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    #1
    09-28-2020, 08:00 PM (This post was last modified: 09-28-2020, 08:02 PM by Hanalove.)
    I am new to this site but not to the Law of One teachings. I really need advice and figured this was the best place to find it.

    I recently became aware of an individual claiming to channel Ra. She does it live On YouTube and talks about conspiracies and gives specific advice about how people should live their lives. It all seems very fear based. She gives in person seminars and the person I learned this from attended one and was terrified of negative entities. She kept mentioning the Law of One and Ra but seemed to know very little. When I told her about the original channelings she was surprised and when I told her what I knew (I’m on the fourth book) she kept turning the conversation to negative entities. Following our meeting I looked up her “teacher” and it was clear to me that either she is a fraud or she herself is channeling negative entities. I just met this person but discovered the friend that introduced me to her has also attended the seminar. I feel compelled to warn them but at the same time I feel like advising them would be taking away their free will. Which choice is that of service to others? I can see both aspects in either choice. I am very worried and find myself being sucked into negative fear based thinking. This person says she herself gets direct messages and at times it feels like she is almost reading my mind. I feel like I’ve possibly psychically opened myself up to negatively oriented entities. Am I being crazy? What should I do? How do I get back to love?
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    #2
    09-28-2020, 08:23 PM (This post was last modified: 09-28-2020, 08:24 PM by flofrog.)
    I would stay away, and perhaps laugh it off, nothing like humor. But that’s me..
    Best wishes Wink
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    09-28-2020, 08:49 PM
    In my opinion, it's okay to share your perspective, as long as you aren't attached to the outcome.

    However, I think, if it were me, that I would steer clear of the whole thing, and laugh it off as Flofrog suggested. Youtube is a sea of BS and people claiming all sorts of things.

    If you are worried about being sucked into anything, then my advice is to stop giving it any of your attention. Just go on with your life, and put your energy elsewhere.
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    09-28-2020, 08:49 PM
     
    As with anything in life, you should trust your intuition.  I believe I know who you are talking about.  Based on my own intuition, I myself has zero resonance with that source.

    You may simply discontinue contact with that source.  In my opinion, there is no need to warn people, we all have this capacity to know for ourselves what is right for us.  Of course, if you are asked why you discontinued contact, then you may share your reasons.  That is how I would handle it personally.

    As for how you get back to love.  Love never left you, all you need to do is make your intent clear to your guidance system what your preference is.  If you prefer the experience of light and love and no longer wish to experience that fear, just put this out to the Universe, just thank the Universe for honoring your new intent.  This is a great way of asking for something, you thank it into existence.

    I wish you the awareness of the love and the light from your guidance team and to find your self at peace and safe in that knowing, if that is also your wish.

    Heart Heart Heart
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    09-28-2020, 09:21 PM (This post was last modified: 09-28-2020, 09:24 PM by BrotherInWaiting.)
    I wouldn't have any fears. If it is true that she IS channelling another entity, I would also feel that it isn't actually Ra, who the readings indicate is only receivable by an exceptionally talented individual (edit: group of 3 or however many there were) under total psychic subjugation or whatever you might call it -- Carla was not conscious during the readings I think.

    Anyway, some negative being can probably tell what you're feeling to a certain degree, what of it. You're safe I feel.

    The big trick the negative beings play is acting way more powerful than you. It's a lie.
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    09-28-2020, 11:01 PM
    (09-28-2020, 08:00 PM)Hanalove Wrote: I feel like I’ve possibly psychically opened myself up to negatively oriented entities. Am I being crazy? What should I do? How do I get back to love?

    Hi there.

    With all due respect to previous posters, when I feel uneasy about possible negative influence, I absolutely do not just laugh it off.  First, it's not terribly efficient use of catalyst and, second, if your concern is sincere, then ignoring it is not a particularly kind way to respect your own feelings, in my view.

    You might consider putting your concern for your friends to the side for a time and centering on your own imbalance. 

    You asked the key question, "How do I return to love?"  One thing you might do is quietly, intensely focus yourself on what you love most deeply, on what causes you to melt with adoration or affection or devotion or sublimity or radiance.  Dwell there for a substantive period of time--as a gift to yourself--and allow those feelings to cleanse you.  Next, draw to you those who love you: family, virtuous people you know, your spirit helpers, angels.....  Confederation sources advise repeatedly that your unseen helpers cannot act in your life until you ask them to do so.  What you are asking for is simply their presence, and in that love and light you may experience yourself as fluid with what you are underneath the Earthly disguise.  Offer yourself this repeatedly over time, not just once or twice and your reconnection with love may become much easier. 

    (As Patrick noted, the love didn't really go anywhere, but at times when you feel cut off from it, this world can quickly become a frightening place...even for a crusty old dude like me!)

    All of that is "out of time," independent of your immediate concerns, but it can offer you some grounding upon which to make your choices..

    A comment about free will.  Simply offering a possible course of action, human to human (as I just did above), is not regarded as an abridgement of another's free will.  Coercion, trickery, etc. are obviously different, and in the realm of the unseen, it's considered an abridgement if a spirit gives you direct advice because of there being a bias on our part towards thinking that if you're dead, you're smarter or better informed than the living.  On a human-to-human level of conversation you don't have that restriction.  They can look at you and say, you're human and I'm human so my opinion is as good as yours, exactly the way I hope you take what I've typed here.

    Who is better informed, the living or those only of subtle form?  "Those who repose within their own heart," is the answer I would offer you.
      
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    09-28-2020, 11:20 PM (This post was last modified: 09-28-2020, 11:35 PM by flofrog.)
    Peregrine that’s very true, laugh it off is probably not the best thing to do. Thank you. Hanalove, i think peregrine’s view is very wise and kind.
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    09-29-2020, 03:39 PM
    Thank you peregrine for you’re insightful response. It’s funny. The thing that I see as being so wrong is the very thing I’m experiencing. This woman promotes fear but I AM afraid by what this implies. Ive discovered there are so many like her. And its not just out there. It’s here. In my community, in my home, around my children. I accepted negative influence but my naive mind equated it to the rich and powerful or sociopaths. But I guess psychic attacks can happen to anyone. Perhaps the difference is knowing they are negative. But this is a physical person promoting fear and dualistic thinking in the name of Ra. People will either follow the negative path or be completely turned off by the Law of One. I not only feel responsible to advise those I know but all those I don’t. All those people mindlessly following and praising her for her protection and wisdom. It’s sickening. I also feel anger.

    But I am torn. It still feels like it’s not my place. That everyone has their own path and maybe it’s a catalyst they need for their own spiritual evolution. Also, I am directly asking for advice so it is my choice to receive your response. Does it take away free will to give advice when it’s not asked for? I’m also very afraid that speaking up will put a target on me or my family. It may sound crazy but I feel like I am already. I can’t shake these negative thoughts or feelings. My need to take action is based more on fear than love. I believe It was said that psychic attacks build off of preexisting thoughts or ailments. I just need to have love in my heart and all will be well. Just not sure how to get there. I feel like acceptance is the answer but it’s so hard.



    (09-28-2020, 11:01 PM)peregrine Wrote:
    (09-28-2020, 08:00 PM)Hanalove Wrote: I feel like I’ve possibly psychically opened myself up to negatively oriented entities. Am I being crazy? What should I do? How do I get back to love?

    Hi there.

    With all due respect to previous posters, when I feel uneasy about possible negative influence, I absolutely do not just laugh it off.  First, it's not terribly efficient use of catalyst and, second, if your concern is sincere, then ignoring it is not a particularly kind way to respect your own feelings, in my view.

    You might consider putting your concern for your friends to the side for a time and centering on your own imbalance. 

    You asked the key question, "How do I return to love?"  One thing you might do is quietly, intensely focus yourself on what you love most deeply, on what causes you to melt with adoration or affection or devotion or sublimity or radiance.  Dwell there for a substantive period of time--as a gift to yourself--and allow those feelings to cleanse you.  Next, draw to you those who love you: family, virtuous people you know, your spirit helpers, angels.....  Confederation sources advise repeatedly that your unseen helpers cannot act in your life until you ask them to do so.  What you are asking for is simply their presence, and in that love and light you may experience yourself as fluid with what you are underneath the Earthly disguise.  Offer yourself this repeatedly over time, not just once or twice and your reconnection with love may become much easier. 

    (As Patrick noted, the love didn't really go anywhere, but at times when you feel cut off from it, this world can quickly become a frightening place...even for a crusty old dude like me!)

    All of that is "out of time," independent of your immediate concerns, but it can offer you some grounding upon which to make your choices..

    A comment about free will.  Simply offering a possible course of action, human to human (as I just did above), is not regarded as an abridgement of another's free will.  Coercion, trickery, etc. are obviously different, and in the realm of the unseen, it's considered an abridgement if a spirit gives you direct advice because of there being a bias on our part towards thinking that if you're dead, you're smarter or better informed than the living.  On a human-to-human level of conversation you don't have that restriction.  They can look at you and say, you're human and I'm human so my opinion is as good as yours, exactly the way I hope you take what I've typed here.

    Who is better informed, the living or those only of subtle form?  "Those who repose within their own heart," is the answer I would offer you.
      

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    09-29-2020, 05:09 PM
    The state of your pondering seems healthy to me. You are processing things positively from my perspective.

    I believe it's true that sharing your opinion even without it being asked can only minimally affect freewill since you are veiled yourself. I would just suggest that you find a way of warning people in a way that will not add even more fear to the situation.

    Also, regarding being targeted. This in my opinion is unfortunately true, but is not as dire as it may seem. Any light worker is going to be targeted by 4d negative influences. But their work is mostly subtle and is easily protected against once you succeed in processing your fears that are presenting themselves.

    Love is the great protector, but what does that mean? It can be as simple as smiling. The exercise of trying to observe the fear instead of being fearful takes some practice. What it looks like is that you still feel that fear but by smiling at yourself you raise it to the light. It takes away some of the weight of that fear. This becomes easier with practice. The first attempt is the harder but is also the cornerstone.

    I remember when I first discovered the material. Fearing the negatives and them giving me chills in the lower legs. Which of course freaked me out even more. It's from Eckhart Tolle that I took this trick of putting a smile on my lips. I did not feel like smiling at all. But I did it and amazingly it works. It's not instantaneous one bit but it does work and gets easier to do.
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    09-29-2020, 07:58 PM
    (09-29-2020, 03:39 PM)Hanalove Wrote: But I am torn.

    I think this is the crux, of your angst, not as much the specific content, as the feeling of it moving two halves of you in different directions--or trying to.  I suspect that the visceral concern for your hitherto wholeness is much more in play than any extrinsic dark power.  I.e., it's your own inner power that is scratching at you.

    Reading the tea leaves thuswise, they say that you're just gonna have to find yourself a new sense of wholeness, one which can hold both the light and the dark as inseparable partners which interweave the fabric of mystery and illusion.
      
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    09-30-2020, 01:24 PM
    It is completely understandable that you are caught up in these conflicting feelings.  Fear is a very powerful motivator as can be seen even in yourself.  It is not a minor thing to be able to see yourself acting in this way, even if you do feel confused about what to do with it.  I echo other posters in that your love is not any further removed from you, but is simply not where your attention resides.  I would try to bring your focus back to the things that fulfill you and the people that you love.  Peregrine has great suggestions on that part.

    I would also encourage you to have compassion for your struggle in this. You clearly do care about people and want to be helpful to them, to offer redirection away from what certainly seems like a disastrous course.  You are also concerned about not broaching another's free will.

    Fear, however, does have value.  What does your fear say to you?  What does it say about you?  What does it want to validate in you?  What does it not want to lose?  When you are able to approach your fear from a more sturdy position, it would be skillful to consider these questions.  And should you find yourself overwhelmed and lost, ask yourself if you can love yourself even now when the answers do not come or cause great discomfort.

    In regards to free will, I suggest placing much less weight upon this issue.  Disagreement, criticism, and advisement are all quite agreed upon as part of our contract as living beings that have no clue about anything at all.  You, your friend, and the youtuber have no special authority over any other.  I mean this gently: does it not seem quite convenient to your personal sense of control that your words have the ability to so influence another that it shall turn them away from their own will?  And why must the Law of One be protected at all? Just the same, it has no authority.  There are many sources which offer the same ideas, and should a person need such direction, they will find it regardless; even if it is by their own revelation.  I sense that there is concern about trusting your own experiences and direction, as well as others'.  Are you able to trust yourself even in bewildering darkness?  Are you able to trust others to be exactly what they are?
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    12-17-2020, 01:14 PM
    (09-28-2020, 08:00 PM)Hanalove Wrote: I recently became aware of an individual claiming to channel Ra. She does it live On YouTube and talks about conspiracies and gives specific advice about how people should live their lives. It all seems very fear based.

    Hi may I know her YouTube channel name?

    Quote:She gives in person seminars and the person I learned this from attended one and was terrified of negative entities. She kept mentioning the Law of One and Ra but seemed to know very little. When I told her about the original channelings she was surprised and when I told her what I knew (I’m on the fourth book) she kept turning the conversation to negative entities. Following our meeting I looked up her “teacher” and it was clear to me that either she is a fraud or she herself is channeling negative entities. I just met this person but discovered the friend that introduced me to her has also attended the seminar. I feel compelled to warn them but at the same time I feel like advising them would be taking away their free will. Which choice is that of service to others? I can see both aspects in either choice. I am very worried and find myself being sucked into negative fear based thinking. This person says she herself gets direct messages and at times it feels like she is almost reading my mind. I feel like I’ve possibly psychically opened myself up to negatively oriented entities. Am I being crazy? What should I do? How do I get back to love?


    Negative entities, or let's call it "Negs" for short are not an 'endangered species', they can be found nearly anywhere.
    You might have them attached to you, I might have them, they might have them, anyone can have them.
    It can be helpful for you to know 'what they are', 'how they work' and 'what are they looking for'.
    You will then start to 'understand' them... and it's a positive step, as when you understand you will no longer fear them.

    Yes.. their characteristics are 'negative emotions', fear, anger, sadness, guilt, envy, greed, hate etc..
    Once you 'know' them.. identifying them is an easy task..

    Just like a detective, a green cadet, a fresh graduate from the police academy might have difficulties on differentiating between truthful and lying witnesses. But after many years of exposure to both type of witnesses he can easily identify both lies and truthful testimony using merely 'gut feelings'.

    So yes.. the first step, don't be afraid of them.
    Next about 'how do I get back to love'.
    Here's the thing.. the proper treatment towards 'negs' is to actually love them.
    Sending them love and light energy.. and not try to 'fight' them... because they're basically looking for a 'fight'..
    But you can only do that after you do not fear them and understand them...

    About 'capability to read your mind', yes they are capable of 'telepathy'...
    But again.. so are you!
    Telepathy is a two way street.
    Just like an 'attachment' is a two way street.
    You are also capable of reading 'their mind', actually when you have positive emotions, you are more capable than they are to read their mind and more over also 'influence' their mind. Helping them to transform from '-' to "+".

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    12-18-2020, 07:29 PM
    It is right when we question anything as it could be a sign we are attempting to discern something. None of us will be perfect and it is by way of mistakes we learn our most valuable lessons. However, it is always a good practice to ask well read Ra Material seekers about other Ra channels.

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