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    JJCarsonian (Offline)

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    #1
    06-07-2019, 03:08 PM
    Just curious what your take on the meaning of this dream:

    My oldest son was sleeping, but i noticed 3 wasps around him. I was scared that they would sting him, so i told the wife to pick him up. Thats the end of the dream, but i'm pretty sure my next course of action was to get out the wasp killer.

    I guess I somewhat have a history of wasps. Wasps come into our home all the time and i have to rid it with wasp killer and any nests by our doors, for safety reasons. Otherwise, I respect and teach my kids to respect all life. When it comes to wasps, i feel bad killing them when they come in our house, but do it for our safety.

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    06-10-2019, 07:43 AM
    (06-07-2019, 03:08 PM)JJCarsonian Wrote: Just curious what your take on the meaning of this dream:

    My oldest son was sleeping, but i noticed 3 wasps around him.  I was scared that they would sting him, so i told the wife to pick him up.  Thats the end of the dream, but i'm pretty sure my next course of action was to get out the wasp killer.

    I guess I somewhat have a history of wasps.  Wasps come into our home all the time and i have to rid it with wasp killer and any nests by our doors, for safety reasons.  Otherwise, I respect and teach my kids to respect all life.  When it comes to wasps, i feel bad killing them when they come in our house, but do it for our safety.
    There could be a metaphysical reason for the three wasps as you have a natural fear of them mostly because they are very dangerous when they are in a swarm or living nested together. I'm terrified of them because I've been stung and literally they are not joking.
    Dreams are most definitely a way the subconscious is talking to the mind, leaving us little clues. You know those dreams you cannot forget about and are forced to look at them? Maybe you should investigate what you are concerned about with your son who is connected to you? Three wasps, three dangers? Your wife, protection? Baby sleeping, vulnerabilities? Then how was you emotion in the dream...were you frightened? Worried? Aggitated?
    No one can interpret another's subconcious. What a wasp means to me, may not mean quite the same to you. That's when you google dream interpretation, they make no sense to the googler. I hope this helps in soe way. It seemed very generic. I apologize for that. Good luck JJ.
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    06-10-2019, 10:10 AM
    One thing to consider is that anyone in your dream can represent you.

    Kristina's suggestions are good. The dream may also just be processing typical daily stuff. Otherwise, I have an old dream dictionary that is pretty good from my experience—it says "wasps in your dream signify a significant time for breaking off an unrewarding relationship which is retarding your progress."
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    06-10-2019, 03:14 PM
    (06-10-2019, 10:10 AM)Diana Wrote: One thing to consider is that anyone in your dream can represent you.

    Kristina's suggestions are good. The dream may also just be processing typical daily stuff. Otherwise, I have an old dream dictionary that is pretty good from my experience—it says "wasps in your dream signify a significant time for breaking off an unrewarding relationship which is retarding your progress."

    I agree that any of the entities in the dream can represent you even multiple entities as they can be different aspects of you. I'd love to know more about the dream book you have Diana.

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    06-10-2019, 03:25 PM
    (06-10-2019, 03:14 PM)kristina Wrote:
    (06-10-2019, 10:10 AM)Diana Wrote: One thing to consider is that anyone in your dream can represent you.

    Kristina's suggestions are good. The dream may also just be processing typical daily stuff. Otherwise, I have an old dream dictionary that is pretty good from my experience—it says "wasps in your dream signify a significant time for breaking off an unrewarding relationship which is retarding your progress."

    I agree that any of the entities in the dream can represent you even multiple entities as they can be different aspects of you. I'd love to know more about the dream book you have Diana.

    The book is: The Dreamer's Dictionary: A Complete Guide to Interpreting Your Dreams, first published in England 1974 (my version is a 1984 US reprint), by Stearn Robinson and Tom Corbett. Smile
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    06-10-2019, 03:34 PM
    (06-10-2019, 03:25 PM)Diana Wrote:
    (06-10-2019, 03:14 PM)kristina Wrote:
    (06-10-2019, 10:10 AM)Diana Wrote: One thing to consider is that anyone in your dream can represent you.

    Kristina's suggestions are good. The dream may also just be processing typical daily stuff. Otherwise, I have an old dream dictionary that is pretty good from my experience—it says "wasps in your dream signify a significant time for breaking off an unrewarding relationship which is retarding your progress."

    I agree that any of the entities in the dream can represent you even multiple entities as they can be different aspects of you. I'd love to know more about the dream book you have Diana.

    The book is: The Dreamer's Dictionary: A Complete Guide to Interpreting Your Dreams, first published in England 1974 (my version is a 1984 US reprint), by Stearn Robinson and Tom Corbett. Smile

    Got it thanks BigSmile

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    06-10-2019, 06:26 PM
    Thank you for your response.

    I was frightened when i saw the wasps, because they were dangerous and i was scared they'd sting the kid! In general, i'm afraid of them, but i know they aren't bad creatures. I'm also wondering if the #3 holds a spiritual meaning. I've had alot of encounters with wasps in the past. I would see wasps in 3s (real life). I had a wasp sting me. I interpreted my encounter with wasps last year to mean that i needed to get off my butt and change my lifestyle. Well i finally did that several months back. Then i saw a couple robins, which interpreted as a new spiritual transformation. Wow it wasn't kidding. Since then, i've developed this medical issues (neuropathy), which caused me to leave my job and somewhat forced me to make a change.

    The other night, I also had a peculiar dream. I dreamed a friend of mine who i havent talked to in a while, called me and asked me to bring water for the teacher. So the whole dream was about me finding and getting water so i can bring it for a teacher. Its a really interesting dream, which i'm wondering if it pertains to my neuropathy.

    (06-10-2019, 07:43 AM)kristina Wrote: There could be a metaphysical reason for the three wasps as you have a natural fear of them mostly because they are very dangerous when they are in a swarm or living nested together. I'm terrified of them because I've been stung and literally they are not joking.
    Dreams are most definitely a way the subconscious is talking to the mind, leaving us little clues. You know those dreams you cannot forget about and are forced to look at them? Maybe you should investigate what you are concerned about with your son who is connected to you? Three wasps, three dangers? Your wife, protection? Baby sleeping, vulnerabilities? Then how was you emotion in the dream...were you frightened? Worried? Aggitated?
    No one can interpret another's subconcious. What a wasp means to me, may not mean quite the same to you. That's when you google dream interpretation, they make no sense to the googler. I hope this helps in soe way. It seemed very generic. I apologize for that. Good luck JJ.
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    06-10-2019, 06:29 PM
    (06-10-2019, 10:10 AM)Diana Wrote: One thing to consider is that anyone in your dream can represent you.

    Kristina's suggestions are good. The dream may also just be processing typical daily stuff. Otherwise, I have an old dream dictionary that is pretty good from my experience—it says "wasps in your dream signify a significant time for breaking off an unrewarding relationship which is retarding your progress."

    Thank you for your response. Is it a physical book or online? What is the interpretation of water? The other night i dreamed a friend called and asked me to get water for a teacher. Strange, right? I interpreted that it may have something to do with my medical condition.

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    06-10-2019, 07:05 PM
    (06-10-2019, 06:29 PM)JJCarsonian Wrote: Thank you for your response. Is it a physical book or online?  What is the interpretation of water?  The other night i dreamed a friend called and asked me to get water for a teacher.  Strange, right?  I interpreted that it may have something to do with my medical condition.

    There are several versions of it on Amazon—none look like the one I have (the cover I mean) probably because mine is an oldie from the 80s.

    "Water" has a long series of different circumstances in the interpretation in the book. My guess is that what you think it means is probably what it means. Also, water very often signifies emotions.
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    06-10-2019, 09:20 PM
    What is it you think I think I signify it means? Wink I think it could literally mean i need more water to flush out toxins out of my system. It also could mean that i need to amp up my emotions. I've been pretty stoic for a while. I was at a reiki healer today, and she says its like there's a wall around my heart chakra.

    (06-10-2019, 07:05 PM)Diana Wrote:
    (06-10-2019, 06:29 PM)JJCarsonian Wrote: Thank you for your response. Is it a physical book or online?  What is the interpretation of water?  The other night i dreamed a friend called and asked me to get water for a teacher.  Strange, right?  I interpreted that it may have something to do with my medical condition.

    There are several versions of it on Amazon—none look like the one I have (the cover I mean) probably because mine is an oldie from the 80s.

    "Water" has a long series of different circumstances in the interpretation in the book. My guess is that what you think it means is probably what it means. Also, water very often signifies emotions.

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    06-11-2019, 08:35 AM
    (06-10-2019, 07:05 PM)Diana Wrote:
    (06-10-2019, 06:29 PM)JJCarsonian Wrote: Thank you for your response. Is it a physical book or online?  What is the interpretation of water?  The other night i dreamed a friend called and asked me to get water for a teacher.  Strange, right?  I interpreted that it may have something to do with my medical condition.

    There are several versions of it on Amazon—none look like the one I have (the cover I mean) probably because mine is an oldie from the 80s.

    "Water" has a long series of different circumstances in the interpretation in the book. My guess is that what you think it means is probably what it means. Also, water very often signifies emotions.

    I was thinking about water and the subconscious meanings. The emotions was one that came to mind. Water is feminine so I think, and anyone could correct me, it covers the emotions, intuition, feminine energies, the moon, the subconscious mind, it's mutable. It's been a long time since I worked with Astrology and Tarot.
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    06-11-2019, 08:48 AM
    I dont think it could mean emotions in my dream. I was at a reiki healer yesterday, and she said i have a wall around my heart chakra. What do you suppose that means? I have been feeling somewhat emotionless last couple of years. I also had lunch with another friend, and she said she sense a hook in the dead center of my back..

    (06-11-2019, 08:35 AM)kristina Wrote: I was thinking about water and the subconscious meanings. The emotions was one that came to mind. Water is feminine so I think, and anyone could correct me, it covers the emotions, intuition, feminine energies, the moon, the subconscious mind, it's mutable. It's been a long time since I worked with Astrology and Tarot.

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    (06-11-2019, 08:48 AM)JJCarsonian Wrote: I dont think it could mean emotions in my dream.  I was at a reiki healer yesterday, and she said i have a wall around my heart chakra.  What do you suppose that means?  I have been feeling somewhat emotionless last couple of years.  I also had lunch with another friend, and she said she sense a hook in the dead center of my back..


    (06-11-2019, 08:35 AM)kristina Wrote: I was thinking about water and the subconscious meanings. The emotions was one that came to mind. Water is feminine so I think, and anyone could correct me, it covers the emotions, intuition, feminine energies, the moon, the subconscious mind, it's mutable. It's been a long time since I worked with Astrology and Tarot.

    Well, I guess (because I don't know), someone could say a wall as in a blockage, right? Only you could know this however. Let's say you did have a wall up or a blockage; that's what we are doing in the 3rd density is working not only with our lower three Chakras but also to clear our heart center. And JJ, you're not much different than most of us, everyone on Earth has had a problem with their 4th ray at some point. So.......now you can take the Reiki Master's info and maybe do some soul searching regarding your 4th ray. I think I read where you are stoic. I am too. I use a lot of logic or rather I have in my past because I was afraid to show I was vunerable in my emotions. Now, I feel much better that I can open my heart even if I risk being hurt. The dream could be that you need to feel one way or the other way maybe a little panic or fear to show that you are vunerable and that you have the ability to retrieve yourself from wild emotions and return to calm. I wouldn't put too much in the number 3. It's a lot harder to keep your eye on 3 wasps rather than 1 wasp which you can swat easily even if you swat it over and over. Three is a little more difficult. I don't know about a hook. The only thing that comes to mind is an attachment but if you had an attachment I think your life would be a little nutty. Sometimes our dreams are about ourselves and not some other worldly explanation. Most often it is about us. As it is a way for the subconscious mind to communicate with the conscious mind and generally it's to help us heal in some way. Does this help? I hope so. I'm no good at this sort of thing.
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    Thank you for your comment.  You are right, i'm a very logical person.  The reiki healer said she felt my mind was going nonstop.  I do feel like several things have contributed to a blocked 4th ray.  For one, i've done some drugs over the years that have really made me numb.  Also, I've always felt a sense of loneliness and sometimes sadness during my  life.  Maybe the medical symptoms i have - the neuropathy (numbness all over), is symbolic of my emotional state?  How would I go about opening my 4th chakra?  

    (06-11-2019, 03:42 PM)kristina Wrote: Well, I guess (because I don't know), someone could say a wall as in a blockage, right? Only you could know this however. Let's say you did have a wall up or a blockage; that's what we are doing in the 3rd density is working not only with our lower three Chakras but also to clear our heart center. And JJ, you're not much different than most of us, everyone on Earth has had a problem with their 4th ray at some point. So.......now you can take the Reiki Master's info and maybe do some soul searching regarding your 4th ray. I think I read where you are stoic. I am too. I use a lot of logic or rather I have in my past because I was afraid to show I was vunerable in my emotions. Now, I feel much better that I can open my heart even if I risk being hurt. The dream could be that you need to feel one way or the other way maybe a little panic or fear to show that you are vunerable and that you have the ability to retrieve yourself from wild emotions and return to calm. I wouldn't put too much in the number 3. It's a lot harder to keep your eye on 3 wasps rather than 1 wasp which you can swat easily even if you swat it over and over. Three is a little more difficult. I don't know about a hook. The only thing that comes to mind is an attachment but if you had an attachment I think your life would be a little nutty. Sometimes our dreams are about ourselves and not some other worldly explanation. Most often it is about us. As it is a way for the subconscious mind to communicate with the conscious mind and generally it's to help us heal in some way. Does this help? I hope so. I'm no good at this sort of thing.

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    (06-11-2019, 05:32 PM)JJCarsonian Wrote: Thank you for your comment.  You are right, i'm a very logical person.  The reiki healer said she felt my mind was going nonstop.  I do feel like several things have contributed to a blocked 4th ray.  For one, i've done some drugs over the years that have really made me numb.  Also, I've always felt a sense of loneliness and sometimes sadness during my  life.  Maybe the medical symptoms i have - the neuropathy (numbness all over), is symbolic of my emotional state?  How would I go about opening my 4th chakra?  


    (06-11-2019, 03:42 PM)kristina Wrote: Well, I guess (because I don't know), someone could say a wall as in a blockage, right? Only you could know this however. Let's say you did have a wall up or a blockage; that's what we are doing in the 3rd density is working not only with our lower three Chakras but also to clear our heart center. And JJ, you're not much different than most of us, everyone on Earth has had a problem with their 4th ray at some point. So.......now you can take the Reiki Master's info and maybe do some soul searching regarding your 4th ray. I think I read where you are stoic. I am too. I use a lot of logic or rather I have in my past because I was afraid to show I was vunerable in my emotions. Now, I feel much better that I can open my heart even if I risk being hurt. The dream could be that you need to feel one way or the other way maybe a little panic or fear to show that you are vunerable and that you have the ability to retrieve yourself from wild emotions and return to calm. I wouldn't put too much in the number 3. It's a lot harder to keep your eye on 3 wasps rather than 1 wasp which you can swat easily even if you swat it over and over. Three is a little more difficult. I don't know about a hook. The only thing that comes to mind is an attachment but if you had an attachment I think your life would be a little nutty. Sometimes our dreams are about ourselves and not some other worldly explanation. Most often it is about us. As it is a way for the subconscious mind to communicate with the conscious mind and generally it's to help us heal in some way. Does this help? I hope so. I'm no good at this sort of thing.
    First of all, thank you JJ for being sober because if one is sick, we are all sick. Using drugs as a numbing agent is very, very common and you need to forgive yourself for using. That's your first step in opening your heart....open it first to yourself. This is the first and most important step for any of us. We need to love ourselves first, forgive ourselves first, be open and honest with ourselves first. This will probably take up most of your life as I have found that upon review of my life, I have done much to forgive. lol. I have been a bad girl. So, I am almost positive it will take the rest of of my life learning to forgive, love and accept me in the past and the present moment. Then I can apply that love, acceptance and forgiveness to others. It's not easy. I have to look at each of the things I have done and forgive each part. For those of us who hide from emotion and resort to logic first it is pretty difficult to get in touch with that very first thing you did in which you hold yourself in contempt for and say, "I forgive you and love you anyway". This is the first leap. It's gets easier as you go along but always look to the Creator in thanksgiving for your ability to even see what it is you feel you were in error. That error has brought you here, to a place of forgiveness. Now you can make a choice, a healthy choice. Also JJ you will no longer look at things as errors but as a way that your soul has come to learn. Be very loving and patient as this process will be trying at times.
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    Let us for a moment consider thought. What is it, my friends, to take thought? Took you then thought today? What thoughts did you think today? What thoughts were part of the original thought today? In how many of your thoughts did the creation abide? Was love contained? And was service freely given? You are not part of a material universe. You are part of a thought. You are dancing in a ballroom in which there is no material. You are dancing thoughts. You move your body, your mind, and your spirit in somewhat eccentric patterns for you have not completely grasped the concept that you are part of the original thought. -Ra (1.0)


    To begin to master the concept of mental discipline it is necessary to examine the self. The polarity of your dimension must be internalized. Where you find patience within your mind you must consciously find the corresponding impatience and vice versa. Each thought that a being has, has in its turn an antithesis. The disciplines of the mind involve, first of all, identifying both those things of which you approve and those things of which you disapprove within yourself, and then balancing each and every positive and negative charge with its equal. The mind contains all things. Therefore, you must discover this completeness within yourself. -Ra

    In the channelings of Ra it is discussed how thoughts becoming "things"....the example Ra uses is cancer. Cancer that is a result from unresolved anger. This is more about your Neuropathy. It is possible that your condition is a result of several things, your wanting to numb out the pain of emotion and the drug use. As a result, it is possible to have triggered this condition into activation.
    JJ I want you to think of your Will. One of the most powerful things we have in our pockets is will. We can direct it, send it, and use it. This very artifact makes all unstoppable in their missions. It's the very essence of your sobriety. So, use your will in your first mission of love to the self and then to the other self. Don't let your spiritual journey worry you as nothing pleases the Creator more than you living your life upon the Earth looking through your lense, from your perspective.


    Ra: I am Ra. We have given information concerning the proper nurturing of this channel. We, therefore, repeat ourselves only in two ways in general. Firstly, we suggest that rather than being, shall we say, brave and ignoring a physical complex weakness distortion, it is good to share this distortion with the group and thus perhaps, shall we say, remove one opportunity for contact which is very wearying to the instrument, in order that another opportunity might come about in which the instrument is properly supported.

    Secondly, the work begun in harmony may continue. Harmony, thanksgiving, and praise of opportunities and of the Creator: these are your protection. These are our suggestions. We cannot be specific for your free will is of the essence in this contact. As we said, we only speak to this subject because of our grasp of your orientation towards long-term maintenance of this contact. This is acceptable to us.
    Hopefully these quotes from those of Ra have brought some peace of mind....
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    JJ. Don’t be discouraged by this long post of our Kristina, I know her, she just loves extended work, so she post long things to show us the mountain to climb

    What is really annoying is that at the same time she is right, and best heart ever. Briefly, she is so annoying.

    Ok, now seriously, miss kristina, I have a question for you.


    Do you think that in this wonderful quote of Ra, or rather this quote of our wonderful Ra,
    “ identifying both those things of which you approve and those things of which you disapprove within yourself, and then balancing each positive and negative with its equal.” so do you feel we just look at its opposite really and that will create balance ?

    Asling because at night, after a very quick meditation ( sometimes I have to say I fall asleep through it cause it’s so pleasant and blissful... Sad ) so I just say all right I was a schmuck there this morning then at noon I was this pretty cool chick giving full heatedly no expectations, then at 3pm I was this schmuck again, so all you have to do is thiink/visualize the opposite you can be to balance it all ?

    Then, if yes, think about this, suppose you spend all day being this terrific cool love giving no expectation chick ( Wait guys, this has never happened to me yet, I am just asking here ). Then do you imagine the amount of negative, in Yourself, that night, you have to find, and think how depressing that must be ???

    Just asking question you know.. Wink
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    I'm not offended! I love reading her posts, just trying to figure out how to respond Wink

    (06-12-2019, 06:14 PM)flofrog Wrote: JJ. Don’t be discouraged by this long post of our Kristina, I know her, she just loves extended work, so she post long things to show us the mountain to climb

    What is really annoying is that at the same time she is right, and best heart ever.  Briefly, she is so annoying.

    Ok,  now seriously, miss kristina, I have a question for you.


    Do you think that in this wonderful quote of Ra, or rather this quote of our wonderful Ra,
    “  identifying both those things of which you approve and those things of which you disapprove within yourself, and then balancing each positive and negative with its equal.” so do you feel we just look at its opposite really and that will create balance ?

    Asling because at night, after a very quick meditation ( sometimes I have to say I fall asleep through it cause it’s so pleasant and blissful... Sad ) so I just say all right I was a schmuck there this morning then at noon I was this pretty cool chick giving full heatedly no expectations, then at 3pm I was this schmuck again, so all you have to do is thiink/visualize the opposite you can be to balance it all ?

    Then, if yes, think about this, suppose you spend all day being this terrific cool love giving no expectation chick ( Wait guys, this has never happened to me yet, I am just asking here ). Then do you imagine the amount of negative, in Yourself, that night, you have to find, and think how depressing that must be ???

    Just asking question you know.. Wink

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    06-12-2019, 06:58 PM
    Kristina

    I think you are exactly right. I've actually realized all this about myself. As much wisdom and knowledge i've gain over the years (I love studying the Ra material and listening to educational info) I find that I haven't been the best at implementing what I know i should do. Partly because i've been waiting to change my habits for so long. A couple months ago i've quit my job so i can focus more on myself. I do find it hard to meditate, because i havent been able to get into deep meditation, partially because i feel like my brain is a little messed up from all the crap i've put in my body. I've also realized that i've been looking to crystals and such to do the work, but Ra would say that these are just metaphysical training wheels lol.

    Right now, i'm just trying to figure out my next steps so i'm looking for clues in such. At the end, I know that i need to love and forgive myself. I feel like i'm not as hard on myself as i once was, but not sure if I fully love myself. If you know some simple things i can do to help, i'd appreciatei t.

    (06-12-2019, 07:21 AM)kristina Wrote: First of all, thank you JJ for being sober because if one is sick, we are all sick. Using drugs as a numbing agent is very, very common and you need to forgive yourself for using. That's your first step in opening your heart....open it first to yourself. This is the first and most important step for any of us. We need to love ourselves first, forgive ourselves first, be open and honest with ourselves first. This will probably take up most of your life as I have found that upon review of my life, I have done much to forgive. lol. I have been a bad girl. So, I am almost positive it will take the rest of of my life learning to forgive, love and accept me in the past and the present moment. Then I can apply that love, acceptance and forgiveness to others. It's not easy. I have to look at each of the things I have done and forgive each part. For those of us who hide from emotion and resort to logic first it is pretty difficult to get in touch with that very first thing you did in which you hold yourself in contempt for and say, "I forgive you and love you anyway". This is the first leap. It's gets easier as you go along but always look to the Creator in thanksgiving for your ability to even see what it is you feel you were in error. That error has brought you here, to a place of forgiveness. Now you can make a choice, a healthy choice. Also JJ you will no longer look at things as errors but as a way that your soul has come to learn. Be very loving and patient as this process will be trying at times.
    Quote:
    Let us for a moment consider thought. What is it, my friends, to take thought? Took you then thought today? What thoughts did you think today? What thoughts were part of the original thought today? In how many of your thoughts did the creation abide? Was love contained? And was service freely given? You are not part of a material universe. You are part of a thought. You are dancing in a ballroom in which there is no material. You are dancing thoughts. You move your body, your mind, and your spirit in somewhat eccentric patterns for you have not completely grasped the concept that you are part of the original thought. -Ra (1.0)


    To begin to master the concept of mental discipline it is necessary to examine the self. The polarity of your dimension must be internalized. Where you find patience within your mind you must consciously find the corresponding impatience and vice versa. Each thought that a being has, has in its turn an antithesis. The disciplines of the mind involve, first of all, identifying both those things of which you approve and those things of which you disapprove within yourself, and then balancing each and every positive and negative charge with its equal. The mind contains all things. Therefore, you must discover this completeness within yourself. -Ra

    In the channelings of Ra it is discussed how thoughts becoming "things"....the example Ra uses is cancer. Cancer that is a result from unresolved anger. This is more about your Neuropathy. It is possible that your condition is a result of several things, your wanting to numb out the pain of emotion and the drug use. As a result, it is possible to have triggered this condition into activation.
    JJ I want you to think of your Will. One of the most powerful things we have in our pockets is will. We can direct it, send it, and use it. This very artifact makes all unstoppable in their missions. It's the very essence of your sobriety. So, use your will in your first mission of love to the self and then to the other self. Don't let your spiritual journey worry you as nothing pleases the Creator more than you living your life upon the Earth looking through your lense, from your perspective.


    Ra: I am Ra. We have given information concerning the proper nurturing of this channel. We, therefore, repeat ourselves only in two ways in general. Firstly, we suggest that rather than being, shall we say, brave and ignoring a physical complex weakness distortion, it is good to share this distortion with the group and thus perhaps, shall we say, remove one opportunity for contact which is very wearying to the instrument, in order that another opportunity might come about in which the instrument is properly supported.

    Secondly, the work begun in harmony may continue. Harmony, thanksgiving, and praise of opportunities and of the Creator: these are your protection. These are our suggestions. We cannot be specific for your free will is of the essence in this contact. As we said, we only speak to this subject because of our grasp of your orientation towards long-term maintenance of this contact. This is acceptable to us.
    Hopefully these quotes from those of Ra have brought some peace of mind....

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    06-12-2019, 07:01 PM
    I was teasing!ristina JJ... best wishes to you, really...
    Remember JJ this is one thing we all have in common in 3D : difficulty to forget oneself, love oneself .Go for it like in... bite the bullet !!
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    06-13-2019, 07:53 AM
    (06-12-2019, 06:14 PM)flofrog Wrote: JJ. Don’t be discouraged by this long post of our Kristina, I know her, she just loves extended work, so she post long things to show us the mountain to climb

    What is really annoying is that at the same time she is right, and best heart ever.  Briefly, she is so annoying.

    Ok,  now seriously, miss kristina, I have a question for you.


    Do you think that in this wonderful quote of Ra, or rather this quote of our wonderful Ra,
    “  identifying both those things of which you approve and those things of which you disapprove within yourself, and then balancing each positive and negative with its equal.” so do you feel we just look at its opposite really and that will create balance ?

    Asling because at night, after a very quick meditation ( sometimes I have to say I fall asleep through it cause it’s so pleasant and blissful... Sad ) so I just say all right I was a schmuck there this morning then at noon I was this pretty cool chick giving full heatedly no expectations, then at 3pm I was this schmuck again, so all you have to do is thiink/visualize the opposite you can be to balance it all ?

    Then, if yes, think about this, suppose you spend all day being this terrific cool love giving no expectation chick ( Wait guys, this has never happened to me yet, I am just asking here ). Then do you imagine the amount of negative, in Yourself, that night, you have to find, and think how depressing that must be ???

    Just asking question you know.. Wink

    OK Flo.....I'm a talker. Yeah, yeah...and long winded. If I didn't love you so much already I'd be looking to love you after calling me annoying which I totally accept in 100% gratitude. LOL!
    I have to go from my understandings of the Law of One so hear is my winded reply.
    I will use an example of the prisoner I am working with. The world finds easy to judge him. He commited first degree murder. So, I ask, How can I see my reflection in him if I am all things, every thought, every being? I have never murdered! But I have as I use to hunt long ago with my ex-husband for sport. I killed not because I was hungry, I killed because of adrinaline. I used the excuse that they were over populated and other various excuses. All the typical ones. And one more thing I can use as an example ( I shouldn't but I have no fear in saying) my Dad made me have an abortion at 16. So....I say, I have take "life" and for no real good reason. I looked honestly at those situations and I can accept that I have stolen another's opportunity to live because I felt in someway I was a little more important. So, I am the murderer. I wouldn't want someone to view me as a scourge to society and turn away from me especially now as I am ready for the change and have been for 30 years. I see myself just as the prisoner who has murdered. When I am angry, I know I have the ability to be joyful because I contain joy. When I am sad I am also happy as I know I contain those things within me. The most important area in learning this is first you must KNOW yourself and in order to KNOW yourself you will have to be completely honest even if it hurts. You may shed tears perhaps a lot of them but this is part of knowing the self. Before a person can balance themselves they have to know what it is they are bringing into balance. If you know of one thing but have not yet realized the other this exercise will do a person little good. You have to pierce into the veil and you have to be willing to really see the ugly side of the self. No doubt if you see the ugly, and were shocked, you have already seen the prettier side of you.
    Flo....Flo....Flo...... Heart Did I say that right Huh ? Tell me O' wise sage Tongue .....
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    06-13-2019, 06:49 PM
    no that is so right miss Krisitina... As a matter of fact in all the incarnations I musth have had I'd be really astonished if I didn't kil a few or even a thousand if I have been a soldier so... yes the idea to feel as a murderer is such a good one because you immediately can imagine how much anger and hurt you can feel and want revenge or just venting that unbearable anger and fear and feel, ok that's it nothing will relieve this than to make that person disappear... and then all the unbearable feelings that you have taken a life in effect, stiffened that one breath, all the more that subliminally you know we are all one. Yes that was a great choice Miss K !!!!!! love ya !!!!!!
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    06-13-2019, 08:06 PM
    (06-13-2019, 06:49 PM)flofrog Wrote: no that is so right miss Krisitina... As a matter of fact in all the incarnations I musth have had I'd be really astonished if I didn't kil a few or even a thousand if I have been a soldier so... yes the idea to feel as a murderer is such a good one because you immediately can imagine how much anger and hurt you can feel and want revenge or just venting that unbearable anger and fear and feel, ok that's it nothing will relieve this than to make that person disappear... and then all the unbearable feelings that you have taken a life in effect, stiffened that one breath, all the more that subliminally you know we are all one.  Yes that was a great choice Miss K !!!!!!  love ya !!!!!!

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