayer. With this attitude, these exercises can be processed. Without it, the data will not sink down into the roots of the tree of mind, thus enabling and ennobling the body and touching the spirit.

Practice exercise two, there is nothing that you are not. Maybe what you despise though is that negative entities do succeed in connecting to Intelligent Infinity. That is normal, they are the Creator providing services to the Creator. The higher the density the more the service is refined and the more one is aware of Intelligent Infinity. Everything you reject shows imbalances in you.

Why do you reject what is accepted by Intelligent Infinity?

[isis]

Heck, I'd recommend everyone spend a month or two following the lifestyle of a negative neophyte, especially if it scares you. You will come out more courteous, self-aware and definitely more humble.

*becomes a satanist*

[AnthroHeart]

Heck, I'd recommend everyone spend a month or two following the lifestyle of a negative neophyte, especially if it scares you. You will come out more courteous, self-aware and definitely more humble.

*becomes a satanist*

You'll need one of these:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyath...-entirely/

[APeacefulWarrior]

Just jumping in here, but I'm a bit surprised that Ayn Rand hasn't been mentioned.  She would seem to me to practically personify what a 6D-neg wanderer would look like.  Her entire mission in life was the elevation of the individual self/ego above all other concerns, and Atlas Shrugged is very much a parable of an "elite" few enslaving the rest of the world through backhanded means that still pay lip service to the idea of free will.

Plus, her basic paranoia regarding "collectivism" and the inevitability of it leading to a horrific ego death (from her POV) actually makes a bit more sense if she had an instinctive understanding of Oneness... and was afraid of it.  

And she behaved that way in life, too.  She formed a group of "free thinkers" which she (ironically, or so she claimed) called "The Collective," in which everyone was expected to agree with whatever she said.  She'd ruthlessly excommunicate members, even long-time friends, for even minor disagreements.  It certainly seems like she was (consciously or not) attempting to set herself up as the ruling ego of her own physical/3D social-memory complex.

She even went so far as to write a book attempting to prove that her *taste in art* was Objectively correct.

Given how popular she became in America, she may have even been one of the most "successful" negative Wanderers, in terms of doing the work she meant to do.  She eventually succumbed to total paranoia in her last decade or so, but spent most of her life quite lucid.

(And, in fairness, living through the October Revolution on the Czarist side must have truly sucked, especially for a young girl without any real understanding of what was happening.)

[dreamliner]

dreamliner, your quotes do not apply. You take one exemple that fits in an indirect way what you're saying and dismiss the whole LOO message that says otherwise in a direct manner.

That's exactly what you have been doing since the beginning of this thread. And most of the "verses" you've been throwing out in this thread have nothing to do with the Law of One, the Ra material.

Below are some of the fallacies you've been applying -instinctually I guess- to distort the already established facts:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kettle_logic

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_by_assertion

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circular_reasoning

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy_of...of_context