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    #31
    05-25-2019, 01:45 PM
    That is an interesting thought Flo. I do have memories of a purple planet and me having cat features but I don't feel like I come from anywhere. If anything being contained in what feels like such a solid, unpermiable individuated form is uncomfortable to me.

    Everyone comes from the one, light, so origin always seems like looking only part way back verses all the way. It is interesting the stops along the way though.
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    05-26-2019, 08:39 AM
    (05-25-2019, 11:25 AM)Diana Wrote:
    (05-24-2019, 07:37 PM)kristina Wrote: Hey Glow this is fun! We should've done this Halloween!
    Oh man I could go on and on about the ghostly encounters. I just saw a shadow last night. I told my fiance, I just saw a shadow in the den! He said, oh yeah? I said yup. LOL! We are so used to it we don't even get frightened anymore. I have turned this man's life upside down and backwards. He didn't even believe in paranormal anything. He is a believer now! Oh my gosh. Anyway, Flo and I are INFJ's (weirdos), We are all Rh negative (different) I know I am a Wanderer (aliens, lol) and my guess is Glow You are, right? Diane? Flo is a powerful 3rd density entity with some healing gifts. My knee never felt better Flo! Serious stuff ladies. And the Law of One has brought us to this meeting place to share ghost stories! Does is get better than this? No. No it does not.

    I don't know if I am a wanderer. A lot of things point to it including a psychic counselor telling me I was from Venus in 1989 (my reaction being I thought the idea was insane Tongue ). But I have had dreams of being on another planet with a particular individual since childhood so who knows and many other experiences outside the 3D box. I like to concentrate on how I can make the most of being here, because focusing on being a wanderer for me just amplifies how difficult this place can be.

    @Flow: I simply adore you and your loving, positive energy.

    Yes. I think it's easy to get lost in all of the labels. Afterall, we are all living souls whether from this planet or another. Each soul brings something to the table whether a gift or catalyst. So, we are all born into this incarnation with an offering. Therefore, I am with you on that Diana. I feel labels or terms are one way to explain a piece of mystery and that's all as we are all here, within 3rd density. And like you said, it would be useful to our spiritual growth to make use of every experience through the application of love and understanding.
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    #33
    05-26-2019, 08:42 AM
    (05-25-2019, 11:59 AM)flofrog Wrote: You guys are too funny and kind, I can be awfully mean and ferocious you know, all facets ! Smile

    I really wonder if rh have to see with the different planets where we come from. I think we all come from different planets. My idea of not being wanderer is in the sense of one being  from an above density.  But seriously I wonder if the rh has to see with different planets origins.

    :@ :@ Ferocious????? FLO! Yes, you are all things, every thought, every emotion, every being. I love you so much! Please, I want you to write me an email when you feel ferocious. I have to experience this. No. Just joking around. Although, I am here anytime, under any condition for you my loving friend. As goes for anyone....
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    #34
    05-26-2019, 10:59 AM (This post was last modified: 05-26-2019, 10:59 AM by Relax.)
    what a great thread!
    as a child/ teen I used to climb up on top of the house late at night when everyone was asleep... and stare up at the stars  - i'd basically sit there for long periods of time waiting for my 'real' family - to come and 'pick me up'

    i recently had blood tests so will find them and see what type I am

    I do not like being individuated, and there being only one person inside my mind... I used to find it completely terrifying ... being trapped in a human body/mind

    being a human is very difficult/unwelcome for me...

    more to  share but it's late here ....zzzzzzzzzzzz Heart  
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    05-26-2019, 12:31 PM
    Haha I so feel that relaxo. I honestly feel like a more comfortable form for me is something permeable like a cloud or water ... I guess light is most obvious where one can merge into anyone and share awareness/experiences/oneness/intimacy with anyone/thing at will.

    When I get upset I just want out of the body and have popped out on a few occasions and it was briefly a sweet relief. Lucky that isn’t easier because I think I could actually be of much better service outside the body verses in.

    Mine wasn’t my roof it was our big living room window, I’d stand there young enough that I was holding the ledge for balance and just stare up to the sky wanting to go home. Not that I knew where that was but I know this wasn’t it.
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    #36
    05-26-2019, 12:57 PM
    Oh this is so funny, so cool, we lived in an apartment in paris and at night during summers, we would look at the sky with my siblings who were older. They would talk about stars, i remember thinking how much they knew, and I wanted to bend out there and they would hold me.
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    05-26-2019, 02:17 PM
    (05-26-2019, 10:59 AM)Relaxo Wrote: what a great thread!
    as a child/ teen I used to climb up on top of the house late at night when everyone was asleep... and stare up at the stars  - i'd basically sit there for long periods of time waiting for my 'real' family - to come and 'pick me up'

    i recently had blood tests so will find them and see what type I am

    I do not like being individuated, and there being only one person inside my mind... I used to find it completely terrifying ... being trapped in a human body/mind

    being a human is very difficult/unwelcome for me...

    more to  share but it's late here ....zzzzzzzzzzzz  Heart  

    Would love to hear more on this "waiting for your real family". I have heard that and read that about non-native Earthlings. So, when you have time pls do share!
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    #38
    05-28-2019, 12:42 AM
    Hi there Kristina (and all in this thread) Smile

    I wrote a reply with lots of information - but it'd feel safer for me to send in a group pm as forum energies have recently been quite hostile.

    If you're interested just pm and I'll pm back Heart

    ~Relax~
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    #39
    05-28-2019, 09:02 PM
    (05-28-2019, 12:42 AM)Relaxo Wrote: Hi there Kristina (and all in this thread) Smile

    I wrote a reply with lots of information - but it'd feel safer for me to send in a group pm as forum energies have recently been quite hostile.

    If you're interested just pm and I'll pm back Heart

    ~Relax~

    You needn't be afraid to post, everything is well. Wink

    Heart
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    #40
    05-29-2019, 12:09 AM
    (05-28-2019, 09:02 PM)blossom Wrote:
    (05-28-2019, 12:42 AM)Relaxo Wrote: Hi there Kristina (and all in this thread) Smile

    I wrote a reply with lots of information - but it'd feel safer for me to send in a group pm as forum energies have recently been quite hostile.

    If you're interested just pm and I'll pm back Heart

    ~Relax~

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    This may be well meant, Blossom -  but you're ignoring my feelings.
    I've stated I don't want to share publicly.

    I was recently described as "senile" and "the *actual unholy living embodiment of hateful divisive identity politics*."

    You can choose to view that as ok if you wish - but please don't tell me how I should feel.
    Saying "everything is well" when clearly it isn't; isn't your call to make.

    (nb: and what's with choosing a *wink* ?)

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    05-29-2019, 12:55 AM (This post was last modified: 05-29-2019, 01:01 AM by ada.)
    I was just trying to be nice. I'm sorry you're hurt, or if I hurt you. I don't think you are any of those things, I hope you do too.

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    05-29-2019, 02:29 AM (This post was last modified: 05-29-2019, 07:48 AM by Relax.)
    (05-29-2019, 12:55 AM)blossom Wrote: I was just trying to be nice. I'm sorry you're hurt, or if I hurt you. I don't think you are any of those things, I hope you do too.

    thank you for trying to be nice - you didn't hurt me - it came across as you ignoring my choice for privacy.
    I'm not hurt by recent and past situations - just tired of it.
    yes - I'm definitely not 'those things'.

    I was way too "strident" when I first joined many years back - because I was in severe physical, and emotional pain - and also because, at that point I'd spent decades helping individuals and communities who experience systemic disenfranchisement, abuse, violence and active discrimination due to STS global power structures - but without seeing any noticeable improvement (globally). The rich are getting richer. The poor are increasing in number.

    (NB: neither they or myself - view ourselves as 'victims' - we're survivors - constantly making efforts to improve our and everyone's lives. Refusing to accept 'dog eat dog' - 'each person for themselves' ideologies - actively resisting greed - resisting STS.) (edit: addition) by creating support networks, advocacy, swap-barter-donate alternatives, legislation changes, media presence/s, sharing information, time, ideas, resources. Self sufficiency models et al.

    I would have been seen as 'preachy', argumentative and unyielding by many members; and that would have been warranted. (But advocacy for ideas opposed to STO wasn't okay with me; so that was the cause for my emphatic approach.)

    I was (metaphorically) writing posts with blood from wounds dripping down my hands onto the keyboard; wounds near lethal from decades longer in 3D 'hell' than most members.
    My longer time in 3D anguish - meant I wasn't going to be understood by most (chronologically) younger members. I didn't reckon with that.
    My 'stridency' would have been a big deterrent. Especially from a woman.

    I was living with daily suicidal ideation, in a state of active trauma from violence I'd barely survived; with no support, no income, no hope for a future, severe physical pain (from injuries from a violent assault), complete family shunning and judgement, separated from friends. So I was amazed and disheartened that the basics of humanitarian issues were unwelcome in discussion by many members in a place I'd so hoped would be a 'sanctuary'.

    I was very unrealistic and felt very angry about it.

    I don't any more. No point.

    But - that's enough - I won't/can't go into any further public discussion of any of this; or myself.

    Thank you for your reply.

    But - no.

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    05-29-2019, 08:05 AM
    I'm sorry, it sounds like a lot to go through in one lifetime. Hang in there.

    p.s. If you'd like, we could chat in PM anytime. Just putting it out there as an option.
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    05-29-2019, 08:09 AM
    (05-29-2019, 02:29 AM)Relaxo Wrote:
    (05-29-2019, 12:55 AM)blossom Wrote: I was just trying to be nice. I'm sorry you're hurt, or if I hurt you. I don't think you are any of those things, I hope you do too.

    thank you for trying to be nice - you didn't hurt me - it came across as you ignoring my choice for privacy.
    I'm not hurt by recent and past situations - just tired of it.
    yes - I'm definitely not 'those things'.

    I was way too "strident" when I first joined many years back - because I was in severe physical, and emotional pain - and also because, at that point I'd spent decades helping individuals and communities who experience systemic disenfranchisement, abuse, violence and active discrimination due to STS global power structures - but without seeing any noticeable improvement (globally). The rich are getting richer. The poor are increasing in number.

    (NB: neither they or myself - view ourselves as 'victims' - we're survivors - constantly making efforts to improve our and everyone's lives. Refusing to accept 'dog eat dog' - 'each person for themselves' ideologies - actively resisting greed - resisting STS.) (edit: addition) by creating support networks, advocacy, swap-barter-donate alternatives, legislation changes, media presence/s, sharing information, time, ideas, resources. Self sufficiency models et al.

    I would have been seen as 'preachy', argumentative and unyielding by many members; and that would have been warranted. (But advocacy for ideas opposed to STO wasn't okay with me; so that was the cause for my emphatic approach.)

    I was (metaphorically) writing posts with blood from wounds dripping down my hands onto the keyboard; wounds near lethal from decades longer in 3D 'hell' than most members.
    My longer time in 3D anguish - meant I wasn't going to be understood by most (chronologically) younger members. I didn't reckon with that.
    My 'stridency' would have been a big deterrent. Especially from a woman.

    I was living with daily suicidal ideation, in a state of active trauma from violence I'd barely survived; with no support, no income, no hope for a future, severe physical pain (from injuries from a violent assault), complete family shunning and judgement, separated from friends. So I was amazed and disheartened that the basics of humanitarian issues were unwelcome in discussion by many members in a place I'd so hoped would be a 'sanctuary'.

    I was very unrealistic and felt very angry about it.

    I don't any more. No point.

    But - that's enough - I won't/can't go into any further public discussion of any of this; or myself.

    Thank you for your reply.

    But - no.

    Heart Heart Heart Heart Heart Heart Heart Heart
    I get it.....
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    #45
    05-29-2019, 01:16 PM
    Just as a small add to the genetic theme : I am working right now on session 91 of Ra, and there was an interesting question on whether different races meant different planets origin, Ra saying no and that if you wanted to have better distinction between different planets origins it was no the looking at races, but observing the biases concerning interactions with other selves and definitions regarding the nature of the self.

    So I was just wondering if that might be linked to RH or not, and I think probably not.

    To make you all laugh and probably much affect the little respect you might have for my thoughts, my son offered me a kit for genetics for Xmas two years ego, and it was found that I had 235 variances for Neanderthal : I am from the cave :0

    I have a long way to go
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    05-29-2019, 02:11 PM
    (05-29-2019, 01:16 PM)flofrog Wrote: Just as a small add to the genetic theme : I am working right now on session 91 of Ra, and there was an interesting question on whether different races meant different planets origin, Ra saying no and that if you wanted to have better distinction between different planets origins it was no the looking at races, but observing the biases concerning interactions with other selves and definitions regarding the nature of the self.

    So I was just wondering if that might be linked to RH or not, and I think probably not.

    To make you all laugh and probably much affect the little respect you might have for my thoughts, my son offered me a kit for genetics for Xmas two years ego, and it was found that I had 235 variances for Neanderthal :  I am from the cave  :0

    I have a long way to go

    Bahahahahaha
    Flo! Unga Bunga Flo. Me Kristina. You Flo. Me carry large stick. Me study Law of One.
    OMG You make me laugh so freaking hard. Heart Heart Heart Heart Heart Heart !

    Does anyone know why the mutationand when? There are a lot of theories but in my personal opinion nothing definitive. Was it the Yahweh group who did it? Was it from some other involvement? If it were the Yahweh entities they didn't take into consideration that Rh Neg's could only 100% successfully mate with Rh Neg's. Although race does play a portion in Rh negative people. Most of them originating from the Basque region of Spain.
    -me Kristina
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    05-29-2019, 06:23 PM (This post was last modified: 05-29-2019, 06:29 PM by Minyatur.)
    (05-29-2019, 12:09 AM)Relax Wrote: This may be well meant, Blossom -  but you're ignoring my feelings.
    I've stated I don't want to share publicly.

    I was recently described as "senile" and "the *actual unholy living embodiment of hateful divisive identity politics*."

    You can choose to view that as ok if you wish - but please don't tell me how I should feel.
    Saying "everything is well" when clearly it isn't; isn't your call to make.

    (nb: and what's with choosing a *wink* ?)

    To be fair, the senile thing was just shedding light on a past event which you brought up and the hateful embodiment comment was in retaliation to that you were critisising someone, so i guess there was a mutual feeling of the other being hateful. The post that shed light on the past event has also been removed from what I see. So I don't think anyone commented on you not commenting them first.

    Not saying you can't share things in private, but if what you mentionned were your reasons, they don't seem truthful unless you were gonna talk about someone other.

    Anyhow, sorry you had a rough life. Just hinting that no one seems to judge you unless you come into conflict with them.

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    05-29-2019, 06:30 PM
    (05-29-2019, 01:16 PM)flofrog Wrote: Just as a small add to the genetic theme : I am working right now on session 91 of Ra, and there was an interesting question on whether different races meant different planets origin, Ra saying no and that if you wanted to have better distinction between different planets origins it was no the looking at races, but observing the biases concerning interactions with other selves and definitions regarding the nature of the self.

    So I was just wondering if that might be linked to RH or not, and I think probably not.

    To make you all laugh and probably much affect the little respect you might have for my thoughts, my son offered me a kit for genetics for Xmas two years ego, and it was found that I had 235 variances for Neanderthal : I am from the cave :0

    I have a long way to go

    Lots of respect for you Flo you are a voice greatly appreciated here.
    As to the Neanderthal thing that's pretty cool. Nothing to discrespect about that. They were obviously a tough species with experiences only they could have. Pretty cool.
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    05-29-2019, 10:14 PM
    Ah Glow, I am still from the cave lol. But fitting for a frog BigSmile
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    05-29-2019, 10:37 PM
    (05-29-2019, 06:23 PM)Minyatur Wrote:
    (05-29-2019, 12:09 AM)Relax Wrote: This may be well meant, Blossom -  but you're ignoring my feelings.
    I've stated I don't want to share publicly.

    I was recently described as "senile" and "the *actual unholy living embodiment of hateful divisive identity politics*."

    You can choose to view that as ok if you wish - but please don't tell me how I should feel.
    Saying "everything is well" when clearly it isn't; isn't your call to make.

    (nb: and what's with choosing a *wink* ?)

    To be fair, the senile thing was just shedding light on a past event which you brought up and the hateful embodiment comment was in retaliation to that you were critisising someone, so i guess there was a mutual feeling of the other being hateful. The post that shed light on the past event has also been removed from what I see. So I don't think anyone commented on you not commenting them first.

    Not saying you can't share things in private, but if what you mentionned were your reasons, they don't seem truthful unless you were gonna talk about someone other.

    Anyhow, sorry you had a rough life. Just hinting that no one seems to judge you unless you come into conflict with them.

    what?

    I said I wanted no more discussion on this.
    Very clearly.

    To ignore that; come to a thread you're not involved with (on the whole) as messenger for/commentator on, people who only days ago have said patronising spiteful things about me; and presume to adjudicate on years of debacle is presumptuousness 101  Confused

    telling me I need to be "fair"
    letting me know you feel I'm 'allowed' to "share things in private"
    but then saying my reasons don't seem "truthful"

    and saying "Just hinting that no one seems to judge you unless you come into conflict with them."

    (No kidding - that's how it usually happens !  Confused  Dodgy )

    ?

    what gives you the idea that this any of your business? - to come to this thread and adjudicate in this way?

    please back off

    as I said - I'm not discussing this any further. Not ever again.

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    05-30-2019, 06:39 AM
    (05-29-2019, 10:14 PM)flofrog Wrote: Ah Glow, I am still from the cave lol. But fitting for a frog BigSmile

    Flo! I love you so.....Does Flo not bring love to the table each time? What matters our bodies or our blood? If the metaphysical action of love can be pulled from the ether and placed for everyone to see and feel? You always do that for us! I always look for your love here in the forum. I know many do. They must!
    We all come from the Creator and we are all here, on the land of illusion. You did not come from the cave. Lol. You know this. Not really the cave as you were created in the mind of the same One that created all. Heart You're adorable.
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    05-30-2019, 07:18 AM
    re this thread; I wonder myself what degree of the DNA/blood type; lineage/differences are relevant ... our bodies, ancestry, DNA, genetics, influence our experiences here... but I don't know to what extent what physical vehicles we've chosen to incarnate into - indicates our non-corporeal identities...

    it's definitely an interesting topic
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    05-30-2019, 07:34 AM
    (05-30-2019, 07:18 AM)Relax Wrote: re this thread; I wonder myself what degree of the DNA/blood type; lineage/differences are relevant ... our bodies, ancestry, DNA, genetics, influence our experiences here... but I don't know to what extent what physical vehicles we've chosen to incarnate into - indicates our non-corporeal identities...

    it's definitely an interesting topic

    Our DNA strands contain light...
    Genetic expressions such as illnesses that are inherited from parent or another within the familial lineage can go dormant or be expressed brought on (according to the scientifc field) by stress. Perhaps the spiritual community may say something like brought on by catalyst as it causes a certain type of stress effecting the whole, M/B/S in this case the body which then effect the other two remaining whole parts of the total sum.
    Then I think or preincarnative choices...locked away within our DNA then expressed at some point during our journey when a lesson is not being adhered to or ignored. This goes a little bit away from RH negative blood but nonetheless has it's own way. As your blood is a living organ. There is a strange natural protection against certain diseases that those with Rhesus positive blood (not positive blood type) do not contain. Strange.
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    05-30-2019, 05:48 PM
    (05-30-2019, 07:18 AM)Relax Wrote: re this thread; I wonder myself what degree of the DNA/blood type; lineage/differences are relevant ... our bodies, ancestry, DNA, genetics, influence our experiences here... but I don't know to what extent what physical vehicles we've chosen to incarnate into - indicates our non-corporeal identities...

    it's definitely an interesting topic

    I have an inner discernment that makes me feel it's pretty unrelated for wanderers.
    We step into these vehicles set up to carry us with precision exactly to where, and exactly how we need to be.
    They are preset with certain karma, that we can clean up, and connections via family/acquaintances that align with our service.

    I mean there certainly could be something useful about it in future. I look back at my own relatives and with one exception a cousin there were no other "different from the start" probable wanderers among the group. If anything that makes the service more challenging, that we are not incarnated YET in groups of 4D+ entities primed to work together.

    We do often find them along the way though.  Heart
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    05-30-2019, 06:43 PM
    I so agree Glow.... I also feel in fact very little interest for anyone who were my ancestors. I have a niece who is obsessed with it so I find her quest very interesting just because it’s not my thing at all.

    If we look at ancestors like looking down a vertical map I am interested to a horizontal thing which would be my parents, my friends and how this whole group interacts on let us say an amount of a hundred years and how this group interacts with the rest of the Earth at that given time


    My hubby is a ´vertical’ one : he reads countless books on history and checks constantly on his family tree... and I am like but you chose those parents and felt little connection in fact with them, shouldn’t you then get more interested in the friends you made and possible incarnations of yourself with other groups of people who may have nothing to do with the vertical ancestry you are looking into ?


    And then he looks Arne like... my wife is so bonkers. lol lol lol

    It’s like he has one life and it’s all related to that vertical line and I am like he is so bonkers BigSmile : D
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    05-30-2019, 07:26 PM
    (05-30-2019, 06:43 PM)flofrog Wrote: I so agree Glow....  I also feel in fact very little interest for anyone who were my ancestors. I have a niece who is obsessed with it so I find her quest very interesting just because it’s not my thing at all.

    If we look at ancestors like looking down a vertical map I am interested to a horizontal thing which would be my parents, my friends and how this whole group interacts on let us say an amount of a hundred years and how this group interacts with the rest of the Earth at that given time


    My hubby is a ´vertical’ one : he reads countless books on history and checks constantly on his family tree... and I am like but you chose those parents and felt little connection in fact with them, shouldn’t you then get more interested in the friends you made and possible incarnations of yourself with other groups of people who may have nothing to do with the vertical ancestry you are looking into ?


    And then he looks Arne like... my wife is so bonkers. lol lol lol

    It’s like he has one life and it’s all related to that vertical line and I am like he is so bonkers BigSmile  : D

    Your ability to understand another and yourself in a situation is why I think you're quite spiritually progressed, flo, regardless of genetics. Funny though, bonkers BigSmile
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    05-30-2019, 08:33 PM
    Agree Blossom add to that my husband has never felt out of place in his life.
    He’s the most wandery- wanderer I know.

    It’s like all this is almost to easy for him. He has no shadow, nothing can trigger him, no one being triggered effects him at all. He actually calls himself a non playable character because nothing really bothers him.

    Wanderers don’t all have the same experience that’s for sure. I know your light has guided me Flo.
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    05-31-2019, 07:20 AM
    flofrog Wrote:My hubby is a ´vertical’ one : he reads countless books on history and checks constantly on his family tree... and I am like but you chose those parents and felt little connection in fact with them, shouldn’t you then get more interested in the friends you made and possible incarnations of yourself with other groups of people who may have nothing to do with the vertical ancestry you are looking into ?
    This mechanism of ancestral research may be your husband's way of trying to pierce through the veil. As if to say, "who am I and where did I come from?". This elementary form of self investigation is sometimes useful as it does NOT lend any real definitive answers as to who we are really. However, let's say hypothetically, he is being inadvertently exposed to the Law of One because of your studies. This gives him the choice of a deeper investigation of who he is, where he came from and his true lineage. None of us are without help. You are being lead back to your originality via the Law of One thus giving your mate a chance also. A divinge plan to help another one.
    And for the most part, that's the way in which I look at why we are with these families, these friends, these jobs and so forth. Let me say this is but one reason as in this Game there are so many variables and twists and turns.
    I also believe my mate is a Wanderer. And he is frazzle dazzled by nothing thus helping me as I am very intense and charged, ready to go. He is the man who says, "ok....see you when you get back but you should sit for a minute and think first before acting", this gives me the chance to remain seated and grounded which is like a type or form of protection but by choice. Me choosing more wisely. And to him, I am the one who says, "you have to tell people, speak and be unafraid of your personal truth!" Truly this man is my friend.
    As far as my family goes they all seem like foreigners with the exception of my Mother and her Mother. Within this family the dynamics remind me of Martians with warring type personailties and emotional states. There was a lot of control, manipulation, screaming, yelling, violence and hateful acts done to one another. I have one sister who is very kind and wants to bring others together. I've often thought why am I here? With these people???? To teach/learn. And by not bringing more children into the world (Rh Neg) and adding to the cesspool of karma. I'm not going to go into the lessons learned by being in this family. We will just say, kindness, long suffering, love and patience. Not having children has freed me to go untethered from one place to another meeting all sorts of people as in my jobs most of my work time was 75% travel, 25% home time reaching many. Currently I am working with but a few. One being a prisoner. Not easy. Not easy at all. Even I get stumped and at a loss for words when I help this person.
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    05-31-2019, 09:04 AM
    (05-31-2019, 07:20 AM)kristina Wrote:
    flofrog Wrote:My hubby is a ´vertical’ one : he reads countless books on history and checks constantly on his family tree... and I am like but you chose those parents and felt little connection in fact with them, shouldn’t you then get more interested in the friends you made and possible incarnations of yourself with other groups of people who may have nothing to do with the vertical ancestry you are looking into ?
    This mechanism of ancestral research may be your husband's way of trying to pierce through the veil. As if to say, "who am I and where did I come from?". This elementary form of self investigation is sometimes useful as it does NOT lend any real definitive answers as to who we are really. However, let's say hypothetically, he is being inadvertently exposed to the Law of One because of your studies. This gives him the choice of a deeper investigation of who he is, where he came from and his true lineage. None of us are without help. You are being lead back to your originality via the Law of One thus giving your mate a chance also. A divinge plan to help another one.
    And for the most part, that's the way in which I look at why we are with these families, these friends, these jobs and so forth. Let me say this is but one reason as in this Game there are so many variables and twists and turns.
    I also believe my mate is a Wanderer. And he is frazzle dazzled by nothing thus helping me as I am very intense and charged, ready to go. He is the man who says, "ok....see you when you get back but you should sit for a minute and think first before acting", this gives me the chance to remain seated and grounded which is like a type or form of protection but by choice. Me choosing more wisely. And to him, I am the one who says, "you have to tell people, speak and be unafraid of your personal truth!" Truly this man is my friend.
    As far as my family goes they all seem like foreigners with the exception of my Mother and her Mother. Within this family the dynamics remind me of Martians with warring type personailties and emotional states. There was a lot of control, manipulation, screaming, yelling, violence and hateful acts done to one another. I have one sister who is very kind and wants to bring others together. I've often thought why am I here? With these people???? To teach/learn. And by not bringing more children into the world (Rh Neg) and adding to the cesspool of karma. I'm not going to go into the lessons learned by being in this family. We will just say, kindness, long suffering, love and patience. Not having children has freed me to go untethered from one place to another meeting all sorts of people as in my jobs most of my work time was 75% travel, 25% home time reaching many. Currently I am working with but a few. One being a prisoner. Not easy. Not easy at all. Even I get stumped and at a loss for words when I help this person.

    My life is somewhat like yours Kristina. In my case, growing up in a disruptive familial situation gave me strong survival skills, which have served me well in life and business. Not having children, which was a choice, has freed me to actually reach more children (I have authored and illustrated many art books for kids). My path has been a "universal" one vs. "personal," reaching people through books and art.  

    I have long thought that prisons should be a place of healing rather than punishment. I would be interested to hear more about how you are working with the prisoner.

    I think the ancestral genetic line may be part of why each person or wanderer chooses the family. In my case, I seemed to have inherited creative talent and intellect from my father. My mother is somewhat psychic though she doesn't really know it. So the genetic lines would provide a fertile ground for access to certain traits useful in this life.
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    05-31-2019, 09:33 AM
    (05-31-2019, 09:04 AM)Diana Wrote:
    (05-31-2019, 07:20 AM)kristina Wrote:
    flofrog Wrote:My hubby is a ´vertical’ one : he reads countless books on history and checks constantly on his family tree... and I am like but you chose those parents and felt little connection in fact with them, shouldn’t you then get more interested in the friends you made and possible incarnations of yourself with other groups of people who may have nothing to do with the vertical ancestry you are looking into ?
    This mechanism of ancestral research may be your husband's way of trying to pierce through the veil. As if to say, "who am I and where did I come from?". This elementary form of self investigation is sometimes useful as it does NOT lend any real definitive answers as to who we are really. However, let's say hypothetically, he is being inadvertently exposed to the Law of One because of your studies. This gives him the choice of a deeper investigation of who he is, where he came from and his true lineage. None of us are without help. You are being lead back to your originality via the Law of One thus giving your mate a chance also. A divinge plan to help another one.
    And for the most part, that's the way in which I look at why we are with these families, these friends, these jobs and so forth. Let me say this is but one reason as in this Game there are so many variables and twists and turns.
    I also believe my mate is a Wanderer. And he is frazzle dazzled by nothing thus helping me as I am very intense and charged, ready to go. He is the man who says, "ok....see you when you get back but you should sit for a minute and think first before acting", this gives me the chance to remain seated and grounded which is like a type or form of protection but by choice. Me choosing more wisely. And to him, I am the one who says, "you have to tell people, speak and be unafraid of your personal truth!" Truly this man is my friend.
    As far as my family goes they all seem like foreigners with the exception of my Mother and her Mother. Within this family the dynamics remind me of Martians with warring type personailties and emotional states. There was a lot of control, manipulation, screaming, yelling, violence and hateful acts done to one another. I have one sister who is very kind and wants to bring others together. I've often thought why am I here? With these people???? To teach/learn. And by not bringing more children into the world (Rh Neg) and adding to the cesspool of karma. I'm not going to go into the lessons learned by being in this family. We will just say, kindness, long suffering, love and patience. Not having children has freed me to go untethered from one place to another meeting all sorts of people as in my jobs most of my work time was 75% travel, 25% home time reaching many. Currently I am working with but a few. One being a prisoner. Not easy. Not easy at all. Even I get stumped and at a loss for words when I help this person.

    My life is somewhat like yours Kristina. In my case, growing up in a disruptive familial situation gave me strong survival skills, which have served me well in life and business. Not having children, which was a choice, has freed me to actually reach more children (I have authored and illustrated many art books for kids). My path has been a "universal" one vs. "personal," reaching people through books and art.  

    I have long thought that prisons should be a place of healing rather than punishment. I would be interested to hear more about how you are working with the prisoner.

    I think the ancestral genetic line may be part of why each person or wanderer chooses the family. In my case, I seemed to have inherited creative talent and intellect from my father. My mother is somewhat psychic though she doesn't really know it. So the genetic lines would provide a fertile ground for access to certain traits useful in this life.
    I am thinking also that there is a direct connection to choosing vehicles (Glow's term and Those of Ra), which would have distinct attributes which make up the sum of our M/B/S. That best suit our biases and so forth. There's is documentation that psychic/paranormal abilities run in families and I think this is something Wanderers would be interested in before incarnating to the Earth as I believe that every detail is worked out regarding the mind, the body, and the spirit (is as it is with it's biases and so forth). It reminds me of a tree. The tree is an entity, however, it having limbs, leaves, roots, it's autonomic nervous system etc=body; how it will choose it's genetics (not that trees choose in this fashion, this is an example), with regards to size, structure, overall health, placement (geographical location)...which in turn the tree will be able to express itself as a shade tree, a companion tree, or a supporting tree. I think these details are also worked out when we choosing our vehicles. Geographical location where our work will begin, our bodies determine how active or inactive we will be, our genetics predispose us to catalyst or gifts that will be used for personal growth and for teaching, our image that also could be used for catalyst or for ease of getting around in the world. In essence, our body selection and genetics I think plays a huge roll. Just as our minds do and of course spirit...
    I will PM you with some info on the prisoner I am teach/learning. Let me say....there is good use of catalyst by knowing this individual/other self. Is it easy? NOPE. It's the hardest thing I've ever participated in and have learned so much.
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