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    09-20-2020, 12:54 AM
    The human body seems a bit clunky. For example, when taking in information one has to watch, listen or read and slowly wait for it to unveil itself to the leaner. It is a bit of a slow process most of the time whereby the main points are buried within a long explanation.

    Does anyone else feel like the abilities of the human body seem counter-intuitive to the mind of the wanderer?

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    09-20-2020, 08:51 AM
     
    On this planet we have definitely set the game to a very high level of difficulty.  What you are describing is part of that.  Some sources says that this place is actually the most difficult one in the Universe.

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    09-20-2020, 09:08 AM (This post was last modified: 09-20-2020, 09:09 AM by Ymarsakar.)
    (09-20-2020, 12:54 AM)KaliSouth Wrote: The human body seems a bit clunky. For example, when taking in information one has to watch, listen or read and slowly wait for it to unveil itself to the leaner. It is a bit of a slow process most of the time whereby the main points are buried within a long explanation.

    Does anyone else feel like the abilities of the human body seem counter-intuitive to the mind of the wanderer?

    Be like Edgar Cayce and others. Put the book underneath bed, sleep, and wake up with the infor. May need more nights to process.

    Many things are counter intuitive if you are used to instant manifestation, teleportation, flying where you want when you want immediately, and tele empathic communication methods (better tha nFacebook)

    Imagine a guy with 21st century technology thrown into a world with 6th century technology. Yea, humans already imagined it, but that is where here is.

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    09-20-2020, 01:57 PM
    I want to learn so many things to understand this planet but it just takes too much time so I know a bit about a lot.

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    09-21-2020, 11:00 AM (This post was last modified: 09-21-2020, 11:02 AM by Minyatur.)
    (09-20-2020, 08:51 AM)Patrick Wrote: Some sources says that this place is actually the most difficult one in the Universe.

    I'd steer clear from any material that claims such absolutes, especially in the idea that the Universe is infinite.

    In my opinion such thinkings aim at centering man in his own ego rather than the Universe, giving a sense of being apart from everything or adding lenses of doom to one's current experience.

    Ra said this regarding our experience:
    Quote:76.17 Questioner: Is this third-density choice the same throughout all of the creation of which you are aware?

    Ra: I am Ra. We are aware of creations in which third density is lengthier and more space/time is given to the choosing. However, the proportions remain the same, the dimensions all being somewhat etiolated and weakened by the Logos to have a variant experience of the Creator. This creation is seen by us to be quite vivid.

    76.18 Questioner: I didn’t understand what you meant by “seen to you as being quite vivid.” What do you mean?

    Ra: I am Ra. This creation is somewhat more condensed by its Logos than some other Logoi have chosen. Thus each experience of the Creator by the Creator in this system of distortions is, relatively speaking, more bright or, as we said, vivid.

    "More than some other" I think is more accurate.



    To answer the thread, I do believe these mental/bodily limits act as a strain upon the expression of spirit and is what allows it to be more efficiently refined through the incarnative experience.

    If you shine brightly without limits, then you are satisfied and unchanging. If on the contrary, you have to struggle to express your inner light then you will be dissatisfied and will seek to transform your inner light in shining through its shackles. The limits are what makes the experience purposeful for a wanderer.
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    09-21-2020, 11:31 AM (This post was last modified: 09-21-2020, 11:40 AM by Ymarsakar.)
    The world and universe is unknown. Thus it is equally true that this is the only planet of choice but that others are more designed to test weaknesses of individuals. The recycling issue is often described as a block here.

    When investigating, i would begin with what is a choice. That is covered in quoted session. Then what is a planet or what is a universr. The intent is to investigate the boundaries, what is allowed answers, to indirectly piece together the clues.

    The re definition of galaxy was a big clue.

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    09-21-2020, 11:39 AM
    (09-21-2020, 11:00 AM)Minyatur Wrote:
    (09-20-2020, 08:51 AM)Patrick Wrote: Some sources says that this place is actually the most difficult one in the Universe.

    I'd steer clear from any material that claims such absolutes, especially in the idea that the Universe is infinite.

    What I believe is that right now, this planet might be the worse case.  Maybe not in the Multiverse, but perhaps in this Universe.

    BUT once it's fixed here, there will be a next worst place that needs fixing and so on.  So we are not special in that sense, but the focus is here for now.  Then after that, the confederation will go help the next worst place.  And they all receive help at the same time of course because there is no time. Smile
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    09-21-2020, 12:53 PM
    (09-21-2020, 11:39 AM)Patrick Wrote: What I believe is that right now, this planet might be the worse case.  Maybe not in the Multiverse, but perhaps in this Universe.

    BUT once it's fixed here, there will be a next worst place that needs fixing and so on.  So we are not special in that sense, but the focus is here for now.  Then after that, the confederation will go help the next worst place.  And they all receive help at the same time of course because there is no time. Smile

    My favorite Q'uo quote is the one where they say that we are not here to fix it.

    Regarding the confederation, the material says this confederation is one of many and that this one is only concerned with the calling of 7 galaxies. I could agree with the idea that we could be the "worse" at this particular nexus among these select 7 galaxies, but even then I would not be so sure about that personally.

    Quote:16.33 Questioner: With such a large number of planets in this galaxy, I was wondering if— you say there are approximately five hundred Confederation planets. That seems to me to be a relatively small percentage of the total number of fourth- and fifth-density planets around. Is there any reason for this relatively small percentage in this Confederation?

    Ra: I am Ra. There are many Confederations. This Confederation works with the planetary spheres of seven of your galaxies, if you will, and is responsible for the callings of the densities of these galaxies.
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    #9
    09-21-2020, 12:56 PM
    Lol, even we were able to 'fix' it, then a test ground for the next wave of 3rd density seekers would be needed, BigSmile
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    09-21-2020, 01:03 PM (This post was last modified: 09-21-2020, 01:06 PM by Patrick.)
    (09-21-2020, 12:53 PM)Minyatur Wrote: My favorite Q'uo quote is the one where they say that we are not here to fix it.
    ...

    Mine too!  It's become my mantra actually. Smile  I am not here to fix it.  I am here to love it. (which would fix it if all were to love it as well Wink )

    (09-21-2020, 12:53 PM)Minyatur Wrote: ...
    Regarding the confederation, the material says this confederation is one of many and that this one is only concerned with the calling of 7 galaxies. I could agree with the idea that we could be the "worse" at this particular nexus among these select 7 galaxies, but even then I would not be so sure about that personally.



    Quote:16.33 Questioner: With such a large number of planets in this galaxy, I was wondering if— you say there are approximately five hundred Confederation planets. That seems to me to be a relatively small percentage of the total number of fourth- and fifth-density planets around. Is there any reason for this relatively small percentage in this Confederation?

    Ra: I am Ra. There are many Confederations. This Confederation works with the planetary spheres of seven of your galaxies, if you will, and is responsible for the callings of the densities of these galaxies.

    Thanks for this reminder !  I would completely agree with you.  Of course, for those involved, that might very well be their Universe.  A couple galaxies with all the densities and all the timelines.  That has to be a lot of the Creation to be aware of ! Smile

    EDIT:  Also, what if we can "see" all the octaves and those 7 galaxies are our current octave and the only ones we can currently experience until the end of 7D?

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    09-21-2020, 01:50 PM
    Doesn't Q'uo say on some of the transcripts that the illusion is quite strong on this planet?

    I wish I could just do a better job of absorbing all the information I want to to better help me in my day to day work/life. It's a slow push with this 3D vehicle.

    Other humans really exhaust me with their slow, small minds; I don't want to be as clueless and grasping as they are.

    I'm always praying to the angels, Lord Shiva, Lord Krishna and Mother Kali to give me the strenght to continue to live on Earth. They do help me as much as they can, so I can't complain about their efforts. I keep reminding myself this is not going to last forever. Eventually I will exit this planet according to plan.

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    09-21-2020, 02:03 PM
    (09-21-2020, 01:50 PM)KaliSouth Wrote: ...Other humans really exhaust me with their slow, small minds; I don't want to be as clueless and grasping as they are...

    I would say it is more a question of faith than slow or small minds. Smile

    After all, each of us, we only have this:

    [Image: candle.jpg]
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    #13
    09-21-2020, 02:04 PM
    You ever think maybe it's your body that is adjusting to you rather than the other way around?

    Like it's just trying to keep up with all our bullshit.
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    09-21-2020, 02:18 PM
    (09-21-2020, 02:03 PM)Patrick Wrote:
    (09-21-2020, 01:50 PM)KaliSouth Wrote: ...Other humans really exhaust me with their slow, small minds; I don't want to be as clueless and grasping as they are...

    I would say it is more a question of faith than slow or small minds. Smile

    After all, each of us, we only have this:

    [Image: candle.jpg]

    Faith can come in many forms. It does not even have to take the form of organised religion. You just need to take an interest beyond eating, procreating, sleeping, eating, procreating, sleeping, eating procreating, sleeping...

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    09-21-2020, 02:43 PM
    (09-21-2020, 02:18 PM)KaliSouth Wrote: Faith can come in many forms. It does not even have to take the form of organised religion. You just need to take an interest beyond eating, procreating, sleeping, eating, procreating, sleeping, eating procreating, sleeping...

    "...eating, procreating, sleeping, eating, procreating, sleeping, eating procreating, sleeping..."  Oh I like that part without the ,  Wink

    And you forgot TV !

    Quote:34.13 Questioner: What is the general overall effect of television on our society with respect to this catalyst?

    Ra: I am Ra. Without ignoring the green-ray attempts of many to communicate via this medium such information, truth, and beauty as may be helpful, we must suggest that the sum effect of this gadget is that of distraction and sleep.

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    09-21-2020, 09:50 PM (This post was last modified: 09-21-2020, 09:52 PM by Ymarsakar.)
    I am fine staying here another 1k years. So long as i can play watch the new stuff from japan.

    If the cabal tried to stop me, i will burn them in the central sun. They already crossed the line with this c19 doomsday trigger

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    09-22-2020, 12:48 AM
    TV or Netflix/Prime Video is a good addition.

    I censored myself when I wrote "eating, procreating, sleeping".

    If I had been true to myself I would have written "eat, s***, f***, sleep and repeat".

    My point is that the human body is built for that stuff, but it's a bit clunky when empowering oneself with knowledge.

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    09-23-2020, 11:42 PM
    (09-20-2020, 08:51 AM)Patrick Wrote:  
    On this planet we have definitely set the game to a very high level of difficulty.  What you are describing is part of that.  Some sources says that this place is actually the most difficult one in the Universe.

    This is my understanding of that issue, as well...

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    09-24-2020, 12:24 AM
    Human body has served me well, and I've put it through a lot. I'm pretty amazed at the elegance of its design. Honestly, in many ways it's a fun experience here on Earth, so very many distractions, with the mixture of STO and STS providing much thrill. I get why people stay here.
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    09-25-2020, 02:04 PM (This post was last modified: 09-25-2020, 03:25 PM by KaliSouth.)
    On Planet Earth it depends on where you end up. I can't imagine a poorly paid mineworker in the DRC or a struggling parent in India living in a shack trying hard to feed their children, for example, saying Earth is a fun experience. However, that is a topic for another thread.

    Learning about the state of various people that are living different lives on this planet requires a lot of time and energy. It's a slow, continuous chug to push yourself to be open finding information and taking it in in this physical body. It's up to us to take on the personal responsibility to learn about others and do what little we can to help. Maybe all these little bits add up and we've made a difference at the end of our incarnations.

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    09-25-2020, 02:53 PM
    I don't know, but I absolutely love my human body, particularly because of the subtlety of emotion it can experience.
    I also love the physicality of it. Though I do have ambitions to become trans-species.

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    09-25-2020, 04:15 PM
    (09-25-2020, 02:04 PM)KaliSouth Wrote: On Planet Earth it depends on where you end up. I can't imagine a poorly paid mineworker in the DRC or a struggling parent in India living in a shack trying hard to feed their children, for example, saying Earth is a fun experience. However, that is a topic for another thread.

    Learning about the state of various people that are living different lives on this planet requires a lot of time and energy. It's a slow, continuous chug to push yourself to be open finding information and taking it in in this physical body. It's up to us to take on the personal responsibility to learn about others and do what little we can to help. Maybe all these little bits add up and we've made a difference at the end of our incarnations.

    Many of those souls choosing hard lives, near graduation. It is those in cities and western luxuries that are often younger souls.

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    09-26-2020, 03:34 AM
    (09-25-2020, 04:15 PM)Ymarsakar Wrote:
    (09-25-2020, 02:04 PM)KaliSouth Wrote: On Planet Earth it depends on where you end up. I can't imagine a poorly paid mineworker in the DRC or a struggling parent in India living in a shack trying hard to feed their children, for example, saying Earth is a fun experience. However, that is a topic for another thread.

    Learning about the state of various people that are living different lives on this planet requires a lot of time and energy. It's a slow, continuous chug to push yourself to be open finding information and taking it in in this physical body. It's up to us to take on the personal responsibility to learn about others and do what little we can to help. Maybe all these little bits add up and we've made a difference at the end of our incarnations.

    Many of those souls choosing hard lives, near graduation. It is those in cities and western luxuries that are often younger souls.

    Younger? You mean lesser experienced in 3D? The Creator is eternal, therefore all souls (which are part of the Creator) are eternal.

    Maybe some souls are on their own journey so they don't mind being in a vehicle that requires a process to take in information about the various types of 3D experiences. I have a thirst to know more about more, so it does seem laborious.

    It takes time to understand the perspective of the person who is suffering in their incarnarnation because of STS entities, such as we see in international politics where there is an exploitative system, or where there is an individual or group of individuals who is lost in illusion and therefore mistreats others.

    One can declare that Planet Earth is a wonderful place but the effect of the illusion is strong and there may be pockets of "wonderfulness" but our love has to extend to the world where there is no "wonderfulness", to the souls who are a majority, living under persecution, violence, discrimination. I find this to be a tricky process, because one has to be willing to learn about the world beyond that which we interact with. And honestly, some people are hard to love.

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    09-26-2020, 10:14 AM (This post was last modified: 10-03-2020, 10:08 AM by Nau7ik. Edit Reason: One does *NOT* (very important, big mistake I made) )
    There are subtle bodily transformations that occur during the process of initiation which prepare the body to be able to hold higher states of consciousness. The Body Archetypes of the Ra Material describe the process. In general, Keys 8-14 are archetypes of the body and show us the process of transformation of the body.

    Key 8–Strength, is assigned the Hebrew letter Teth ט and the zodiac sign Leo. Teth signifies a serpent, even the letter looks like it. The serpent-power is the Kindalini, the Fohat, or cosmic electricity. This pertains to the energy body and initiated higher levels of attainment in the body.

    Key 11–Justice, assigned Libra and Lamed ל. Lamed and Libra are all about balance, poise, and equilibration. Lamed is the serpent force now activated. It has for its goal balance, which is effected by the active administration of cosmic law and forces.

    Key 12–The Hanged Man is probably one of the most important as it indicates a reversal of thinking and action contrary to what most people think and do. It indicates the “suspended mind”. The man hangs off a Tau-cross. He realizes that his personality is totally dependent upon the One Life. These realizations initiates subconscious changes in the body which prepare it for a greater intensity of Light. These changes, for example, have to do with the blood and hormone secretion.

    Anyway, I just wanted to point of that the Tarot Keys can help us learn about the transformation of the body, which will prepare us and initiate us into being about to hold more Light, to experience higher states of consciousness safely.

    One does NOT need to do anything to rouse the “fiery serpent.” When we are ready we will receive the necessary instruction. Otherwise it’s dangerous to play around with the serpent force.
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    09-26-2020, 11:42 AM
    (09-26-2020, 10:14 AM)Nau7ik Wrote: There are subtle bodily transformations that occur during the process of initiation which prepare the body to be able to hold higher states of consciousness. The Body Archetypes of the Ra Material describe the process. In general, Keys 8-14 are archetypes of the body and show us the process of transformation of the body.

    Key 8–Strength, is assigned the Hebrew letter Teth ט and the zodiac sign Leo. Teth signifies a serpent, even the letter looks like it. The serpent-power is the Kindalini, the Fohat, or cosmic electricity. This pertains to the energy body and initiated higher levels of attainment in the body.

    Key 11–Justice, assigned Libra and Lamed ל. Lamed and Libra are all about balance, poise, and equilibration. Lamed is the serpent force now activated. It has for its goal balance, which is effected by the active administration of cosmic law and forces.

    Key 12–The Hanged Man is probably one of the most important as it indicates a reversal of thinking and action contrary to what most people think and do. It indicates the “suspended mind”. The man hangs off a Tau-cross. He realizes that his personality is totally dependent upon the One Life. These realizations initiates subconscious changes in the body which prepare it for a greater intensity of Light. These changes, for example, have to do with the blood and hormone secretion.

    Anyway, I just wanted to point of that the Tarot Keys can help us learn about the transformation of the body, which will prepare us and initiate us into being about to hold more Light, to experience higher states of consciousness safely.

    One does need to do anything to rouse the “fiery serpent.” When we are ready we will receive the necessary instruction. Otherwise it’s dangerous to play around with the serpent force.

    Thank you, Nau7ik!

    What you are saying is that I just need to keep going along the spiritual path and the body will become more adept at learning? That's lovely.

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