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    Moonfox (Offline)

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    07-19-2019, 01:30 PM
    Hi dilly-ho, neighborinos! Well looks like someone's having a pre-rapture party. ;-) ((Sorry for the Ned Flanders' quote. hehehe))

    Anyway, so I was called back to the Ra material and so here I am. I hope this post finds all of you well. It's summer in my part of the world and I have sweat off nearly 20 lbs trying to keep up with my kids.

    So best frame my question, I will quote Ra,

    Quote:"22.27 ▶ Questioner: I see. Then I will state the picture I have now of Atlantis and you can tell me if I’m correct.

    We have a condition where a large enough number of the entities of Atlantis had started at least going in the direction of the Law of One and living the Law of One for their call to be heard by the Confederation. This call was heard because, using the Law of Squares, it overrode the opposition of the Atlantean entities that were not calling. The Confederation then used channels such as we use now for communication and also made contact directly, but this turned out to be a mistake because it was perverted by some of the entities of Atlantis. Is this correct?

    Ra: This is correct with one exception. There is only one law. That is the Law of One. Other so-called laws are distortions of this law, some of them primal and most important for progress to be understood. However, it is well that each so-called law, which we also call “way,” be understood as a distortion rather than a law. There is no multiplicity to the Law of One.""

    Moving on to the law of squares:

    Quote:"All that the Law of the Squares does is to give you a route in which, if you've got your sum right, gives you the option to achieve your objective.

    https://www.facebook.com/notes/jason-ver...996193310/


    Quote:THE LAW OF THE SQUARES. By Prof. John Roy Robert Searl.
    The law of the squares states that all things within this universe have two prime states. They are
    opposites of which one will be greater in value than the other.
    The law of the squares also states that there is a division between these two states.
    Throughout my books you are shown hundreds of these samples. The one I shall discuss here is in
    reference to the animal termed Homo sapiens – that is correct, it represents you and me.
    Let us look at the law of the squares statements:
    1 There will be the non experts that representing the higher value.
    2 There will be experts that representing the lower value.
    3 Between these two states is a very small dividing line of inventors.
    Thus the law of the squares is up held.
    4 The non experts live in the today, not the yesterday nor the tomorrow.
    5 The expert does not live in the today but rather in the 1,000 to 5 years of the past.
    6 The inventor lives in the tomorrow, for he or she creates the future that is to be.
    Without inventors there would be no tomorrows but a continuation of the today, thus never changing
    in any manner except for the change of seasons.
    Inventors are labelled as living in a world of fantasy, while the so called experts claim to live in a
    world of reality; ironically, that very claim proves that their world came from the world of fantasy by
    those who suffered and struggled to create the present reality that these experts claim as their right.
    Before any one can conceive a concept to generate some new invention a number of triggers have to
    be in place.
    .
    1. The brain must be free from all conventional brainwashing so that the sub-conscious can freely
    communicate to the conscious mind. Thus between these two states the data stored can be
    made active by the correct input of our body’s sensors.
    2 There must be information stored in the brain either at the time of its conception or gained
    after birth at the expense of time.
    3 Once the correct triggers have been stimulated so that the conscious or sub-conscious mind can
    start searching and assembling a dream or a thought wave, data makes its way to the conscious
    mind of the owner and impresses the owner with the possibility of creating a new project.
    4 It is extremely unlikely that you can invent because the brain that creates does so based on
    information that was invented already by brains of the past; even as far back as the day man
    first appeared upon planet earth.
    5 My work is based on the success of hundreds of inventors before me; my work has just
    extended their work. They invented the materials, tools and equipment that make it possible
    for me to extend their work.
    6 Within the laws of nature there is nothing impossible except that the state of your mind makes
    it so. And it is your mind which has and still does delay progress for a better world then we
    have today.
    7 In my case; the sub-conscience assembled an extremely simple game which strangely contains
    the mathematics which is required to achieve this technology, without that input there is no
    S.E.G. or I.G.V. Anyone making such claims is talking out their rear end, what a shame to
    waste such energy.
    8 It also gives much information on science and technology, which was a blessing as I had no
    need to go to school to learn it.
    9 The device is basically a linear motor riding on a magnetic bearing; in reality there are three
    such units in one body.
    10 Its characteristics are similar to that of an autotransformer; again three such devices in one
    body.
    11 From the inner unit which generates its own output that feeds into the second unit that is also
    generating its own, but much greater output, is therefore boosted vastly by the input from the
    first unit. The second unit output is then feed into the third unit which also is generating a
    much larger output is again vastly increased by the input from the second unit.
    12 Every operation of the S.E.G. follows Newton’s laws precisely, these experts’ claims that it is
    not possible are just protecting their image of importance. Such has always been the case since
    this animal called Homo sapiens arrive upon the planet earth and will always exist until the
    end of time.
    13 Not only is the problem to design and test the specialised equipment to undertake this research;
    but one of the real major problems is that there are far too many of this species that suffer from
    an obsessive compulsive disorder that functions on ignorance and greed. There is no more
    dangerous combination that has so far managed to delay this technology from reaching its
    marketplace, and would had done so back in 1968 and again in 2003 if it was not for the
    effects relating to this disease.
    14 Today for the fifth time efforts to recreate this technology are moving forward but cost is the
    greatest problem which increases each year that it takes to reach the marketplace. There is yet
    another major problem for delay. This is that the man involved has to live and therefore has to
    maintain a job by which he can survive and find from his pocket that cost which is involved.
    Time is related to availability of hard cash and spare time to work on it. It also requires
    absolute dedication and devotion and faith for its success and this man has all three
    requirements for such a success.
    15 This world is dying from pollution factors which this technology offers a solution that no other
    technology can offer. Yet everyone ignores its possibilities because the power man of today
    would loose profit by such a technology being available on the marketplace.
    16 Yet it would slowly halt this hurrican forming problem now greatly being experienced along
    the U.S.A. coast line, which will eventually reach places like Canada and even the UK if we
    allow this global warming to increase.
    17 Is it humane for life and property to be destroyed in the name of ignorance and greed?
    18 You may wonder if the S.E.G. output is Direct Current or Alternating Current. It is an
    Alternating Current at very high voltage that has to be passed through a step down transformer
    for the voltage required like all other power systems available today; current is proportional to
    the voltage.
    19 Rare earths play an important part in the success of the S.E.G. operation. The one that has
    become the keystone of my work is Nd because everyone wants to follow the same one that I
    used in 1946. It is far from the best but it is the first choice for cost and availability.
    20 One major problem is that it looses electrons to the air. As such it will oxidize in air. This can
    be prevented by the following means:
    1 Keep it in argon while not in use which is the better choice; or in oil which is the
    choice that I do not prefer.
    2 Or mix 1% of another rare earth which does not loose electrons to the air that will
    block the Nd from loosing its electrons to the air.
    3 As you move up the element chart there are better options to use. Also it makes the
    S.E.G. smaller for the same output.
    21 To experts it’s impossible as they had stated about the cycle, motor car, Train, Plane,
    Electricity, gas, telephone, and television and space travel plus everything else made or done
    by man, in reality they were confirming that it could be done, and it was only done by those
    who lived in the world of fantasy, for it is only such people who are capable of free thinking
    by which progress in advancing man’s knowledge can be achieved.
    22 Everything made by man came out of the world of fantasy which existed there before man ever
    appeared on earth including all inventions of the future have been here since time began. But
    before any such invention can be brought forth from the world of fantasy into the world of
    reality some ingenious person must tune in to it; that action requires a set of triggers in a
    precise order of events and then and only then will such products become available to
    mankind.
    23 Though the S.E.G. is a marvellous device it can only reduce the pollution problem which helps
    to reduce global warming that will give trees and animals a chance to survive. It will require
    everyone to help to clean up this planet as we made the mess due to our lack of knowledge and
    understanding and replant trees which in our ignorance have been cut down. These are urgent
    requirements to block the creation of hurricanes and tornados.
    24 It takes about 30 years before a tree can fully function in its duty cycle in reducing this global
    warming, clearly the need is present today to start a massive replacement task in the effort to
    balance nature to our advantage, otherwise it will be to our disadvantage.
    25 If you really care for your children’s health and well fare then you must act today and help
    clean up these problems, To assist me to do my best to help nature to recover from our wrongs
    which we have done and are still doing.
    26 Listen to our children who have no tomorrows if we don’t care; our ignorance and greed is
    killing this planet. If we don’t stop our destruction of this planet there will be no tomorrows
    for anyone. There will be just a resting place for our remains.

    https://www.searleffect.com/free/press/U...RTICLE.pdf

    I have also studied Hermetics, which has had an impact on me because I feel the nature of the information is correct.

    The hermetics say that there are degrees to things, such as example being love and hate are the same thing just different polarities.

    Ra says there are no polarities. I just can't wrap my head around there being no polarity. I'm stuck. Can anyone unstick me? Please?
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    #2
    07-19-2019, 01:34 PM
    I think past mid-6th density there are no polarities. But here in 3D there sure are.
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    #3
    07-19-2019, 02:05 PM
    Yes, I feel there are here, too. Ra mentions there is polarity due to the negative/positive harvest scenario, but then also says there is no polarity and that all is one. Maybe that's kind of like saying "it all washes out in the end." Which is probably true, I just want to make sure I'm understanding this. And I'm not sure that I do.

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    #4
    07-19-2019, 02:47 PM
    Something I read earlier on the forum I think, from a Q'uo session.

    Sunday Meditation
    December 31, 1989

    Quote:In sixth density, there is eventually, in mid-density, a point in which there is no longer any polarity, for if all is one polarity there is no polarity. It is when the spirit has reached this point, full of unity, wisdom and compassion, that the sixth-density self places within the third-density self, in the deep mind, the biases which are to come, the destiny which has been fulfilled, the beauty, the exactitude of service to others.
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    #5
    07-20-2019, 12:45 PM
    Thinking out loud:

    Just as time is a linear construct in 3D, so is polarity a construct. Linear time assists navigation through 3D effectively with limited 3D understanding and capacity to hold information (without the segmentation into small units of linear time, the enormity of information would overload the 3D awareness). Polarity provides the baseline for 3D entities to become aware of others besides self, to make decisions, to choose, rather than to operate from instinct/survival, and eventually to be accountable and take responsibility for decisions made. Polarity first presents the idea of separation, which is necessary to understand that there is self and other, and awareness of choices and their results through cause and effect demonstrated through linear time, provide the fertile ground to evolve awareness toward the idea that all is one.
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    07-20-2019, 06:42 PM
    (07-19-2019, 02:05 PM)Moonfox Wrote: Yes, I feel there are here, too. Ra mentions there is polarity due to the negative/positive harvest scenario, but then also says there is no polarity and that all is one. Maybe that's kind of like saying "it all washes out in the end." Which is probably true, I just want to make sure I'm understanding this. And I'm not sure that I do.
    Here is some information regarding The Choice which is very important in 3rd density.

    Quote:77.16 ▶ Questioner: What I am really attempting to understand, since all of these twenty-one philosophical bases result in the twenty-second which is The Choice, is why this choice is so important, why the Logos, it seems, puts so much emphasis on this choice, and what function that choice of polarity is, precisely, in the evolution or the experience of that which is created by the Logos?

    Ra: I am Ra. The polarization or choosing of each mind/body/spirit is necessary for harvestability from third density. The higher densities do their work due to the polarity gained in this choice.

    Also....

    Quote:77.15 ▶ Questioner: The specific question that I had was that it seems to me that the choice was planned to create intense polarization past third density so that experience would be intense past third density. Is this correct?

    Ra: I am Ra. Given that our interpretation of your sound vibration complexes is appropriate, this is incorrect. The intensity of fourth density is that of the refining of the rough-hewn sculpture. This is, indeed, in its own way, quite intense causing the mind/body/spirit complex to move ever inward and onward in its quest for fuller expression. However, in third density the statue is forged in the fire. This is a type of intensity which is not the property of fourth, fifth, sixth, or seventh densities.


    Quote:76.16 ▶ Questioner: Third density, then, it appears, is, compared to the rest of the densities, all of them, nothing but a uniquely short period of what we consider to be time and is then for the purpose of this choice.

    Is this correct?

    Ra: I am Ra. This is precisely correct. The prelude to choice must encompass the laying of the foundation, the establishment of the illusion and the viability of that which can be made spiritually viable. The remainder of the densities is continuous refining of the choice. This also is greatly lengthened, as you would use the term. The choice is, as you put it, the work of a moment but is the axis upon which the creation turns.
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    07-21-2019, 06:37 PM
    ""Your joy is your sorrow unmasked""

    how did you know? this rang a chord with me. it's true. it's my job.
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    01-10-2021, 09:50 PM
    (07-19-2019, 01:30 PM)Moonfox Wrote: Hi dilly-ho, neighborinos! Well looks like someone's having a pre-rapture party. ;-) ((Sorry for the Ned Flanders' quote. hehehe))

    Anyway, so I was called back to the Ra material and so here I am. I hope this post finds all of you well. It's summer in my part of the world and I have sweat off nearly 20 lbs trying to keep up with my kids.

    So best frame my question, I will quote Ra,




    Quote:"22.27 ▶ Questioner: I see. Then I will state the picture I have now of Atlantis and you can tell me if I’m correct.

    We have a condition where a large enough number of the entities of Atlantis had started at least going in the direction of the Law of One and living the Law of One for their call to be heard by the Confederation. This call was heard because, using the Law of Squares, it overrode the opposition of the Atlantean entities that were not calling. The Confederation then used channels such as we use now for communication and also made contact directly, but this turned out to be a mistake because it was perverted by some of the entities of Atlantis. Is this correct?

    Ra: This is correct with one exception. There is only one law. That is the Law of One. Other so-called laws are distortions of this law, some of them primal and most important for progress to be understood. However, it is well that each so-called law, which we also call “way,” be understood as a distortion rather than a law. There is no multiplicity to the Law of One.""

    Moving on to the law of squares:




    Quote:"All that the Law of the Squares does is to give you a route in which, if you've got your sum right, gives you the option to achieve your objective.

    https://www.facebook.com/notes/jason-ver...996193310/


    Quote:THE LAW OF THE SQUARES. By Prof. John Roy Robert Searl.
    The law of the squares states that all things within this universe have two prime states. They are
    opposites of which one will be greater in value than the other.
    The law of the squares also states that there is a division between these two states.
    Throughout my books you are shown hundreds of these samples. The one I shall discuss here is in
    reference to the animal termed Homo sapiens – that is correct, it represents you and me.
    Let us look at the law of the squares statements:
    1 There will be the non experts that representing the higher value.
    2 There will be experts that representing the lower value.
    3 Between these two states is a very small dividing line of inventors.
    Thus the law of the squares is up held.
    4 The non experts live in the today, not the yesterday nor the tomorrow.
    5 The expert does not live in the today but rather in the 1,000 to 5 years of the past.
    6 The inventor lives in the tomorrow, for he or she creates the future that is to be.
    Without inventors there would be no tomorrows but a continuation of the today, thus never changing
    in any manner except for the change of seasons.
    Inventors are labelled as living in a world of fantasy, while the so called experts claim to live in a
    world of reality; ironically, that very claim proves that their world came from the world of fantasy by
    those who suffered and struggled to create the present reality that these experts claim as their right.
    Before any one can conceive a concept to generate some new invention a number of triggers have to
    be in place.
    .
    1. The brain must be free from all conventional brainwashing so that the sub-conscious can freely
    communicate to the conscious mind. Thus between these two states the data stored can be
    made active by the correct input of our body’s sensors.
    2 There must be information stored in the brain either at the time of its conception or gained
    after birth at the expense of time.
    3 Once the correct triggers have been stimulated so that the conscious or sub-conscious mind can
    start searching and assembling a dream or a thought wave, data makes its way to the conscious
    mind of the owner and impresses the owner with the possibility of creating a new project.
    4 It is extremely unlikely that you can invent because the brain that creates does so based on
    information that was invented already by brains of the past; even as far back as the day man
    first appeared upon planet earth.
    5 My work is based on the success of hundreds of inventors before me; my work has just
    extended their work. They invented the materials, tools and equipment that make it possible
    for me to extend their work.
    6 Within the laws of nature there is nothing impossible except that the state of your mind makes
    it so. And it is your mind which has and still does delay progress for a better world then we
    have today.
    7 In my case; the sub-conscience assembled an extremely simple game which strangely contains
    the mathematics which is required to achieve this technology, without that input there is no
    S.E.G. or I.G.V. Anyone making such claims is talking out their rear end, what a shame to
    waste such energy.
    8 It also gives much information on science and technology, which was a blessing as I had no
    need to go to school to learn it.
    9 The device is basically a linear motor riding on a magnetic bearing; in reality there are three
    such units in one body.
    10 Its characteristics are similar to that of an autotransformer; again three such devices in one
    body.
    11 From the inner unit which generates its own output that feeds into the second unit that is also
    generating its own, but much greater output, is therefore boosted vastly by the input from the
    first unit. The second unit output is then feed into the third unit which also is generating a
    much larger output is again vastly increased by the input from the second unit.
    12 Every operation of the S.E.G. follows Newton’s laws precisely, these experts’ claims that it is
    not possible are just protecting their image of importance. Such has always been the case since
    this animal called Homo sapiens arrive upon the planet earth and will always exist until the
    end of time.
    13 Not only is the problem to design and test the specialised equipment to undertake this research;
    but one of the real major problems is that there are far too many of this species that suffer from
    an obsessive compulsive disorder that functions on ignorance and greed. There is no more
    dangerous combination that has so far managed to delay this technology from reaching its
    marketplace, and would had done so back in 1968 and again in 2003 if it was not for the
    effects relating to this disease.
    14 Today for the fifth time efforts to recreate this technology are moving forward but cost is the
    greatest problem which increases each year that it takes to reach the marketplace. There is yet
    another major problem for delay. This is that the man involved has to live and therefore has to
    maintain a job by which he can survive and find from his pocket that cost which is involved.
    Time is related to availability of hard cash and spare time to work on it. It also requires
    absolute dedication and devotion and faith for its success and this man has all three
    requirements for such a success.
    15 This world is dying from pollution factors which this technology offers a solution that no other
    technology can offer. Yet everyone ignores its possibilities because the power man of today
    would loose profit by such a technology being available on the marketplace.
    16 Yet it would slowly halt this hurrican forming problem now greatly being experienced along
    the U.S.A. coast line, which will eventually reach places like Canada and even the UK if we
    allow this global warming to increase.
    17 Is it humane for life and property to be destroyed in the name of ignorance and greed?
    18 You may wonder if the S.E.G. output is Direct Current or Alternating Current. It is an
    Alternating Current at very high voltage that has to be passed through a step down transformer
    for the voltage required like all other power systems available today; current is proportional to
    the voltage.
    19 Rare earths play an important part in the success of the S.E.G. operation. The one that has
    become the keystone of my work is Nd because everyone wants to follow the same one that I
    used in 1946. It is far from the best but it is the first choice for cost and availability.
    20 One major problem is that it looses electrons to the air. As such it will oxidize in air. This can
    be prevented by the following means:
    1 Keep it in argon while not in use which is the better choice; or in oil which is the
    choice that I do not prefer.
    2 Or mix 1% of another rare earth which does not loose electrons to the air that will
    block the Nd from loosing its electrons to the air.
    3 As you move up the element chart there are better options to use. Also it makes the
    S.E.G. smaller for the same output.
    21 To experts it’s impossible as they had stated about the cycle, motor car, Train, Plane,
    Electricity, gas, telephone, and television and space travel plus everything else made or done
    by man, in reality they were confirming that it could be done, and it was only done by those
    who lived in the world of fantasy, for it is only such people who are capable of free thinking
    by which progress in advancing man’s knowledge can be achieved.
    22 Everything made by man came out of the world of fantasy which existed there before man ever
    appeared on earth including all inventions of the future have been here since time began. But
    before any such invention can be brought forth from the world of fantasy into the world of
    reality some ingenious person must tune in to it; that action requires a set of triggers in a
    precise order of events and then and only then will such products become available to
    mankind.
    23 Though the S.E.G. is a marvellous device it can only reduce the pollution problem which helps
    to reduce global warming that will give trees and animals a chance to survive. It will require
    everyone to help to clean up this planet as we made the mess due to our lack of knowledge and
    understanding and replant trees which in our ignorance have been cut down. These are urgent
    requirements to block the creation of hurricanes and tornados.
    24 It takes about 30 years before a tree can fully function in its duty cycle in reducing this global
    warming, clearly the need is present today to start a massive replacement task in the effort to
    balance nature to our advantage, otherwise it will be to our disadvantage.
    25 If you really care for your children’s health and well fare then you must act today and help
    clean up these problems, To assist me to do my best to help nature to recover from our wrongs
    which we have done and are still doing.
    26 Listen to our children who have no tomorrows if we don’t care; our ignorance and greed is
    killing this planet. If we don’t stop our destruction of this planet there will be no tomorrows
    for anyone. There will be just a resting place for our remains.

    https://www.searleffect.com/free/press/U...RTICLE.pdf

    I have also studied Hermetics, which has had an impact on me because I feel the nature of the information is correct.

    The hermetics say that there are degrees to things, such as example being love and hate are the same thing just different polarities.

    Ra says there are no polarities. I just can't wrap my head around there being no polarity. I'm stuck. Can anyone unstick me? Please?

    Ra is said to, from their temporal perspective, be about to reach 7D. Thus, they convey terms that may look foreign or confusing to people dwelling in 3D.

    Could you convince a resolute soldier who fights a war that there is no polarity, without infringing their free will and thus doing a disservice?

    There are personal life plans, which, in Ra's terms, is the dynamic between Higher Self and the incarnated individual. Since one's 3D body is somewhat designed to perceive time sequentially, the concept of no polarity, which is understood more appropriately at mid-sixth density, according to Ra:

    Ra, 70.11 Wrote:The seeming contradictions of determinism and free will melt when it is accepted that there is such a thing as true simultaneity.

    In other words, in Ra's evolutionary teachings, one develops compassion, empathy, acceptance, the ability to see the Self in others, and vice-versa, in order to withstand the 4D characteristic energies. That is to say, to be able to irradiate Infinity fully and deeply, be this irradiation's balance pending more inwards or outwards.

    The wisdom aspect is often belittled in 3D where there is seldom a full understanding of Other-Selves, and also rarely the full understanding of the Self. Refer to the neurological, psychoanalytical, biological, and social relations and aspects to learn about the Self and about Other-Selves, if you wish.

    Guess what happens when the distance between a singularity and its' event horizon is non-existent? Unity. The polarities, the duality are dissolved.

    The head is as much of a gateway as the heart. The feeling is as much a gateway as the thinking. However, who can truly and fully achieve the perfect balance between these two apparently immiscible expression forms?

    Know the Truth, and the Truth shall set you free.
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