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    #151
    05-12-2015, 04:52 AM (This post was last modified: 05-12-2015, 05:06 AM by Aion.)
    (05-12-2015, 02:25 AM)Minyatur Wrote:
    (05-12-2015, 02:19 AM)Tan.rar Wrote:
    (05-12-2015, 02:15 AM)Minyatur Wrote: How have we known each other? I do not know why but this sounds important.

    From what you said it sounds like I was under you yet that does resonate as accurate.

    Not under per se, but it was I who awoke you to the darkness and made you crave its power. After that, you did the rest on your own, as did the others. I put out a call and it was answered.

    Seems more like what I had in mind. Despite you saying that you awoke me to the darkness, I seem to think I would've joined you because I thought you were alike me. Not excluding the idea that it did change me but that prior to this change I did think you we alike me.

    When I started reading the LOO I first thought I was from a STO memory complex and tried to communicate with Ra. It just felt awkward on both ends. It's funny how I could be so far away from knowing my past.

    I resonated with the idea that I was a STS entity prior to all of this maybe a month or so ago. My higher self told me not to speak of it.

    Not sure how far I can or should explain this. Lets just say it is an art to appeal to likeness, but everything is chosen. To the average person, or maybe in general, that is fairly sound advice from your higher self.

    (Also, kinda blew my mind, but I just read that Edgar Cayce also mentioned the Sons of Belial and the Sons of the Law of One in relation to the early development of Atlantis, that's the exact same as I have perceived. I didn't know before that he had talked about that.)
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    05-12-2015, 05:37 AM
    All I have are shallow platitudes and of course my cans, my precious antique cans.  Interesting discussion this, not quite sure what to make of it.
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    05-12-2015, 07:14 AM (This post was last modified: 05-12-2015, 07:25 AM by Stranger.)
    Minyatur Wrote:I resonated with the idea that I was a STS entity prior to all of this maybe a month or so ago. My higher self told me not to speak of it.

    This is actually quite helpful to understanding your positions on a number of things.  
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    05-12-2015, 10:00 AM
    Tanner, may I ask what led you to decide to switch polarities (or whatever term you would use for the change you've made, if that is not the way you would describe it)?

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    05-12-2015, 01:43 PM (This post was last modified: 05-12-2015, 01:45 PM by Minyatur.)
    (05-12-2015, 10:00 AM)Stranger Wrote: Tanner, may I ask what led you to decide to switch polarities (or whatever term you would use for the change you've made, if that is not the way you would describe it)?

    He'll correct me if I'm wrong, but I'd say he grew old and has such the change started on it's own. At least this is what I feel to be the case for me, rather than something changing my perspective, the perspective is what changed first. Things have not become different, things were perceived diffrently.
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    05-12-2015, 06:47 PM
    (05-12-2015, 10:00 AM)Stranger Wrote: Tanner, may I ask what led you to decide to switch polarities (or whatever term you would use for the change you've made, if that is not the way you would describe it)?

    I appreciate the question. Questions from others appear to help me pinpoint information in my consciousness.

    Let me think, well, I fell in love.

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    05-12-2015, 07:05 PM (This post was last modified: 05-12-2015, 07:16 PM by Minyatur.)
    (05-12-2015, 06:47 PM)Tan.rar Wrote:
    (05-12-2015, 10:00 AM)Stranger Wrote: Tanner, may I ask what led you to decide to switch polarities (or whatever term you would use for the change you've made, if that is not the way you would describe it)?

    I appreciate the question. Questions from others appear to help me pinpoint information in my consciousness.

    Let me think, well, I fell in love.

    Do you know me to have a soul mate? I've been wondering if this is a dellusion of my current incarnation or if this is a key to where I am now.

    If so, how would you describe that entity?

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    05-12-2015, 07:46 PM
    (05-12-2015, 06:47 PM)Tan.rar Wrote:
    (05-12-2015, 10:00 AM)Stranger Wrote: Tanner, may I ask what led you to decide to switch polarities (or whatever term you would use for the change you've made, if that is not the way you would describe it)?

    I appreciate the question. Questions from others appear to help me pinpoint information in my consciousness.

    Let me think, well, I fell in love.

    I realize you have another question posed to you, but who or what did you fall in love with? And when?

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    05-12-2015, 07:49 PM
    @Lighthead I love how you're asking questions about him and I'm asking questions about myself.
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    05-12-2015, 07:55 PM
    (05-12-2015, 07:49 PM)Minyatur Wrote: @Lighthead I love how you're asking questions about him and I'm asking questions about myself.

    Lol. To be fair, I did ask him one question about myself privately. How often do we get to talk to Belial? Just kidding, Tan.rar. I didn't mean to put you on the spot!

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    05-12-2015, 08:20 PM (This post was last modified: 05-12-2015, 08:21 PM by Minyatur.)
    (05-12-2015, 07:55 PM)Lighthead Wrote:
    (05-12-2015, 07:49 PM)Minyatur Wrote: @Lighthead I love how you're asking questions about him and I'm asking questions about myself.

    Lol. To be fair, I did ask him one question about myself privately. How often do we get to talk to Belial? Just kidding, Tan.rar. I didn't mean to put you on the spot!

    At first I didn't like the idea of being one of the "sons" but then it came to me I've probably never wanted to be a leader, makes more sense if I was looking for someone to follow or aid in his own cause rather than having my own.

    I'm the kind of entity that's probably never tried to go anywhere truly for himself. Been drifting through chaos, that's all.
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    05-12-2015, 08:27 PM
    (05-12-2015, 08:20 PM)Minyatur Wrote:
    (05-12-2015, 07:55 PM)Lighthead Wrote:
    (05-12-2015, 07:49 PM)Minyatur Wrote: @Lighthead I love how you're asking questions about him and I'm asking questions about myself.

    Lol. To be fair, I did ask him one question about myself privately. How often do we get to talk to Belial? Just kidding, Tan.rar. I didn't mean to put you on the spot!

    At first I didn't like the idea of being one of the "sons" but then it came to me I've probably never wanted to be a leader, makes more sense if I was looking for someone to follow or aid in his own cause rather than having my own.

    I'm the kind of entity that's probably never tried to go anywhere truly for himself. Been drifting through chaos, that's all.

    So I'm assuming that means that you're the type of Wanderer that's been here for thousands of years. According to what he told me, I also may have been here as a Wanderer for thousands of years. At least more than two thousand.

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    05-12-2015, 08:29 PM (This post was last modified: 05-12-2015, 08:44 PM by Minyatur.)
    (05-12-2015, 08:27 PM)Lighthead Wrote: So I'm assuming that means that you're the type of Wanderer that's been here for thousands of years. According to what he told me, I also may have been here as a Wanderer for thousands of years. At least more than two thousand.

    I think as a repolarizing wanderer, this is my 7th incarnation. Unlike him I remember not much other than what I think I need to know. I'm exploring Oneness and as such knowing too much is very limiting to explore an objective perspective of the all. What I know is that within my heart chakra seems to be an abyss of sorrow and that's pretty much all I need to know about my past as a whole.

    Unlike Tan I do not think my higher self's purpose to be to make things right but rather become part of the Council of Saturn not that I have currently any idea of how that is meant to happen. My feeling of the council is that in the past they've been very constaining.
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    05-12-2015, 11:08 PM
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    05-13-2015, 12:31 AM (This post was last modified: 05-13-2015, 11:49 AM by VanAlioSaldo.)
    (05-07-2015, 05:29 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I believe I am more mystical than my atheist friend. But I don't know how to face myself. I try, and am not really confronted by my shadow self.

    I once made an attempt to literally sit down and talk with my shadow self. He refused. I tried to conversate, he didn't want to talk.

    I gave in to my shadow self in the sense that I surrendered myself to him and him to myself followed in suit.

    Now we're a bit on iffy terms but there's some communication. You may find your shadow self isn't truly dark, just stuffed into darkness and unhappy with you for doing that to him.

    At least, that's how it was for me, we both have changed and need to work together again eventually.

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    05-13-2015, 12:39 AM
    (05-13-2015, 12:31 AM)VanAlioSaldo Wrote:
    (05-07-2015, 05:29 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I believe I am more mystical than my atheist friend. But I don't know how to face myself. I try, and am not really confronted by my shadow self.

    I once made an attempt to literally sit down and ralk with my shadow self.  He refused.  I tried to conversate, didn't want to talk.

    I gave in to my shadow self in the sense that i surrendered myself to him and him to myself followed in suit.

    Now we're a bit on iffy terms butthere's some communication.  You may find your shadow self isn't truly dark, just stuffed into darkness and unhappy with you for doing that to him.

    At least, that's how it was for me, we both have changed and need to work together again eventually.

    I like how you talk about your shadow self as if it's a flesh and blood person. It sounds very guileless.

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    05-13-2015, 12:39 AM (This post was last modified: 05-13-2015, 11:50 AM by VanAlioSaldo.)
    (05-07-2015, 01:20 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I believe Ra said that your 3 primary rays have to be in balance to be harvestable.
    Is this red, yellow and blue, or red green and blue?

    Do you have to be at the 4th subdensity, vibrating in at least your heart chakra?

    I ask because that's what I think I am.

    Sigh.  Phone...

    As I see it.

    Prerequisites to Harvestability:
    Make your Choice
    Minimally Balance Primary Rays - Red, Yellow, Blue (this basically means open the Green Ray, for Blue Ray works automatically with green open)
    Attain either 51% STO, or 95% STS (minus green ray balancing)

    Everything else is additional stuff to aid you but the true work comes in deciding how you'll Be as a Being towards your self and/or (literally) others.

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    05-13-2015, 12:44 AM (This post was last modified: 05-13-2015, 11:51 AM by VanAlioSaldo.)
    (05-13-2015, 12:39 AM)Lighthead Wrote:
    (05-13-2015, 12:31 AM)VanAlioSaldo Wrote:
    (05-07-2015, 05:29 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I believe I am more mystical than my atheist friend. But I don't know how to face myself. I try, and am not really confronted by my shadow self.

    I once made an attempt to literally sit down and ralk with my shadow self.  He refused.  I tried to conversate, didn't want to talk.

    I gave in to my shadow self in the sense that i surrendered myself to him and him to myself followed in suit.

    Now we're a bit on iffy terms butthere's some communication.  You may find your shadow self isn't truly dark, just stuffed into darkness and unhappy with you for doing that to him.

    At least, that's how it was for me, we both have changed and need to work together again eventually.

    I like how you talk about your shadow self as if it's a flesh and blood person. It sounds very guileless.
    You are your shadow self. There is no differentiation, one aspect you shoved out of the open away as if ashamed or scared to let it be seen. One aspect remains present and in the open to be shown and revealed. One aspect is as is and as you believe yourself to be. One aspect is how you are mentally. One aspect emotionally. One aspect is Red Ray, another Blue Ray.

    Guileless. Its closer to In-Plain Sight Unseen.
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    #169
    05-13-2015, 03:17 AM
    (05-12-2015, 07:05 PM)Minyatur Wrote:
    (05-12-2015, 06:47 PM)Tan.rar Wrote:
    (05-12-2015, 10:00 AM)Stranger Wrote: Tanner, may I ask what led you to decide to switch polarities (or whatever term you would use for the change you've made, if that is not the way you would describe it)?

    I appreciate the question. Questions from others appear to help me pinpoint information in my consciousness.

    Let me think, well, I fell in love.

    Do you know me to have a soul mate? I've been wondering if this is a dellusion of my current incarnation or if this is a key to where I am now.

    If so, how would you describe that entity?

    You have many soul mates but you are looking for one in particular, one you were estranged from it seems. I get a general sense of sorrow and an aura of love lost and promises broken.

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    05-13-2015, 03:23 AM
    (05-12-2015, 01:43 PM)Minyatur Wrote:
    (05-12-2015, 10:00 AM)Stranger Wrote: Tanner, may I ask what led you to decide to switch polarities (or whatever term you would use for the change you've made, if that is not the way you would describe it)?

    He'll correct me if I'm wrong, but I'd say he grew old and has such the change started on it's own. At least this is what I feel to be the case for me, rather than something changing my perspective, the perspective is what changed first. Things have not become different, things were perceived diffrently.

    Hello Minyutar this is always the case for you know there is only one:p

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    05-13-2015, 03:49 AM
    (05-12-2015, 07:46 PM)Lighthead Wrote:
    (05-12-2015, 06:47 PM)Tan.rar Wrote:
    (05-12-2015, 10:00 AM)Stranger Wrote: Tanner, may I ask what led you to decide to switch polarities (or whatever term you would use for the change you've made, if that is not the way you would describe it)?

    I appreciate the question. Questions from others appear to help me pinpoint information in my consciousness.

    Let me think, well, I fell in love.

    I realize you have another question posed to you, but who or what did you fall in love with? And when?

    I fell in love with one of the goddesses whom I corrupted the image of. In fact, it is the corrupted form of her image from which is drawn the name Belial. I am not sure to be honest when I fell in love with her but I will share that I have found her again in this life and no matter what seems to be going on and I can't stop myself from loving her more every day.

    It was just before the war in Atlantis that I became part of the family of beings who resided over this planet, the realms of the so-called 'pantheons'. I was adopted in but something happened to me just before that that has to do with why I started on the journey to re-polarize. It feels kind of strange in my mind, I can't quite place it, it's something that happened simultaneously in multiple of my lives at once. I can only describe it to the extent that "the One intervened". Not something I can fully explain yet.

    It wasn't until after Atlantis that I actually became acquainted with the goddess in question (although I had already corrupted her image since I knew of her) but I do get the strange feeling I fell in love with her long before that. Maybe the fact that she was a love goddess meant her image could never be totally corrupted because she was too pure in her love. Something I am still trying to understand myself.
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    05-13-2015, 03:58 AM
    (05-13-2015, 03:49 AM)Tan.rar Wrote:
    (05-12-2015, 07:46 PM)Lighthead Wrote:
    (05-12-2015, 06:47 PM)Tan.rar Wrote:
    (05-12-2015, 10:00 AM)Stranger Wrote: Tanner, may I ask what led you to decide to switch polarities (or whatever term you would use for the change you've made, if that is not the way you would describe it)?

    I appreciate the question. Questions from others appear to help me pinpoint information in my consciousness.

    Let me think, well, I fell in love.

    I realize you have another question posed to you, but who or what did you fall in love with? And when?

    I fell in love with one of the goddesses whom I corrupted the image of. In fact, it is the corrupted form of her image from which is drawn the name Belial. I am not sure to be honest when I fell in love with her but I will share that I have found her again in this life and no matter what seems to be going on and I can't stop myself from loving her more every day.

    It was just before the war in Atlantis that I became part of the family of beings who resided over this planet, the realms of the so-called 'pantheons'. I was adopted in but something happened to me just before that that has to do with why I started on the journey to re-polarize. It feels kind of strange in my mind, I can't quite place it, it's something that happened simultaneously in multiple of my lives at once. I can only describe it to the extent that "the One intervened". Not something I can fully explain yet.

    It wasn't until after Atlantis that I actually became acquainted with the goddess in question (although I had already corrupted her image since I knew of her) but I do get the strange feeling I fell in love with her long before that. Maybe the fact that she was a love goddess meant her image could never be totally corrupted because she was too pure in her love. Something I am still trying to understand myself.

    In the above statements, you are saying that you were being initated to the pantheon that ruled the planet? and as this was commencing, the one intervened? The goddess you speak of being corrupted by your own vision, and this goddess pertaining to the icon of love? Seems like you corrupted/undermined your own love.

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    05-13-2015, 04:05 AM
    (05-13-2015, 03:58 AM)Indigo Light Wrote:
    (05-13-2015, 03:49 AM)Tan.rar Wrote:
    (05-12-2015, 07:46 PM)Lighthead Wrote:
    (05-12-2015, 06:47 PM)Tan.rar Wrote:
    (05-12-2015, 10:00 AM)Stranger Wrote: Tanner, may I ask what led you to decide to switch polarities (or whatever term you would use for the change you've made, if that is not the way you would describe it)?

    I appreciate the question. Questions from others appear to help me pinpoint information in my consciousness.

    Let me think, well, I fell in love.

    I realize you have another question posed to you, but who or what did you fall in love with? And when?

    I fell in love with one of the goddesses whom I corrupted the image of. In fact, it is the corrupted form of her image from which is drawn the name Belial. I am not sure to be honest when I fell in love with her but I will share that I have found her again in this life and no matter what seems to be going on and I can't stop myself from loving her more every day.

    It was just before the war in Atlantis that I became part of the family of beings who resided over this planet, the realms of the so-called 'pantheons'. I was adopted in but something happened to me just before that that has to do with why I started on the journey to re-polarize. It feels kind of strange in my mind, I can't quite place it, it's something that happened simultaneously in multiple of my lives at once. I can only describe it to the extent that "the One intervened". Not something I can fully explain yet.

    It wasn't until after Atlantis that I actually became acquainted with the goddess in question (although I had already corrupted her image since I knew of her) but I do get the strange feeling I fell in love with her long before that. Maybe the fact that she was a love goddess meant her image could never be totally corrupted because she was too pure in her love. Something I am still trying to understand myself.

    In the above statements, you are saying that you were being initated to the pantheon that ruled the planet? and as this was commencing, the one intervened? The goddess you speak of being corrupted by your own vision, and this goddess pertaining to the icon of love?  Seems like you corrupted/undermined your own love.

    That is astutely perceptive. Perhaps a recapitulation of the distortion of the Creator's love or its expression.

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    05-13-2015, 04:06 AM (This post was last modified: 05-13-2015, 04:13 AM by Indigo Light. Edit Reason: gramatical, spelling issues. )
    I myself feel a strange affinity for the story you just layed out. I know that, I haven't always been an sto being. I have mended a fair portion, but deep within my being, I find great sorrow. To the extent I feel spiritually exhausted, from morning to night. To be completely honest, the way my higher chakras are over-activated, and the disarray of my lower. I feel a story close to the one layed out by Ra pertaining to Hitler. Is close to what I have done. Not to say I am Hitler, or bereaved such atrocities. I am saying energetically speaking, the summary of Hitlers chakra imbalance. Seems to fit well with myself. I am currently in the process of balancing these lower chakras. It is to the extent that I feel buzzing in my pineal all day, and never a sensation in my root. In the past, I have had an insatiable appetite for sex, in the past year, I have brought this into balance. I believe my greatest imbalances lie within my root and orange. I know an imbalance in one leads to all. in-root-out-in orange-out-in yellow out.
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    05-13-2015, 04:17 AM
    In fact, it is the corrupted form of her image from which is drawn the name Belial. I am not sure to


    Would you say this Belial is congruent with Baal (mind my spelling please) from the bible?
    Also something about your energy feels like we have been enemies. Or atleast competitors.

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    05-13-2015, 04:28 AM
    (05-13-2015, 04:17 AM)Indigo Light Wrote: In fact, it is the corrupted form of her image from which is drawn the name Belial. I am not sure to


    Would you say this Belial is congruent with Baal (mind my spelling please) from the bible?
    Also something about your energy feels like we have been enemies. Or atleast competitors.

    Ba'al is another name taken from a corrupted image but that name was taken later. You wouldn't perhaps say that they are congruent but are of a similar nature in that they are both from corrupted images. I have made a lot of enemies and a lot of friends on this planet so neither surprise me. I am also a sort of bellicose entity in general inside and my nature itself perhaps comes across as a little aggressive.

    That being said, perhaps you are right, there are many I have faced off with.
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    05-13-2015, 04:29 AM
    Also you stated you fall in love with her more and more everday? Do you mean the corrupt aforementioned corrupted form? Or the true form. Which I believe is Love. If I over-step just let me know. I do not intend to push free-will. I find you very interesting tan.rar

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    05-13-2015, 04:30 AM
    (05-13-2015, 04:06 AM)Indigo Light Wrote: I myself feel a strange affinity for the story you just layed out. I know that, I haven't always been an sto being. I have mended a fair portion, but deep within my being, I find great sorrow. To the extent I feel spiritually exhausted, from morning to night. To be completely honest, the way my higher chakras are over-activated, and the disarray of my lower. I feel a story close to the one layed out by Ra pertaining to Hitler. Is close to what I have done. Not to say I am Hitler, or bereaved such atrocities. I am saying energetically speaking, the summary of Hitlers chakra imbalance. Seems to fit well with myself. I am currently in the process of balancing these lower chakras. It is to the extent that I feel buzzing in my pineal all day, and never a sensation in my root. In the past, I have had an insatiable appetite for sex, in the past year, I have brought this into balance. I believe my greatest imbalances lie within my root and orange. I know an imbalance in one leads to all. in-root-out-in orange-out-in yellow out.

    I think many of us have come to this place to heal our sorrow together.
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    #179
    05-13-2015, 04:37 AM
    I definitely agree with this. Would you say, that you find/found, sorrow. Close to what I describe?

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    #180
    05-13-2015, 04:55 AM
    (05-13-2015, 04:29 AM)Indigo Light Wrote: Also you stated you fall in love with her more and more everday? Do you mean the corrupt aforementioned corrupted form? Or the true form. Which I believe is Love. If I over-step just let me know. I do not intend to push free-will. I find you very interesting tan.rar

    I mean the goddess whom is Love. She is a being, a person and the love of my life. It was her that lead me to much of my remembrance because she remembers so much more clearly. In otherwords, I am now with the incarnation of this goddess and we have a history of lives together which we are remembering more and more of.

    The corruption of the images came only from a love of myself. It is through her that I discovered the love for another.

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