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    Minyatur (Offline)

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    #121
    06-08-2015, 12:28 PM
    (06-08-2015, 12:25 PM)Tan.rar Wrote: Keep in mind that I already tried, in an extreme way, the approach to try and just let these things hang around 'for their benefit'. It was quickly taken advantage of and I am still healing myself from the damage I opened myself to.

    Well in my case the entity does not do much to me. Except that it made me feel it's soul which I thought not as bad. I just thought it sucks to be that entity.

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    Aion (Offline)

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    #122
    06-08-2015, 12:29 PM
    Sure, so shouldn't balanced compassion include both?

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    #123
    06-08-2015, 12:30 PM
    (06-08-2015, 12:29 PM)Tan.rar Wrote: Sure, so shouldn't balanced compassion include both?

    Balanced compassion needs to be worked out, not acted impulsively.

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    #124
    06-08-2015, 12:31 PM
    (06-08-2015, 12:30 PM)Minyatur Wrote:
    (06-08-2015, 12:29 PM)Tan.rar Wrote: Sure, so shouldn't balanced compassion include both?

    Balanced compassion needs to be worked out, not acted impulsively.

    Don't make assumptions, my friend.

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    #125
    06-08-2015, 12:33 PM
    (06-08-2015, 12:31 PM)Tan.rar Wrote:
    (06-08-2015, 12:30 PM)Minyatur Wrote:
    (06-08-2015, 12:29 PM)Tan.rar Wrote: Sure, so shouldn't balanced compassion include both?

    Balanced compassion needs to be worked out, not acted impulsively.

    Don't make assumptions, my friend.

    I'm talking about myself.

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    Aion (Offline)

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    #126
    06-08-2015, 12:36 PM
    (06-08-2015, 12:33 PM)Minyatur Wrote:
    (06-08-2015, 12:31 PM)Tan.rar Wrote:
    (06-08-2015, 12:30 PM)Minyatur Wrote:
    (06-08-2015, 12:29 PM)Tan.rar Wrote: Sure, so shouldn't balanced compassion include both?

    Balanced compassion needs to be worked out, not acted impulsively.

    Don't make assumptions, my friend.

    I'm talking about myself.

    All the same, really.

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    #127
    06-08-2015, 12:37 PM
    (06-08-2015, 12:36 PM)Tan.rar Wrote:
    (06-08-2015, 12:33 PM)Minyatur Wrote:
    (06-08-2015, 12:31 PM)Tan.rar Wrote:
    (06-08-2015, 12:30 PM)Minyatur Wrote:
    (06-08-2015, 12:29 PM)Tan.rar Wrote: Sure, so shouldn't balanced compassion include both?

    Balanced compassion needs to be worked out, not acted impulsively.

    Don't make assumptions, my friend.

    I'm talking about myself.

    All the same, really.

    I meant that if I want to make use of balanced compassion, I need to work out what I truly think is best.

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    #128
    06-08-2015, 12:42 PM
    If I feel sad for the entity and would simply feel sadder for casting it away when it sought my prescence, how would that be good?

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    Aion (Offline)

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    #129
    06-08-2015, 12:42 PM (This post was last modified: 06-08-2015, 12:43 PM by Aion.)
    Well of course, each has to decide their own course of action.

    Sadness is something we each have to understand for ourselves I suppose.

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    #130
    06-08-2015, 12:55 PM
    However, consider why that entity is sad and suffering. It likely already feels some degree of separation. Maybe it has come to you to find a way back to itself, the Creator.

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    #131
    06-08-2015, 12:58 PM
    (06-08-2015, 12:55 PM)Tan.rar Wrote: However, consider why that entity is sad and suffering. It likely already feels some degree of separation. Maybe it has come to you to find a way back to itself, the Creator.

    I'm not sure what you meant by returning it to Intelligent Infinity. I mean I can perceive I can keep it away from my home but I can't stop it from going anywhere else on earth.

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    #132
    06-08-2015, 01:08 PM
    Banishment isn't about telling it to go away, it's about returning it to its own natural state and space. It isn't entirely 'itself'. It is not just for you but is also meant to be a karmically beneficent action towards the entity in the attempt to offer it itself without martyring yourself for it.

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    #133
    06-08-2015, 01:28 PM
    (06-08-2015, 01:08 PM)Tan.rar Wrote: Banishment isn't about telling it to go away, it's about returning it to its own natural state and space. It isn't entirely 'itself'. It is not just for you but is also meant to be a karmically beneficent action towards the entity in the attempt to offer it itself without martyring yourself for it.

    So if I perform a banishing ritual and the stupid entity remains close to me, it get sent away from this time/space?

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    #134
    06-08-2015, 03:01 PM (This post was last modified: 06-08-2015, 04:42 PM by Parsons. Edit Reason: grammar )
    @Plenum and Tanner re: training aids

    Wow... I've finally understood the root cause of my panic/anxiety. I have been told multiple times by different people that the cause of my panic attacks are a resistance to change. I never fully understood what that meant until now.

    I don't want to sound arrogant but in comparison to when I first awoke and even the average seeker, I have acquired an enormous amount of intellectual knowledge AND understanding about the True Nature of Things. I learned such a great deal of information and changed so much in 3-4 years, but because of my breakneck pace of learning, I have not put into practice a huge chunk of that knowledge into my day to day life. I integrated some of what I learned into every day experience, but for a lot it I was afraid to change. Change is often associated with fear/death; thus the souring of the training aid and my panic attacks where I have an acute fear of death.

    To be clear, the majority of the training aids I used were various channeled materials (Ra, Seth, Bashar). I also dabbled a bit with DMT/entheogens very briefly but didn't seem to get any knowledge out of it. The same is/was true with my brief forays into ritual magic. The only other training aid that I feel I got anything out of is my twice daily supplement of gotu kola. My intuition is much sharper than I thought possible. I feel that's been the only responsible/natural training aid I have used. It seems that my intuition gradually filters information to me only when I am ready.

    Plenum hit the nail on the head when he described this as trauma. It has been more difficult and painful dealing with this than my motorcycle accident (shattered right femur, almost died, months/years recovery) and severe childhood/young adulthood depression combined.

    I will speculate that this is probably what happened to Aleister Crowley and perhaps even Don Elkins.

    I agree that a warning is appropriate. If you seek knowledge, be prepared to change your life in ways you can't predict ahead of time.

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    #135
    06-08-2015, 03:23 PM
    Tan, would you say it would be beneficial to my healing / integration to regularly practice the LBRP? It seems like having parasitic astral entities hanging around me can't help.

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    #136
    06-08-2015, 04:39 PM
    (06-08-2015, 01:28 PM)Minyatur Wrote:
    (06-08-2015, 01:08 PM)Tan.rar Wrote: Banishment isn't about telling it to go away, it's about returning it to its own natural state and space. It isn't entirely 'itself'. It is not just for you but is also meant to be a karmically beneficent action towards the entity in the attempt to offer it itself without martyring yourself for it.

    So if I perform a banishing ritual and the stupid entity remains close to me, it get sent away from this time/space?

    Yes but it isn't necessarily permanent, especially if there is some part of you that calls the entity back or receives it. This is why repetition is important because eventually you will have a filter that will automatically recognize what isn't beneficent.
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    #137
    06-08-2015, 04:41 PM
    (06-08-2015, 03:23 PM)Parsons Wrote: Tan, would you say it would be beneficial to my healing / integration to regularly practice the LBRP? It seems like having parasitic astral entities hanging around me can't help.

    Yes, every day in the same place and same way if you can.

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    #138
    06-08-2015, 04:57 PM
    (06-08-2015, 04:39 PM)Tan.rar Wrote:
    (06-08-2015, 01:28 PM)Minyatur Wrote:
    (06-08-2015, 01:08 PM)Tan.rar Wrote: Banishment isn't about telling it to go away, it's about returning it to its own natural state and space. It isn't entirely 'itself'. It is not just for you but is also meant to be a karmically beneficent action towards the entity in the attempt to offer it itself without martyring yourself for it.

    So if I perform a banishing ritual and the stupid entity remains close to me, it get sent away from this time/space?

    Yes but it isn't necessarily permanent, especially if there is some part of you that calls the entity back or receives it. This is why repetition is important because eventually you will have a filter that will automatically recognize what isn't beneficent.

    But cannot the entity go toward someone else than me? 

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    #139
    06-08-2015, 05:11 PM
    (06-08-2015, 04:57 PM)Minyatur Wrote:
    (06-08-2015, 04:39 PM)Tan.rar Wrote:
    (06-08-2015, 01:28 PM)Minyatur Wrote:
    (06-08-2015, 01:08 PM)Tan.rar Wrote: Banishment isn't about telling it to go away, it's about returning it to its own natural state and space. It isn't entirely 'itself'. It is not just for you but is also meant to be a karmically beneficent action towards the entity in the attempt to offer it itself without martyring yourself for it.

    So if I perform a banishing ritual and the stupid entity remains close to me, it get sent away from this time/space?

    Yes but it isn't necessarily permanent, especially if there is some part of you that calls the entity back or receives it. This is why repetition is important because eventually you will have a filter that will automatically recognize what isn't beneficent.

    But cannot the entity go toward someone else than me? 

    No banishment means it has to return to it's 'home density'. Perhaps from there it could then make another move. The banishing isn't to destroy or stop the entity from existing or doing its own thing, it just maintains your own field.

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    06-08-2015, 05:23 PM (This post was last modified: 06-08-2015, 05:23 PM by Minyatur.)
    (06-08-2015, 05:11 PM)Tan.rar Wrote:
    (06-08-2015, 04:57 PM)Minyatur Wrote:
    (06-08-2015, 04:39 PM)Tan.rar Wrote:
    (06-08-2015, 01:28 PM)Minyatur Wrote:
    (06-08-2015, 01:08 PM)Tan.rar Wrote: Banishment isn't about telling it to go away, it's about returning it to its own natural state and space. It isn't entirely 'itself'. It is not just for you but is also meant to be a karmically beneficent action towards the entity in the attempt to offer it itself without martyring yourself for it.

    So if I perform a banishing ritual and the stupid entity remains close to me, it get sent away from this time/space?

    Yes but it isn't necessarily permanent, especially if there is some part of you that calls the entity back or receives it. This is why repetition is important because eventually you will have a filter that will automatically recognize what isn't beneficent.

    But cannot the entity go toward someone else than me? 

    No banishment means it has to return to it's 'home density'. Perhaps from there it could then make another move. The banishing isn't to destroy or stop the entity from existing or doing its own thing, it just maintains your own field.

    If there's an entity lurking in my house, how does cleansing my field banish it? I know you said it exists in my shadow but I'm pretty sure it can also exist in others' shadow. 

    So even if I make a banishing ritual, won't it go to my sister instead for exemple?

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    06-08-2015, 05:54 PM
    Well no, one of the benefits of the ritual is that it extends to the space in which you do it. Plus your sister may not have the same distortions as you which attracted the entity. It's also possible to do a banishing for someone else but the technique is a little more advanced.

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    06-08-2015, 05:58 PM
    (06-08-2015, 05:54 PM)Tan.rar Wrote: Well no, one of the benefits of the ritual is that it extends to the space in which you do it. Plus your sister may not have the same distortions as you which attracted the entity. It's also possible to do a banishing for someone else but the technique is a little more advanced.

    I guess I should start with myself.

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    06-08-2015, 06:02 PM
    Usually a good place to start! You will probably come to understand the nature more if you try it out. Magic takes practice and experimenting.

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    06-08-2015, 06:09 PM
    (06-08-2015, 06:02 PM)Tan.rar Wrote: Usually a good place to start! You will probably come to understand the nature more if you try it out. Magic takes practice and experimenting.

    Two things I dislike.

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    06-08-2015, 08:30 PM
    Neither are conducive to laziness.

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    06-08-2015, 08:51 PM
    (06-08-2015, 08:30 PM)Tan.rar Wrote: Neither are conducive to laziness.

    Imagine they make my laziness and carelessness fade away, that would spoil my whole incarnation.

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    06-08-2015, 09:02 PM
    All depends what you expect.

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    06-08-2015, 09:04 PM (This post was last modified: 06-08-2015, 09:06 PM by Minyatur.)
    (06-08-2015, 09:02 PM)Tan.rar Wrote: All depends what you expect.

    I guess to find myself, but that does not mean I'm a fun person unveiled, maybe I'm a hardworking person and that would be dull. 

    Maybe unveiled I will be like professor chaos and will work hard to destroy this world.

    This world will be flooded by me ahahaha

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    06-08-2015, 09:10 PM
    Hard work can be fun if you are working hard on something you care about. All depends how you choose to shape yourself.

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    06-08-2015, 09:11 PM (This post was last modified: 06-08-2015, 09:34 PM by Minyatur.)
    (06-08-2015, 09:10 PM)Tan.rar Wrote: Hard work can be fun if you are working hard on something you care about. All depends how you choose to shape yourself.

    Can such a small human experience actually shape something? It feels like a movie I decided to live into.

    Never mind, I acutally know what my experience adds.

    You should watch south park friend, best human show this planet has to offer.

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