Energy Patterns and Fourth Density

[thefool]

Gemini Wolf you may probably need a lot of rest, water and sunlight along with grounding food (which is Tamsic in nature). I might get yelled at by puritans here but I dare say some potato fries and Coke does the trick for me as it helps me bring back to the body and firmly into gravity.

This is just a part of bringing back into body and rest and recoup. But don't let anyone suggest to you that what you are experiencing is somehow less valid or crazy than what they have been experiencing...Sometimes the words are so ineffective in explaining our experiences and others will always have an idea from the outside, at least in 3D...We are integrated self and having experiences in multiple dimensions and in different times (future and past) and sometimes these can bleed thru the veil and overwhelm the physical mind...

[unity100]

he seems to be making a satire.

[AnthroHeart]

Thanks thefool for the confidence booster. I forgot to mention about that rule of littering is in my own Universe, not anyone else's. I have a strong stance against littering, so hence there became laws about it. The $5k fine is a 6th density law. For 5th density it's $1k. For 4th, I haven't seen a law regarding that.

Unity, I love your sense of humor.

[Steppingfeet]

Those who have responded to this thread, you are all incredible people. Your consistent orientation keeps the fire burning bright.

Reading this thread, a question about the validity of all personal experience rises to the top of my mind.

Among those with a broad range of study and experience, there is an understanding of the subjectivity, malleability, and personal nature of reality. The further I have gone along the path, the more I have iota by iota chipped away at the tendency towards judging that which is outside of my web of perceptions. In so doing, I believe I have become more open-minded, more able to accept the validity of ones assertions for themselves.

And in theory, I feel like I can and should be able to greet everyone's perceptions with the same legitimacy I view many of my own - regardless of whether or not I agree with them - especially when I take the illusory nature of all outer forms into account along with an understanding that the universe is infinite and we are all things.

But then I am confronted with a tale such as has been presented here, and I experience a conflict similar to what I believe many or most of you undergo in this and similar situations, well captured in Ali's post:

Also, I'll just be honest, I'm having some trouble with discernment. I have seen and heard many many crazy things. But your story goes above and beyond all of it. I have nothing to compare it to but to just reject it because of that doesn't seem right either.

There is a conflict between wanting to embrace all perspectives as valid and equal, especially in light of the knowledge of how provincial our own understanding is, but wanting to reject that which flies in the face of everything we know to be true.

In this particular thread, I do feel as others have stated, that GW is consciously fabricating this tale for purposes of self or potentially other-self humor. But when the far-fetched is presented as "true"...

I don't think open-mindedness extends forever. I think that boundaries must be drawn somewhere. Generally speaking, the further out those boundaries are and the less they interfere with loving the other self and seeing the Creator within them, the better.

But there must be a point when an entity departs from healthy, stable reality and rather than transcend circumstance into higher states of awareness which go beyond the body, instead regresses into some pathology or way of viewing the world which adds rather than decreases distortion.

Let's say that I was 100% sincere and told you all that I was currently existing as a french fry and described my tale of moving through opening and closing enamel rows of white blocks to be covered in liquids dissolving my form to be passed down a tube and into a sack of gastric hell. While it might prove quite an interesting yarn, and while philosophically speaking I, the entity, am the french fry in a universe of unity, would even the most open-minded indulge my delusion?

Please, I am not saying that anyone should have responded differently here! I love you all for expressing doubt without the slightest shadow cast over the love in your heart. I only wish to make the point that even open-mindedness must have its boundaries somewhere.

Perhaps nothing is "impossible" in this universe, but there must be some basis for sorting between the more and the less distorted.

I don't have the definitive answer... just the question. : )

KYAYBC,
GLB

[@ndy]

Those who have responded to this thread, you are all incredible people. Your consistent orientation keeps the fire burning bright.

Reading this thread, a question about the validity of all personal experience rises to the top of my mind.

Among those with a broad range of study and experience, there is an understanding of the subjectivity, malleability, and personal nature of reality. The further I have gone along the path, the more I have iota by iota chipped away at the tendency towards judging that which is outside of my web of perceptions. In so doing, I believe I have become more open-minded, more able to accept the validity of ones assertions for themselves.

And in theory, I feel like I can and should be able to greet everyone's perceptions with the same legitimacy I view many of my own - regardless of whether or not I agree with them - especially when I take the illusory nature of all outer forms into account along with an understanding that the universe is infinite and we are all things.

But then I am confronted with a tale such as has been presented here, and I experience a conflict similar to what I believe many or most of you undergo in this and similar situations, well captured in Ali's post:

Also, I'll just be honest, I'm having some trouble with discernment. I have seen and heard many many crazy things. But your story goes above and beyond all of it. I have nothing to compare it to but to just reject it because of that doesn't seem right either.

There is a conflict between wanting to embrace all perspectives as valid and equal, especially in light of the knowledge of how provincial our own understanding is, but wanting to reject that which flies in the face of everything we know to be true.

In this particular thread, I do feel as others have stated, that GW is consciously fabricating this tale for purposes of self or potentially other-self humor. But when the far-fetched is presented as "true"...

I don't think open-mindedness extends forever. I think that boundaries must be drawn somewhere. Generally speaking, the further out those boundaries are and the less they interfere with loving the other self and seeing the Creator within them, the better.

But there must be a point when an entity departs from healthy, stable reality and rather than transcend circumstance into higher states of awareness which go beyond the body, instead regresses into some pathology or way of viewing the world which adds rather than decreases distortion.

Let's say that I was 100% sincere and told you all that I was currently existing as a french fry and described my tale of moving through opening and closing enamel rows of white blocks to be covered in liquids dissolving my form to be passed down a tube and into a sack of gastric hell. While it might prove quite an interesting yarn, and while philosophically speaking I, the entity, am the french fry in a universe of unity, would even the most open-minded indulge my delusion?

Please, I am not saying that anyone should have responded differently here! I love you all for expressing doubt without the slightest shadow cast over the love in your heart. I only wish to make the point that even open-mindedness must have its boundaries somewhere.

Perhaps nothing is "impossible" in this universe, but there must be some basis for sorting between the more and the less distorted.

I don't have the definitive answer... just the question. : )

KYAYBC,
GLB

I duno why but this post made me laugh. May be it's my odd sense of funny
The logical side of my mind would completely agree with you 100%

Yet the things I experience here and the switch I’m making away from trusting all my logical mind would like me to believe, leaves to door open to, errrrrr infinite possibilities

Ever since I was a child I've been intrigued by others experiences of reality, for the longest time I've seen life as a game.
What is different from GW's post than say a story you may read in the Bible?

Both require an element of faith - belief in something we may not personally be able to comprehend.
The whole predicament of the human condition is utterly mind boggling, I personally feel like I'm living in some wired fantasy book at the moment.

When I read GW posts, before and after his experience - I don't get the sense of someone out to spin a yarn. I can't understand what he's experiencing, but I have 'faith' that 'he' is experiencing that.

For me at the moment my journey is breaking down old ideas mind and ego create and excepting the possibility - I don’t have all the answers and with an open heart and sense of humour tread lightly on a path of faith.

There’s no harm in getting egg on your face along the way.

[Bring4th_Steve]

I feel that the boundaries we draw are always going to be defined within the context of our earthly experiences. Since all of our experiences are different, everyone will have a different threshold as to what they believe is "ridiculous", or what they believe to be completely "reasonable".

Admittedly, I raised an eyebrow when I first read this thread, because GW's version of his own reality far surpassed anything that I have ever experienced or have read about in terms of life beyond 3rd density. For example, saying that he does not exist in 3D doesn't compute in my mind, because all I know is that I am existing in a reality that is described as 3rd density by the LOO and countless other sources of metaphysical and spiritual references.

Is this to say that he is wrong? No, because who am I to judge what is true or false in duality? Instead, I ask, "is this realistic or possible in my reality?" Since I have no other personal experience to compare GW's experience to, I can only choose to accept it on faith, or let it go and move on.

In summary, I think it's also important to consider how much we live in our egos, versus the heart. The more open I am (despite whether I actually had an experience to compare against) will determine to what extent I am willing to accept the possibility of something like GW's experiences.

And you're right, @ndy, there is never any harm in getting egg on the face. We are our own judges and critics in determining that egg has actually hit the face to begin with!

So GW... Great experiences you're having! It just happened to cross my personal boundaries based on my life experiences and decent, but unrefined LOO knowledge, so I am left to dismiss it, thank it, and move on from it!

Great concept to ponder everyone! Thanks for opening my eyes to that, Gary.
Steve

[LsavedSmeD]

I wonder why people would steal in 5th density if they can simply just manifest whatever they wanted?

I'm really confused.

I also thought food stuffs were no longer the same and something far off, something like nectar?

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I do not doubt your claims Gemini Wolf, or what you say you are experiencing to be true experiences. However, I highly doubt your 3d body has gone through the process we call death, for obvious reasons.

This made me laugh


I can't tell if this intended to be funny or a real experience that Gemini Wolf is manifesting with true belief and the Universe validating those beliefs thus creating a reality that Gemini Wolf is beginning to become align with...

[Aaron]

"So GW... Great experiences you're having! It just happened to cross my personal boundaries based on my life experiences and decent, but unrefined LOO knowledge, so I am left to dismiss it, thank it, and move on from it!"

Thank you, Steve. you've lucidly captured my thoughts on the matter, if not some others.

To.gemini: good luck with it, man! Don't get lost in it, but plumb the depths of it as much as you feel you are safely able, to bring back those gems of self love that will help you towards your goal.

[AnthroHeart]

Thanks GLB for your balanced and insightful view on my experiences. Doubts are healthy here, and even negative emotions must be expressed at times to affect balancing. Here, it's balancing the positive and negative. I had my own doubts through this experience, but with Ra's help, I burned away the imbalances in my chakras.

BTW, you'll love the music, even commercials as they tell your story here. The characters on tv are like archetypes telling our story of how we perceive the world. The music is incredible, much I hadn't heard before. So basically, the Universe will build your perfect creation by taking you through the process of creation. Then later on the training wheels come off and it is on oneself to build themselves in terms of mental focus, physical strength and spiritual insight (wisdom).

Thank you also @ndy for your continued support. I have hard teachings in 5th, so I moved back to 4th. Hard teachings are like when movies change to where they're talking to/about you in 5th or in 6th, you are in the movie/story.

LSD, in 5th, manifesting is a skill. It doesn't come automatically, but is a lot of hard work. You build yourself through resistance/catalyst. In 6th, one has superhuman strength/speed compared to 4th. When I helped my dad remove an air conditioner from a window that was fairly large, I moved my body to 6th, so I could then hold it easily. I'm going to get a weight bench to help develop my body more. 6th density is like being Data from Star Trek, except we have a whole gamut of emotional possibility.

There is way more spiritual mass now than when the Ra chanellings came. So it's a much more dense Octave. Think Unity and you've got the right thinking. Foodstuffs in a Unity octave is basically what we want to eat.

Thanks Aaron for your support as well. Yeah, I had to plumb the depths of insanity to get this far. Surrending to Creator to the point of insanity. Then coming back and re-integrating.

[AnthroHeart]

Forgot to thank you for this quote. It fits exactly with my experiece. The only thing missing is those times of choice are little tests of how much one surrenders to Creator. I went a little further in creating a galaxy that began my new Universe. I started from 1st density, which was raw energy, very hot energy. And then moved through to 8th where I used One Original Thought to hold the galaxy in balance and in stillness.

So my favorite 3 commands are:
ADD HUMILITY
INDIVIDUALIZE ME
TAKE CREATION TO STILLNESS (My is implied)

When you get to 5th, you command through whisper or just focused thought. 4th you speak commands with the authority. By 6th, the process becomes automated.

I have to take care in watching movies in higher densities like 5th. I could be watching the same movie with other people in the room, and see a totally different version of the movie. The trick is to not get wrapped up in the story.

These are my lessons before I can actually manifest new characters or such. Have to have emotional stability and stillness.

I think this might be helpful here:

Q'UO from Feb 11,2007

Consequently, your particular creation has
sometimes a dramatic difference in coloration from
the creations of some about you as you walk through
your everyday experience. When you have achieved a
sense of your own power and are dedicated to using
that power rightly, you become a force beyond the
normal run of human energy. Because you have
awakened to your potential as the creator of your
universe and because you have begun to enter into
creating the universe as you feel you would wish it to
be by acting in an ethical manner at times of choice,
you begin to develop an energy about you that is the
energy not only of your personality but of the
creation which has become imagined into being
within your life.Consequently, insofar as you have entered into this
conscious development of yourself and your
creation, you work not only for yourself but on the
level of planetary energy. The situation is not that
what you think becomes something others think. It
is that that vibration which supports your work
radiates as would the light of a lighthouse shining
out across the dark and stormy sea.
As you allow your light and your universe to shine,
you are, in your beingness, fulfilling one of your
deepest purposes: you are changing and shifting
consciousness at the planetary level. We would
emphasize that, at this level of perception, we are not
speaking of those things which can be pointed to
and spoken of in words. We are talking about the
shift of a point of view.

BTW, I won't be spending much time on this forum in the near future. I'm going to slow down and play more, fully enjoy this creation. I'll check in once a day or so, depending. Thanks for the support. I have quite a bit of catalyst I need to work through.

[peelstreetguy]

Man, I've been watching this thread for a while now and i've got to honestly say that I am completely perplexed.

-Gemini Wolf, I'm not trying to insult you, but this whole thing seems crazy to me. Perhaps you've done too much work on yourself, too fast.

-CarlS, I don't understand your post. It doesn't make any sense to me. For example, you said:

"Well back to playing a game called Catch-Up with these sneaky room temperature ghosts that travel at the speed of .......right meow arsehole! PG rated for the kids. It's always for the kids so try not growing up for a change."

What the heck does that mean?

[Ali Quadir]

Gemini. I didn't ask for permission to reject your story. I asked for your help to accept it.

I'm just going to be fully analytical here.

First question is does Gemini believe his own story. Either he does or he does not. If he does not he's having a bit of fun at our expense.. If Gemini believes his own story. The second question arises. Does he understand himself what's going on? The way he speaks he sounds convinced he understands. But this could be his subconscious pulling in Law of One concepts. If this is the case professional help is needed. If he does truly understand. And he has somehow broken through a veil. Then he should be much more in tune with us and able to explain. So explain or prove Gemini, don't put us in a position where we have to accept the word of a relative stranger on the internet.

There's an other option. The way our lightbody works some of us humans can have strange archetypes. To these people strange things happen. I've met a few. Their stories were as weird as Gemini's. My investigations led me to conclude that though their stories are impossible they do truly believe they happened and they have actual scars, behaviors and abilities that are not normal and are in line with their stories. You could say their imagination became so strong they started to leak events into the real world. I don't believe I don't disbelieve. I just know what I saw and respond to what I see.

In each of those cases however these experiences existed in their subjective space. Basically this means their lightbodies were structured to express situations that could not happen in this location in space time, yet they somehow happen to these people anyway. It doesn't happen to them from our perspective, but from theirs it does. I've seen people do strange things, and I heard from friends that they saw equally strange things happen.

Getting kidnapped by aliens is another one of those things. Being a wanderer is another one. It's just not part of city block consciousness.

My advice to you Gemini is to be silent about it. Again don't put us in a position where we have to accept the word of a relative stranger on the internet. We can't just believe you. Or we'd have to believe every other vague story out there. It's not happening from our perspectives, sharing it as you do now will only lead to trouble. Explore it for yourself. Two drawers in the mind, first of all this world, make sure you remain 100% compatible, you are rooted here, you are on this world. As real as the other one is, you belong here too. If you think this is accident and you do not belong you're rejecting your higher self's choice to come here. Second is the drawer for your private world. Explore this as you see fit. And share the lessons. But be very very critical of your own beliefs. You are essentially walking in the dark in a swamp here. Once you start analyzing and bridging properly you may find out this is not what it seemed to be to you too. Just because it's happening doesn't mean it's what you think it is.

Walking in two worlds is very hard. The easiest way is to just be two individuals.

[Xplosiw]

Haven't read the whole topic yet, but this sentence really got me:

For instance, in this 98% positive 5th density, there are pretty strict laws. For instance, the fine for littering here is up to $5000 and/or 1 year in jail.

It seems ridicilous, that 5th density would still use money. Or have prisons of any kind. Come on, it cannot be! Please, explain.

[thefool]

I'm just going to be fully analytical here.

My Friend Ali !!! in my opinion this is problem we are facing here. We are trying to be analytical to the subjective experience of another person. I agree that to the mind it sounds weird but that does not make it any less valid. We have to always remember that mind has its own limit. I think the key here is the expression of the subjective is done by the mind. The more out there the experience is, more you will have trouble expressing it using the mind. So I will just leave it as it is rather than jumping all over it and trying to make sense of it to our minds...

The only person who can truly analyze this and understand it OVER TIME is Gemini Wolf. I would just bless him and his experience so he is able to integrate it completely. The biggest help we can provide is to be with him and support him with love and light..

I am personally taking it as an expression of experience by our friend and brother Gemini Wolf... We don't have to validate it or invalidate it by trying to fit it in our framework... I think asking reasonable questions is fine, but saying it is a joke etc just affects the level of trust and feeling of safety this place is supposed to provide to the light workers, especially when we are traveling on the path less traveled...

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My advice to you Gemini is to be silent about it. Again don't put us in a position where we have to accept the word of a relative stranger on the internet. We can't just believe you.

I think we leave as it is and not try to accept or reject it. And I also think that we are more than just strangers on this site. Whatever happened to the love/light brotherhood...

[unity100]

there is a limit to subjectiveness.

person says 'my 3d body is dead', yet he is apparently incarnated and using a keyboard and a computer to communicate. moreover, he says that there are jails, DOLLAR based fines, and whatnot in 98% positive 5d.

[CircleofOne]

I agree very strongly with thefool about this. Even if Gemini's story is completely fabricated, we have no way of calculating in what ways it may be of service to another. We all probably agree that we're living in an illusory world, so why would one person's illusions be less valid than another's? Let him share in what ways he deems best for himself, each of us can decide for ourselves what to do with his gift of communication.

[unity100]

that would be akin to letting a new seeker get confused by reading that 'there is $5000 fine and jail time for littering in 5d positive'.

someone may be free to share what s/he deems best for oneself. that doesnt mean that we should sit, our mouth shut, without saying anything.

[CircleofOne]

We're not responsible for anyone getting confused but ourselves. We each have our own tools of discernment to sift through all that we encounter. Being lost and confused is part of this density. A seeker will not be eternally derailed by distortions, only enlightened by the process. Ask questions, seek answers. Another's truth may not be aligned with your own. Which is more true? Does it matter?

[unity100]

it is not as simple as that. had it been as such, ra wouldnt attempt to clear the distortions that their attempt in aiding egyptians created. they could just say 'a seeker will not be eternally derailed by distortions, only enlightened by the process' and then just get over with it. and there would be no Ra material as of now.

apparently, it was important, so that a lot of entities spared good effort and many lifetimes to be able to prepare at least one group for this contact, as evidenced by the personal information in don, Carla and Jim's past lives in book v, having spent incarnations before, and Ra saying 'they were seeking for a suitable group'.

'being lost and confused being a part of this density' does not mean that entities should confuse each other and let confuse.

[CircleofOne]

Right, but Ra is/was accounting for distortions resulting from their own actions, not attempting to account for someone else's actions and resulting distortions by showing why they think they're wrong. When the answer is not clear, and when multiple parties have different ideas of what the answer could be, there will always be confusion. We're simply not in a position of knowing to determine for anyone but ourselves if Gemini has fabricated his tale or not. And since the members of this board are extremely intelligent and experienced enough to follow their inner resonances, it would not seem that him posting his tale would cause any problems. We should certainly ask hard questions as they arise, until each has decided for themselves if his tale is worth following or not.

[unity100]

it doesnt matter whether gemini fabricated his tale, or not. there is a lot that does not fit the information we have been given as basic. and its not only about members of this board either. there are a lot more people on the internet using a website than participating in it. back a few years ago this ratio was 1 to 10 or so, generally web wide. that means for every 1 member here, there are 10 or more out there not participating, but reading. even more, there is probably a 10 times more which come and go occasionally and see bits and pieces of information which they happen to chance on. and there are probably a lot in them who started their spiritual journey recently, and can be confused by any information.

no, there is definitely a need for people to analyze and voice their opinion on these. spiritual experiences are subjective, but there is still the fact that this octave was created based on certain rules and laws that allow an organized manifestation.

if someone comes and says 'gravity doesnt exist, and everyone actually floats on buzzing balooneys because the "gooppalubbadub" spirits i saw while i was tripping/meditating/visualizing/whatever said so', you cannot just accept it or let it to go about without being objected just because its someone else's subjective opinion.

[Meerie]

It is weird… we all know the Ra material is potentially dangerous. (You all know what happened to Don, for example). And yet we all study it. Almost anything is dangerous… meditation can be dangerous if you overdo it too.
Everyone is responsible for himself / herself and reads and accepts only what resonates with them.
I do not know Gemini personally but from what I have read from him he does seem a sensible person. And experiences out of the norm can sound crazy. I am sure he will balance everything that has happened and will gain a lot of wisdom from it.
Gemini I would be happy to read about what happens next and how you integrate everything…
Unity what information he has given does not fit the Ra material? He did not say gravity does not exist, did he?

[@ndy]

I have to agree with The Fool too.

My personal feeling is that this kind of thing is likely to get more and more common as the Earth changes. The forum name is Bring 4th Not cling to 3rd

The Ra material, while fantastic is also a little a little vague on the actual transition we personally and collectively will make.
I'd imagine that things are changing quickly now and personal experiences will become more common. I think the best thing we can do is respect each others free will.
Accusing someone of fabricating, or deliberately confusing people, while it may add catalyst for them is also seems a little harsh.

You may wish to suggest that there information may infringe upon the free will of others. Yet on a forum about bringing 4th density, this would seem like an ok place to share experiences of this kind?

I'm sure it has caused us all some interesting catalyst? Dose anyone feel it has infringed on there free will?

[unity100]

Unity what information he has given does not fit the Ra material? He did not say gravity does not exist, did he?

a lot of what is contained contrast the information we have been given. he says he is dead, for example. yet, he continues to post.

[Meerie]

I think he said his 3d body was dead... there is a definition of "enlightenment" that says it is like death and rebirth...
not to be taken too literally I guess.

[Ali Quadir]

I'm just going to be fully analytical here.

My Friend Ali !!! in my opinion this is problem we are facing here. We are trying to be analytical to the subjective experience of another person.

Let me state again what I said before.

There's an other option. The way our lightbody works some of us humans can have strange archetypes. To these people strange things happen. I've met a few. Their stories were as weird as Gemini's. My investigations led me to conclude that though their stories are impossible they do truly believe they happened and they have actual scars, behaviors and abilities that are not normal and are in line with their stories. You could say their imagination became so strong they started to leak events into the real world. I don't believe I don't disbelieve. I just know what I saw and respond to what I see.

In each of those cases however these experiences existed in their subjective space. Basically this means their lightbodies were structured to express situations that could not happen in this location in space time, yet they somehow happen to these people anyway. It doesn't happen to them from our perspective, but from theirs it does. I've seen people do strange things, and I heard from friends that they saw equally strange things happen.

Did you understand what I wrote here? Because you totally ignored that point and it's very important in what I was saying. Maybe it was a bit too hard... But if you don't get that part, you don't get my position. And that would be a shame because I'm actually building a bridge to Gemini's experiences.

Point is that things happen to some people that do not exist in the world of other people. I have had similarly weird experiences, and I've seen and met people who have this going on..

As for being analytical.. You treat it like a dirty word, but if I were to just accept Gemini's word for it. The end result is going to be that I have to accept everyones word for it. And like unity says, some of the information, like dollar fines in 5d is just bonkers. This strengthens me in my belief that Gemini is in his subjective space...

You know I have what I jokingly call an imaginary friend who told me all about life the universe and everything when I was a kid. Everything he told me was either correct, or correct but made understandable to a 7 year old. I often share insights I got from this friend. But I support the information with logic or references to real world information. I do not ever ask anyone to believe any statement I made just because my imaginary friend told me so.

I'm clearly not saying that Gemini's story is a fraud. I'm clearly saying that if this is in Gemini's consciousness. Then it is relative to him, he should work with it, figure it out, and hopefully share the lessons with the rest of us.. This time supported by real world information, or sound logic. In the mean time he should not ask people to believe his story because of his lovely blue eyes. I don't ask this no one else here asks this. And many of the people who do ask this on the internet are frauds. It is common sense to require more than just a good story to become convinced of something.

What I am doing is just nonjudgmental common sense really. And my suggestion that Gemini keep this to himself is also for his own protection. I doubt people will on the whole act more accepting than I do..

There's a saying, be open minded, but not so much that your brains fall out. If Gemini has entered even only 4d, it would be trivial for him to prove his point. If he's unwilling to do that he has no business asking us to believe him.

[Xplosiw]

unity100 has great points there. This story doesn't resonate with me at all, so many details that don't fit anywhere.

[unity100]

I think he said his 3d body was dead... there is a definition of "enlightenment" that says it is like death and rebirth...
not to be taken too literally I guess.

he says his 3d body was dead. that is the definition of death on this planet.

so, his 3d body has died, and he, is now either disincarnate behind the veil, or, incarnated in somewhatever density body he is going in an out throughout all those densities, and, he is freely coming back and communicating his adventures through the use of a keyboard, a monitor, a computer and internet.

making him either a discincarnate 3d entity, or, a higher density entity (since he claims so) who is technically penetrating the quarantine on the 3d of this planet. totally leaving out the immense difficulties of manifesting in a lower vibration with a higher density body and all the stuff that would bring.

so, then, the quarantine has lifted ? or the guardians made an exception for him ?

a lot of other things like that.

and if you venture forth to the concept that is 'shouldnt be taken too literally', there is no end to that. im saying these, because im not taking those literally. but, they are told to us, as being literal.

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The Ra material, while fantastic is also a little a little vague on the actual transition we personally and collectively will make.

it isnt vague at all. it clearly and bluntly says, 'every 3d body will have to die according to necessities of this density'.

[Meerie]

so, then, the quarantine has lifted ? or the guardians made an exception for him ?
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I do not know... you should ask him not me, if you really want to know...

@ndy, you are right... this surely offers a lot of catalyst for everyone...

[AnthroHeart]

Awesome discusson team.

Edited due to distortion.