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    Thread: The Four Elements


    loostudent (Offline)

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    #31
    08-17-2019, 03:43 AM
    Ra mentioned the Ezekiel's vision of the chariot (Merkabah/Merkavah/Mirkevet). This text became an important starting point in the Jewish mysticism (later Kabbalah). In this vision there were four divine beings and later in Christianity their faces were used as the symbols of the four gospels.

    Quote:... As for the likeness of their faces, each had the face of a man; each of the four had the face of a lion on the right side, each of the four had the face of an ox on the left side, and each of the four had the face of an eagle. Thus were their faces...

    Maybe these faces could also correspond to the four elements. Man - earth, eagle - air, lion - fire, ox - water.

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    #32
    12-04-2019, 01:05 PM
    OCCUIT PHILOSOPHY OE MAGIC
    BY THE FAMOUS MYSTIC
    HENRY CORNELIUS AGRIPPA

    https://ia802904.us.archive.org/12/items...00agri.pdf

    found interesting insight into the 4 elements if anyone is interested.....

    Of the Four Elements, their Qualities, and Mutual Mixtions.
    There are four Elements, and original grounds of all
    corporeal things—Fire, Earth, Water, Air—of which
    all elemented inferior bodies are compounded; not by
    way of heaping them up together, but by transmutation
    and union; and when they are destroyed they are
    resolved into Elements. For there is none of the
    sensible Elements that is pure, but they are more or
    the rest of the Elements are changed, as into this, so
    into one another successively. But it is the opinion of
    the subtler sort of Philosophers, that Earth is not
    changed, but relented and mixed with other Elements,
    which do dissolve it, and that it returns back into
    itself again.* Now, every one of the Elements hath
    two specifical qualities—the former whereof it retains
    as proper to itself; in the other, as a mean, it agrees
    with that which comes next after it. For Fire is hot
    and dry, the Earth dry and cold, the Water cold and
    moist, the Air moist and hot. f And so after this manner
    the Elements, according to two contrary qualities,
    are contrary one to the other, as Fire to Water, and
    Earth to Air.
    less mixed, and apt to be changed one into the other:
    Even as Earth becoming dirty, and being dissolved,
    becomes Water, and the same being made thick and
    hard, becometh Earth again; but being evaporated
    through heat, passeth into Air, and that being kindled,
    passeth into Fire ; and this being extinguished, returns
    back again into Air; but being cooled again after its
    burning, becomes Earth, or Stone, or Sulphur, and this
    is manifested by Lightning. Plato also was of that
    opinion, that Earth was wholly changeable, and that

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    Aion (Offline)

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    #33
    12-04-2019, 03:02 PM (This post was last modified: 12-04-2019, 03:06 PM by Aion.)
    (08-17-2019, 03:43 AM)loostudent Wrote: Ra mentioned the Ezekiel's vision of the chariot (Merkabah/Merkavah/Mirkevet). This text became an important starting point in the Jewish mysticism (later Kabbalah). In this vision there were four divine beings and later in Christianity their faces were used as the symbols of the four gospels.


    Quote:... As for the likeness of their faces, each had the face of a man; each of the four had the face of a lion on the right side, each of the four had the face of an ox on the left side, and each of the four had the face of an eagle. Thus were their faces...

    Maybe these faces could also correspond to the four elements. Man - earth, eagle - air, lion - fire, ox - water.

    https://occultarchives.tumblr.com/post/7...atures-but

    Quote:Cherubim

    ‘The cherubim are winged creatures, but the form of them does not resemble that of any living creature seen by man’ (Josephus).

    They signify presence of divinity and are guardians of the sacred and of the threshold.

    As tetramorphs cherubim are the quaternary of elemental powers guarding the centre of Paradise which is inaccessible to the unregenerate man.

    They combine the bull (Taurus), lion (Leo), eagle (Scorpio), and man (Aquarius), symbolizing the four elements, the four corners of the earth and, in Christianity, the four Evangelists.

    After the Seraphim they are the highest of the nine orders of angels.

    In heraldry a cherub is depicted as a child’s head (purity and innocence) between a pair of wings (spiritual nature).

    Yahweh is 'enthroned’ upon the cherbuim’ (I Sam. 4,4).

    The throne of the Temple of Jerusalem in the Holy of Holies was flanked by two cherubim and the throne was formed by their wings.

    In certain occult conventions they are considered to be the ruling intelligences of the Four Elements of Malkuth. Note the Zodiacal associations are all Fixed.
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    #34
    12-04-2019, 03:05 PM
    (12-04-2019, 01:05 PM)zvonimir Wrote: OCCUIT PHILOSOPHY OE MAGIC
    BY THE FAMOUS MYSTIC
    HENRY CORNELIUS AGRIPPA

    https://ia802904.us.archive.org/12/items...00agri.pdf

    found interesting insight into the 4 elements if anyone is interested.....

    Of the Four Elements, their Qualities, and Mutual Mixtions.
    There are four Elements, and original grounds of all
    corporeal things—Fire, Earth, Water, Air—of which
    all elemented inferior bodies are compounded; not by
    way of heaping them up together, but by transmutation
    and union; and when they are destroyed they are
    resolved into Elements. For there is none of the
    sensible Elements that is pure, but they are more or
    the rest of the Elements are changed, as into this, so
    into one another successively. But it is the opinion of
    the subtler sort of Philosophers, that Earth is not
    changed, but relented and mixed with other Elements,
    which do dissolve it, and that it returns back into
    itself again.* Now, every one of the Elements hath
    two specifical qualities—the former whereof it retains
    as proper to itself; in the other, as a mean, it agrees
    with that which comes next after it. For Fire is hot
    and dry, the Earth dry and cold, the Water cold and
    moist, the Air moist and hot. f And so after this manner
    the Elements, according to two contrary qualities,
    are contrary one to the other, as Fire to Water, and
    Earth to Air.
    less mixed, and apt to be changed one into the other:
    Even as Earth becoming dirty, and being dissolved,
    becomes Water, and the same being made thick and
    hard, becometh Earth again; but being evaporated
    through heat, passeth into Air, and that being kindled,
    passeth into Fire ; and this being extinguished, returns
    back again into Air; but being cooled again after its
    burning, becomes Earth, or Stone, or Sulphur, and this
    is manifested by Lightning. Plato also was of that
    opinion, that Earth was wholly changeable, and that

    Agrippa is a particularly close life to me. This is an alchemical approach to understanding of the Elements but Agrippa covered a lot of ground so doesn't have a lot of context on its own, however there is some very key information in this passage.

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    Nau7ik (Offline)

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    #35
    12-06-2019, 10:11 AM
    (08-17-2019, 03:43 AM)loostudent Wrote: Ra mentioned the Ezekiel's vision of the chariot (Merkabah/Merkavah/Mirkevet). This text became an important starting point in the Jewish mysticism (later Kabbalah). In this vision there were four divine beings and later in Christianity their faces were used as the symbols of the four gospels.

    Quote:... As for the likeness of their faces, each had the face of a man; each of the four had the face of a lion on the right side, each of the four had the face of an ox on the left side, and each of the four had the face of an eagle. Thus were their faces...

    Maybe these faces could also correspond to the four elements. Man - earth, eagle - air, lion - fire, ox - water.

    Yes they correspond to the fixed Zodiacal signs (as Aion mentioned) which then correspond to the elements.

    Man = Aquarius = Air
    Eagle = Scorpio = Water
    Bull = Taurus = Earth
    Lion = Leo = Fire

    The Eagle is attributed to Water. Scorpio has a few symbols: the scorpion, the serpent, and the eagle.

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