2008.02.28 - Experience being harvested

[carrie]

They suggest that immediately after our natural death, we will walk steps of light. Each step contains a denser light. At a certain step, the light becomes fourth-density light. After that, all the steps are in fourth density. We walk these steps until to go further would be to move into light that makes us uncomfortable. If we have stopped on the steps offering fourth-density light, we have graduated and can move on to fourth density. If we have stopped on the steps offering third-density light, we will move on to another third-density planet to repeat “third grade” in this refinery of souls which the Confederation cosmology predicates.

Hi,
This is my near death experience that happened three weeks ago.

I am sleeping and woke up in a tunnel. The tunnel had a small light at the end of it, I was trying to see beyond the light.

I walked towards the light. The light got brighter and brighter, like pure white and as I walked, the light engulfed the whole tunnel.

Suddenly the whole place became pure white, whiter than snow, whiter than the clouds in the sky.

There was a sensation of love, like pure love, like the feeling of love all over the place. The love was so strong, so intense, it's like I've never felt this kind of love before.

The light became visible and I started walking and walking. As I walked, the light became more and more intense.

The love became more and more intense. The feeling of love is like the hottest day in summer, but the feeling is feeling of pure love, like as if there was love all over the place and pouring into you.

Suddenly, there was some melodious music all around the place and it was the most amazing music I ever heard. The music was very melodious, in harmony with the light and love.

I walked more and more, the love / light seeped into my feet and started to go more and more into me.

I don't know but I felt like this sensation of flying...

I walked until I stopped, then I asked the light if I could go back for a moment (and finish some things before I go back)

I felt sad and if I went onwards, I would lose all my earthly possessions, the wealth I had, all the nice things I had, I could not bring it there. I wish there was an internet connection there

The only thing that mattered was the love given in my lifetime

Now I am back, I write this here to motivate others to continue in their journey into love/light.

[AnthroHeart]

Thanks for sharing your experience. It does help to make clear what the experience may be like. Though it's probably a very individual thing. I hope when I get to that place I don't have regrets or attachments.

[Lavazza]

Brilliant, Carrie. Thanks for sharing! Has this experience changed your outlook much, or I suppose it just reinforced what you already believed?

[carrie]

I hope when I get to that place I don't have regrets or attachments.

My experience of the light is extremely intense and the sensation of love is extremely warm.

If you continue walking -

- the heat of the light is like you got scalded by hot water and light of a day in midday summer
- the warmth of the love is like nothing I've ever experienced on earth.

Unless you are prepared, there is no way you can continue onwards without feeling extremely hot / extremely warm.

experience changed your outlook much

I don't know that answer. I cannot say, except I felt I hope to finish a love project I started which can benefit thousands of people.

[Questioner]

Carrie, that sounds like a deeply powerful experience. Thank you for sharing it with us.

If your NDE was associated with a medical circumstance, I hope that all helpful treatment is available and effective for you.

Do you think that your experience matched what Ra describes of Harvest as "walking the steps of light?" Or do you think it was something other than Harvest?

[carrie]

walking the steps of light? Or do you think it was something other than Harvest?

I know of no other description which matches the location I was in.
(I may be wrong or I don't know)

[Namaste]

That's an incredible experience carrie - thanks for sharing. It must be a huge motivator for you to share love in each moment. Inspirational!

[AnthroHeart]

Carrie, did you get a sense of, that at a certain level, it would have been next density? Do you feel you could have handled the intensity related to fourth density?

[Ashim]

Thanks for staying with us Carrie. I think that this is how Harvest feels.
A 6th Density wanderer may repolarise to the extreme during the incarnation. This in my opinion would account for the steps of Light that you experienced.
Please remember to fully heal yourself before attempting to heal Other Selves.
I have a sneaky feeling (in my gut) that this is going to be the start of a wonderful space/time for you.
What about your idea?

[carrie]

did you get a sense of, that at a certain level, it would have been next density? Do you feel you could have handled the intensity related to fourth density?

The size of the area is huge. You need to walk until the place is extremely* white and extremely* lovingly warm.
* according to my definition

The intensity relating to the 4th density is like:

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3rd density |<------- warm love/light -------> very warm love/light ----> very very warm love/light ----> 

very very very warm love light ---------> very very very very warm love/light ----> 

extremely loving/light --->| 4th density. 


PHP Code:

where:
- warm love/light = intense feeling of love, the warm of the hottest day in summer, the light of the hottest day in summer

- very warm love/light = very intense feeling of love, the warm of the hottest day in very hot summer, the light of the hottest day in very hot summer

....

- extremely loving/light = intense feeling of love, the feeling like you are very near scalding water, you looking at a very very bright light source 


I (personally) do not think anyone can withstand it without taking effort to show love/light in their current life here.

[litllady]

Thank you for sharing Carrie. Health wise, are things ok with you? I have been picking up on the idea that you feel you are gong to 'leave' here soon? If there are health issues, I hope you are not passing up the chance to get things checked out!

Do you feel that to move on...that you needed to learn how to detach from the material things that you longed to bring with you? Do you feel that to move forward in that light, that we need to be willing to abandon the self and life of flesh>?

If my questions are too personal, just disregard them.

Do you feel this experience was to show you something in that we all may need to work on detaching from things of material and flesh?

[peelstreetguy]

Carrie, thank you for sharing this. Extremely interesting! I am very curious as to the context in which this happened to you, unless it's too personal. Is there anything else you can relate about the experience.

I think you have many of us very curious.

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I seem to remember a Q'uo session where they stated that the steps of light that Ra refered to, as being metaphorical. Can anyone find that quote or does anyone else remember reading that?

[Brittany]

Awesome experience. I've had dreams of dying where I was floating in a bright, white light after leaving my body. Hope it's really that peaceful.

The only thing here I really wish I could take with me is my crystal collection. My crystals are people to me...they all have their own personalities and they talk to me in their own way. I love them like they are my children. Sometimes I worry that once I die, someone will just shove them on a shelf and not appreciate them for their unique personalities. Whenever I get around to writing a will I'm definitely going to be very specific about where my babies go. I've stored a lot of love in them, and maybe that could help someone else.

[@ndy]

Ahktu, how lovely, Carrie thank you for sharing your precious story!

I'm having many many dreams about 'materialism' at the moment. There tying in hugely with synchronicities in my life.
I'm also hearing heart breaking stories from friends who are struggling with 'money'

I wonder if there’s a general energy around materialism and money at the moment? I certainly feel I want to ditch all material things and fly.

[AnthroHeart]

I just read a quote: "RA: The nature of vibration is such that it may be seen as having mathematically straight or narrow steps. These steps may be seen as having boundaries. Within each boundary there are infinite gradations of vibration or color. However, as one approaches a boundary, an effort must be made to cross that boundary."

From David Wilcock's guide to the Law of One: http://divinecosmos.com/index.php/start-...tion-three

So before I hadn't realized that between each is a boundary that must be crossed. I had thought they blended into one another once someone could handle a certain intensity. Perhaps this boundary you experienced as the scalding water.

@ndy, I too get the feeling of wanting to just ditch everything. I am at times tired, and desire to fly as they say. But I am also determined to stick here through 2012, as I fought hard to get here according to the Ra teachings.

[@ndy]

Gemini I'm in no hurry too leave either. I love the wonder of being alive here! I'm not sure I'm here for any harvest.... I'm just content to be.

I just see and feel so much pain attached to materialism and money. I'm a big daydreamer and see and visit in my mind worlds and ways of being with out such ties.
I struggle to see humanity in such a tangle with money (I know this is my view ) I also sense a need to break free from the ties of money and materialism, but with a feeling of being unable to do so.
My dreams reflect this too me…. but I see this in others too.

The boundary comment is interesting as I’d thought it as blending too.

[Aaron]

Carrie, thank you for sharing your experience, and I'm glad you're still here with us!

A couple of things you've said here, such as "The only thing that mattered was the love given in my lifetime." and "I (personally) do not think anyone can withstand it without taking effort to show love/light in their current life here." I find extremely motivating and insightful. Thank you.

[unity100]

They suggest that immediately after our natural death, we will walk steps of light. Each step contains a denser light. At a certain step, the light becomes fourth-density light. After that, all the steps are in fourth density. We walk these steps until to go further would be to move into light that makes us uncomfortable. If we have stopped on the steps offering fourth-density light, we have graduated and can move on to fourth density. If we have stopped on the steps offering third-density light, we will move on to another third-density planet to repeat “third grade” in this refinery of souls which the Confederation cosmology predicates.

the above excerpt describes the harvest method before the veil (or the locales in the galaxy which do not employ the veil) though.

[carrie]

Hi,

The only thing here I really wish I could take with me is my crystal collection.

You cannot take any 3rd density items with you. All the things like big house, big car, big bank account, lots of cash does not translate into 4th density. There are be "equivalents" there.

The only bank account (so to speak) you have there is amount of love you have given during your lifetime in 3rd density, is translated into earnings in 4th density.

Not sure about house or car. - It seems you can fly all over the place like there's no gravity there.

I had thought they blended into one another once someone could handle a certain intensity. Perhaps this boundary you experienced as the scalding water.

It is very warming, very loving there. It is also very bright (in light).

the veil

Can you kindly explain how the harvest will take place with the veil?

[unity100]

as far as what i remember from what Ra describes, it happens as a measure of how close you can get to the light. the standard being 51% positive or 95% negative.

[carrie]

how close

There are four things I remembered well: the warmth of the love, the intensity of the light, and heat that I absorbed as I went further, the steps I took.

Read post #10 again and again.

Imagine you are in an extremely warm place because of the light
Imagine you are in an extremely loving warmness, like someone hugged you a thousand times.
Imagine you are absorbing all of this love/light as you walk further.

The definition of love/light is a bit different from the earth-definition of love/light as we know it.
Everyone knows light because we see the sun-light, we use lamps, etc.

The definition of love is like as if someone hugged or loved you a thousand times stronger than human love.
We don't feel it because of the chilly weather, or the wind blowing the cooling wind, or simply emotionless.

The feeling of love is different from human love.

This kind of love is like someone who loves you so much that (someone) is willing to forgive all your sins, forgive all your errors, forgive all your mistakes, forgive everything wrong you did and say, I love you no-matter who you are.

Whoever is giving this love, (someone) is rain down love to you, and that love is thousand times stronger than any love I have emotionally felt on earth.

I believe that is what love/light, light/love actually means. The intensity of the love is so strong that it is equivalent to light that it travels along with.

Does that make sense?

[unity100]

it doesnt need to make sense to me. i just mentioned that the process you described belonged to worlds not using a veil.

[@ndy]

What a beautiful and ‘heart warming’ description

[carrie]

i just mentioned that the process

The statements I given is without proofs. You are welcome to accept or reject the statements given. I do not wish to infringe upon free will.

This is my personal experience, I shared it upon to everyone. I wish to share it with all as I cannot do a service to one and a disservice to another in regard to tell what I experienced.

Neither do I wish to add anything to what I described nor change anything to what I experienced. I just tell it without changing the facts and without "corrupting" the facts given.

I am just fortunate to say that I had the ability to go back, it might have been different - I may not have the chance to go back and probably something else might happen instead. Since I don't know, I do not wish to mention it here. There have been hints about repeating 3rd density, I guess that would be my situation.

With regard to whether it is the harvest or not, I was totally taken by surprise. One moment I was sleeping, another I was in a tunnel with a light in-front.

The experience I had, I felt is out of this world. The white being whiter than snow, the music more melodious than any music that I've ever heard, the love given is the most heart-warming, the feeling of flying and loving forgiveness I have felt.

If you have any other question, please ask.

[Xenos]

Thanks for sharing Carrie,
The experience you had awfully seems similar to what I had few months ago. I can visualize your words, feel the emotions you had as I was reading it. The only difference in my experience was the fact that it happened as soon as I started to sleep. I was stepping through the intensifying light, but I was overwhelmed with sadness, of leaving everything behind. Feelings of fear also rushed into me, as I was questioning , where was this light eminating from? I stopped right ON the border between bright - white light, and just light.

[carrie]

assorted questions and answers from others:

what kind of body is it there?

The feeling of body there is like "whiter than white", lighter than a feather. You can fly around there since gravity has little effect. It's kind of fun that you can move around so effortlessly.

The kind of speed flying around is like running very swiftly. Feels funny that you move so fast yet effortlessly glide around the place.

It's kind of unusual that if you wear glasses or slightly hard of hearing you can see very clearly, or hear very well.

not everyone is happy with the way they look for example

The thought of self-judgement that you are not so good, not so good-looking, not so rich disappears... The feeling of inferiority and not handsome enough just melts away. The warming love tells you that no matter what you look like, what your physical appearance is, whoever is raining the love down from above, loves you no matter who you are.

what about people with deformities or missing hands or legs?

The purpose is a catalyst for others to feel empathy and express kindness to them. It is also for society to look after them, even though it is a "loss" in terms of monetary terms.

if there are material possessions, like money, wealth and power, what is it for in 3rd density?

The purpose of material possessions is to learn to share things with other people.

If there are both right and wrong answers, what is the purpose of learning?
For example, someone might give wrong answers sometimes, or make wrong decisions

The purpose is to learn, as in, to learn to love. To learn to love, is to impart wisdom so that one may know the difference between the right and wrong answer. The question about right or wrong answer, is either you learn the correct answer and experience variations of the correct answer.

For example, 1+1 = 2, but in life, 1+1 is not always equal to 2. Two wrongs do not make one right.

What it is, is to see variations in the same answer. It is also important to see variations of the wrong answer, because that is how people learn. For example, similar problem in a different environment.

The main important idea is that at each moment, the person making the decision does it out of love and compassion.