What's the Point of Jim McCarty?

[Sacred Fool]

  

Welcome to My Rant, All Ye Who Dare to Enter.
 
   
I pose the titular query partially in response to the wee meme I see now again where people seem to fetishize a Love/Light dichotomy between Carla Rueckert (CR) and Donald Elkins (DE).  And yet I see no fan club in the works for Jim McCarty--not that I think there should be one--but I'm guessing most people just don't get the point of Jim McCarty.  And yet, if they did understand him better, they might read the Ra Material and the surrounding narrative a tiny bit differently.

Now, please, dear reader, get this much straight at the beginning: Jim McCarty is a complex individual and this thread does not intend in any way to discuss his private thoughts, his private life or God knows what else he's into.  This is intended to be a discussion of symbols, not real people.  And this brings me nicely to my next point.

When I read people going on about how DE represents rational thinking and science or CR represents love and feeling, this can feel sooooo cartoonish. I sometimes think I'm a child again watching a Scooby-Doo episode where there's the tall, dark, brooding, mysterious genius character and the short, beaming, embracing, chorister librarian character.  But what's with the gardener guy who has no super powers?  Is he just the maintenance man, a supporting character needed to move the plot along?  In the real LLR story, is he merely playing a supporting role as scribe while the two stars, the Instrument and the Questioner, do all the important work?

Well, here's my obnoxiously outspoken view on this.  I think that what most everyone cannot see is that Jim McCarty symbolizes the synthesis and the balancing of the Love and the Light, something which exceeded the grasp (symbolically speaking) of his two fellow characters.  Correlative to this, I would aver that this tidbit of insight is drastically under appreciated because most of us identify primarily with one end of the see-saw or the other, but not with the fulcrum.  Jim lives at the fulcrum.

I don't think it's possible to argue this point, so you can just accept it or reject it as you wish, but I can describe it a little bit.  If you listen to the LLR podcast, Jim is as much a disembodied talking head as the rest of them.  And yet, from what's public about his intimate relationship with (CR), he clearly also has a bias towards love and service.

I've met Jim a couple of times at the Homecoming events. and initially this involved transporting me--and others--from our hotel to the event site.  He was polite and glad to help. and also glad to get that chore over with so that he could do other things.  This struck me as being well balanced.

Another interesting aspect about him is that he never joins the group when we go out to eat supper at local restaurants.  Instead, he stays home and meditates, and he can not understand why everyone else doesn't do the same.  After all, there's no better game in town than meditation. Now, this might have you wondering, "You call that being balanced?"  But think about it.  Which is the greater service, sitting near someone while you eat your meal or meditating upon the sublimity of existence?  Some would say that the true, more balanced answer is the latter.

Well, this is my understanding of this matter, and I ask you not to disagree with me and burst my bubble, or I might cry.  Or, maybe I should just go meditate like Jim McCarty?
  

[Black Dragon]

  



Well, here's my obnoxiously outspoken view on this.  I think that what most everyone cannot see is that Jim McCarty symbolizes the synthesis and the balancing of the Love and the Light, something which exceeded the grasp (symbolically speaking) of his two fellow characters.  Correlative to this, I would aver that this tidbit of insight is drastically under appreciated because most of us identify primarily with one end of the see-saw or the other, but not with the fulcrum.  Jim lives at the fulcrum.


  

This.

[Jade]

Actually, what Ra says is that Jim represents "power" in the trio, this I believe being representative of a strongly crystallized yellow ray, something Don and Carla also both lacked.

Jim tells the story himself that he wasn't able to fully open his heart chakra until a specific event that happened after Carla's death. He had anger issues and would often take out that anger on his "things" and break them. After a particularly unfortunate event, he went deep into prayer and had a breakthrough.

Ra does confirm that Jim is a 6th density wanderer in a certain session, so I do think ultimately at this stage in his life, he's been able to balance love and wisdom in a significant way. But Ra says his lesson was to balance his overabundance of wisdom with love, a common theme for many wanderers.

I have championed for Jim before because relegating him as "the scribe" really minimizes his contribution. The contact began 3 weeks after Jim moved in, him being a very key component. And the manifestation of that key component was his ability to transfer physical energy to Carla through sexual energy transfers, as she would have never been able to perform the exhausting service of channeling Ra through trance without Jim's assistance. Jim was also a key component because Carla was frail and had to reserve her energy for the contact, and Don spent all of his time working as a pilot or working on his research. So Jim was the one who took care of the mundane tasks and chores that kept the day-to-day life of the group functioning.

75.39 Questioner: Then is it correct that a good sequence for developing the invocation of the magical personality are alternate meditations, first on power, then a meditation on love, and then a meditation on wisdom and to continue cycling that way? Is that an appropriate technique?

Ra: I am Ra. This is indeed an appropriate technique. In this particular group there is an additional aid in that each entity manifests one of these qualities in a manner which approaches the archetype. Thusly visualization may be personalized and much love and support within the group generated.

[Sacred Fool]

Ra: I am Ra. This is indeed an appropriate technique. In this particular group there is an additional aid in that each entity manifests one of these qualities in a manner which approaches the archetype. Thusly visualization may be personalized and much love and support within the group generated.

Thanks for that contribution (your post), Jade.  I have a rather divergent guess about why Ra said Jim manifests power nearly to an archetypal extent. 

And, btw, you'd sure as hell never think this by just looking at him.  He does resemble Ghengis Khan even a little bit.

But Ra sees stuff we don't, and they prioritize what they see differently.  This is to say, I don't believe they were making a reference to his yellow ray capabilities, but to his metaphysical signature formed by many, many lifetimes of studying power, both for good and for ill, to the point where these are highly balanced and refined (and somewhat hidden) deep within his subtle being.  It never occurred to me to ask hm about it, but I imagine some of his meditation experiences have given him glimpses into this.

BTW, by the same token, I'll bet Ra also observed that Carla spent many lifetimes perfecting love and Donald perfecting wisdom.  (Of course, I'm using the word "perfecting" here loosely.)
   

[Patrick]

 
Meditate upon the sublimity of existence at the restaurant ?

[Louisabell]

I don't want to talk about Jim specifically. But the archetypal power role is an interesting topic.

So I will simply speak on archetypes. In my estimation, the magical role of a masculine sixth-density power type, would be: offering from an abundance of vital force energy, a stabilizing and grounding influence on all those in proximity, ability to provide a "sense of proportion" (i.e. snapping people out of mental tunnels they have dug themselves in) and a biggie - magical protection... "No-one shall pass but through me" type of thing.

Definitely just as essential and critical in any working.

Can I also push back on this anti-intellectual label some wish to put on Carla? Her IQ was tested in early life as being through the roof, she was a prolific writer and amazing communicator. Yet she prioritized her love - maybe the wisest decision of all?!

[Jade]

Ra: I am Ra. This is indeed an appropriate technique. In this particular group there is an additional aid in that each entity manifests one of these qualities in a manner which approaches the archetype. Thusly visualization may be personalized and much love and support within the group generated.

Thanks for that contribution (your post), Jade.  I have a rather divergent guess about why Ra said Jim manifests power nearly to an archetypal extent. 

And, btw, you'd sure as hell never think this by just looking at him.  He does resemble Ghengis Khan even a little bit.

But Ra sees stuff we don't, and they prioritize what they see differently.  This is to say, I don't believe they were making a reference to his yellow ray capabilities, but to his metaphysical signature formed by many, many lifetimes of studying power, both for good and for ill, to the point where these are highly balanced and refined (and somewhat hidden) deep within his subtle being.  It never occurred to me to ask hm about it, but I imagine some of his meditation experiences have given him glimpses into this.

BTW, by the same token, I'll bet Ra also observed that Carla spent many lifetimes perfecting love and Donald perfecting wisdom.  (Of course, I'm using the word "perfecting" here loosely.)

I just think the quote I posted implies that meditating on power, then love, then wisdom - appropriate as confirmed by Ra, even though it was quite specific - maps again the chakra body which Ra says must be opened seriatim. Jim was also instructed by Ra to work his body daily towards physical exhaustion (another third-ray centric task) as a means of balancing this power/abundance of physical energy. Before he met Don and Carla he had his own land where he hand built a log cabin all on his own, another manifestation of third density physical power. Ra also comments on Jim's overabundance towards wisdom during the contact, this tending towards the negative use, as evidenced by the catalyst of the spider bite. They also mention that Jim has a problem with discipline in meditation (obviously he has gotten past this) that the other two did not suffer from.

So, while Jim in his ripe old age of being basically a reclusive monk for many years has achieved a lot of balance, I do not get the impression from Ra's comments during the contact that Jim was a balance of the higher aspects that Don and Carla embodied.

101.2 Questioner: Thank you. What has caused the swelling in Jim’s body, and what can be done to heal it?

Ra: I am Ra. For the answer to this query we must begin with the consideration of the serpent, signifying wisdom. This symbol has the value of the ease of viewing the two faces of the one who is wise. Positive wisdom adorns the brow indicating indigo-ray work. Negative wisdom, by which we intend to signify expressions which effectually separate the self from the other-self, may be symbolized by the poison of the fangs. To use that which a mind/body/spirit complex has gained of wisdom for the uses of separation is to invite the fatal bite of that wisdom’s darker side.

The entity has a mental/emotional tendency, which has been lessening in distortion for some of your space/time, towards negative wisdom. The entity being already aware of this causes us not to dwell upon this point but merely to specifically draw the boundaries of the metaphysical background for the energizing of a series of bites from one of your second-density species. In this case the bite was no more than that of one of the arachnids, sometimes called the wood spider. However, it is possible that were enough work done to test the origin of the pathology of the entity, it is within possibility/probability limits that the testing would show the bite of the cottonmouth rather than the bite of the common wood spider.

The energizing took its place within the lymphatic system of the entity’s yellow-ray, physical body. Therefore, the working continues. There is increasing strain upon the spleen, the supra-renal glands, the renal complex, and some possibility/probability of difficulty with the liver. Further, the lymphatic difficulties have begun to strain the entity’s bronchial system. This is some general information upon what is to be noted as a somewhat efficient working.

The removal of these distortions has several portions. Firstly, it is well to seek the good offices of the one known as Stuart so that harsh chemical means may be taken to reawaken the histaminic reflexes of the entity and to aid in the removal of edema.

Secondly, we suggest that which has already begun; that is, the request of the one known now to this group as Bob that this entity may focus its aid upon the metaphysical connections with the yellow-ray body.

Thirdly, the entity must take note of its physical vehicle’s need for potassium. The ingesting of the fruit of the banana palm is recommended.

Fourthly, the links between the swelling of contumely and the apparent present situation is helpful. As always the support of the harmonious group is an aid, as is meditation. It is to be noted that this entity requires some discipline in the meditation which the others of the group do not find necessary in the same manner. Therefore, the entity may continue with its forms of meditation knowing that each in the group supports it entirely although the instinct to share in the discipline is not always present. Each entity has its ways of viewing and learning from the illusion, and each processes catalyst using unique circuitry. Thus all need not be the same to be equal in will and faith.

[Louisabell]

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Ra: I am Ra. ... Fourthly, the links between the swelling of contumely and the apparent present situation is helpful. As always the support of the harmonious group is an aid, as is meditation. It is to be noted that this entity requires some discipline in the meditation which the others of the group do not find necessary in the same manner. Therefore, the entity may continue with its forms of meditation knowing that each in the group supports it entirely although the instinct to share in the discipline is not always present. Each entity has its ways of viewing and learning from the illusion, and each processes catalyst using unique circuitry. Thus all need not be the same to be equal in will and faith.

I interpreted Ra as saying at the end there that one with greater power must then have a greater responsibility towards practicing discipline in order to contain and focus that power.

The powerful archetype is less likely to fall into patterns of sorrow, despair or fear, but indeed more into patterns of anger (movements towards assertion and defence) which can appear unpalatable, intimidating and negative from the outside, but is indeed just an (unbalanced) manifestation of vital force energy.

[Sacred Fool]

I just think the quote I posted implies that meditating on power, then love, then wisdom - appropriate as confirmed by Ra, even though it was quite specific - maps again the chakra body which Ra says must be opened seriatim. Jim was also instructed by Ra to work his body daily towards physical exhaustion (another third-ray centric task) as a means of balancing this power/abundance of physical energy. Before he met Don and Carla he had his own land where he hand built a log cabin all on his own, another manifestation of third density physical power. Ra also comments on Jim's overabundance towards wisdom during the contact, this tending towards the negative use, as evidenced by the catalyst of the spider bite. They also mention that Jim has a problem with discipline in meditation (obviously he has gotten past this) that the other two did not suffer from.

1.  Yours is an interesting interpretation of the power, love wisdom thing, but the context of the injunction to meditate on these has to do with Ra's desire that those exploring power maintain a balance with love and wisdom so as to not become intoxicated by their own fumes, if you will.  It has nothing to do with the energy centers, as I see it, because it is all about the adept working with numero 6. 

75.32 Questioner: The three aspects of the magical personality are stated to be power, love, and wisdom. Is this correct and are these the only primary aspects of the magical personality?

Ra: I am Ra. The three aspects of the magical personality, power, love, and wisdom, are so called in order that attention be paid to each aspect in developing the basic tool of the adept; that is, its self. It is by no means a personality of three aspects. It is a being of unity, being of sixth density and equivalent to what you call your higher self and, at the same time, is a personality enormously rich in variety of experience and subtlety of emotion.

The three aspects are given that the neophyte not abuse the tools of its trade but rather approach those tools balanced in the center of love and wisdom and thus seeking power in order to serve.

2.  Although some people identify the third chakra with power, that's a very limited view.  There's physical power, such as you mentioned, and there are also mental and spiritual power.  I was speaking of spiritual power, not the others, and this not in any way obvious to the outer eye.  I was claiming--without any evidence--that Jim has likely done much work prior to this incarnation understanding and balancing positive and negative power, and that this kind of work drops one right down the middle between love and wisdom, and--creating a run on sentence here--this is the pathway to resolving all paradoxes which, obviously--if true--balances these other two.

Moreover, in your quote earlier Ra appears to associate Jim with "archetypical power," but what is that?  I don't believe there is an archetype of power, per se, but that they were referring to an exponent of spiritual power, the very thing I'm attempting to describe here.

80.8 Questioner: I am sorry for my lack of penetration of these mechanisms and I apologize for some rather stupid questions, but I think we have here a point that is somewhat central to what we are presently attempting to understand, so even though my next questions may be almost unacceptably stupid, I will attempt to try to understand what this power that our visitor seeks is and how he uses it. For it seems to me that this is central to the mind and the evolution of it in which we are involved.


As this entity that is our visitor increases his power through these works, what is the power that he increases? Can you describe it?

Ra: I am Ra. The power of which you speak is a spiritual power. The powers of the mind, as such, do not encompass such works as these. You may, with some fruitfulness, consider the possibilities of moonlight. You are aware that we have described the Matrix of the Spirit as a night. The moonlight, then, offers either a true picture seen in shadow or chimera and falsity. The power of falsity is deep as is the power to discern truth from shadow. The shadow of hidden things is an infinite depth in which is stored the power of the One Infinite Creator.

The adept, then, is working with the power of hidden things illuminated by that which can be false or true. To embrace falsity, to know it, to seek it, and to use it gives a power that is most great. This is the nature of the power of your visitor and may shed some light upon the power of one who seeks in order to serve others as well, for the missteps in the night are oh! so easy.

   
3.  Jim's overbalance towards wisdom can be seen as a personality overlay on top of what I mentioned.

4.  Ra opined that Jim was bitten by a pit viper, specifically a cottonmouth, not by a spider.  (Transient information, but notable.)
  

[Sacred Fool]

Meditate upon the sublimity of existence at the restaurant ?

I think you may have lost the thread of the conversation, dude.

ha ha ha ha
  

The restaurants were pretty good last time, but not quite sublime.
    

[Aion]

Is the Creator not everywhere?

Jim was very nice and humble but fairly short with words as I recall, and that is perfectly well and good.

Regarding the power aspect of the trio, I think this is an interesting concept in the sense of "wielding" love and wisdom. For is power not found in their unity?

On a more mechanical note, as Jade said, regarding the energy transfers, there is a common configuration for channeling. You have the vessel/conduit/channel, you have the battery which provides power, and you have the operator whom directs the process. These three stacked are body, mind and spirit. You have the frame and form, the engine and the pilot of a spaceship.

Jim took on the role of the battery in this configuration, and so that means not only being able to power up, charge and sustain the vessel, but also to work in tandem with the operator, often as a stabilizer of sorts. Maybe the best electrical analogy would be a 'transformer'.

Another way to think of this is sort of like the Guardians.

[Aion]

That being said, isn't it kind of hilarious how we convince ourselves there is "more" of the Creator somewhere rather than elsewhere? All looks like Creator to me.

[Sacred Fool]

Is the Creator not everywhere?

Uh, yeah, and that conveys what particular point of information?  Are you trying to sweep something away with that or say that "all is one."  I can't see beyond the triteness of it, please help.

Jim took on the role of the battery in this configuration, and so that means not only being able to power up, charge and sustain the vessel, but also to work in tandem with the operator, often as a stabilizer of sorts. Maybe the best electrical analogy would be a 'transformer'

With all due respect, old boy, these are prosaic details far removed from the poetry of power being the fulcrum watching love and wisdom go up and down.  Using that image. one can say that power is found in their "mutual love and harmony," as Ra put it, but it's the specific role which the study of power plays in the balancing of the other two to move past the land of polarity which I find a more compelling element of the story.  Again, not to be untoward, but I expected you would have more interesting thoughts on the matter, you being into that occultist-power stuff with it's ritual magic and all that jazz.

I'll put this another way, to make it easier for all of us.  What do you intuit is the relationship between power (whatever that is, exactly) and spiritual gravity?  This is what I'm getting at...or trying to get at.
   
   

[Jade]

I just think the quote I posted implies that meditating on power, then love, then wisdom - appropriate as confirmed by Ra, even though it was quite specific - maps again the chakra body which Ra says must be opened seriatim. Jim was also instructed by Ra to work his body daily towards physical exhaustion (another third-ray centric task) as a means of balancing this power/abundance of physical energy. Before he met Don and Carla he had his own land where he hand built a log cabin all on his own, another manifestation of third density physical power. Ra also comments on Jim's overabundance towards wisdom during the contact, this tending towards the negative use, as evidenced by the catalyst of the spider bite. They also mention that Jim has a problem with discipline in meditation (obviously he has gotten past this) that the other two did not suffer from.

1.  Yours is an interesting interpretation of the power, love wisdom thing, but the context of the injunction to meditate on these has to do with Ra's desire that those exploring power maintain a balance with love and wisdom so as to not become intoxicated by their own fumes, if you will.  It has nothing to do with the energy centers, as I see it, because it is all about the adept working with numero 6. 

75.32 Questioner: The three aspects of the magical personality are stated to be power, love, and wisdom. Is this correct and are these the only primary aspects of the magical personality?

Ra: I am Ra. The three aspects of the magical personality, power, love, and wisdom, are so called in order that attention be paid to each aspect in developing the basic tool of the adept; that is, its self. It is by no means a personality of three aspects. It is a being of unity, being of sixth density and equivalent to what you call your higher self and, at the same time, is a personality enormously rich in variety of experience and subtlety of emotion.

The three aspects are given that the neophyte not abuse the tools of its trade but rather approach those tools balanced in the center of love and wisdom and thus seeking power in order to serve.

2.  Although some people identify the third chakra with power, that's a very limited view.  There's physical power, such as you mentioned, and there are also mental and spiritual power.  I was speaking of spiritual power, not the others, and this not in any way obvious to the outer eye.  I was claiming--without any evidence--that Jim has likely done much work prior to this incarnation understanding and balancing positive and negative power, and that this kind of work drops one right down the middle between love and wisdom, and--creating a run on sentence here--this is the pathway to resolving all paradoxes which, obviously--if true--balances these other two.

Moreover, in your quote earlier Ra appears to associate Jim with "archetypical power," but what is that?  I don't believe there is an archetype of power, per se, but that they were referring to an exponent of spiritual power, the very thing I'm attempting to describe here.

80.8 Questioner: I am sorry for my lack of penetration of these mechanisms and I apologize for some rather stupid questions, but I think we have here a point that is somewhat central to what we are presently attempting to understand, so even though my next questions may be almost unacceptably stupid, I will attempt to try to understand what this power that our visitor seeks is and how he uses it. For it seems to me that this is central to the mind and the evolution of it in which we are involved.


As this entity that is our visitor increases his power through these works, what is the power that he increases? Can you describe it?

Ra: I am Ra. The power of which you speak is a spiritual power. The powers of the mind, as such, do not encompass such works as these. You may, with some fruitfulness, consider the possibilities of moonlight. You are aware that we have described the Matrix of the Spirit as a night. The moonlight, then, offers either a true picture seen in shadow or chimera and falsity. The power of falsity is deep as is the power to discern truth from shadow. The shadow of hidden things is an infinite depth in which is stored the power of the One Infinite Creator.

The adept, then, is working with the power of hidden things illuminated by that which can be false or true. To embrace falsity, to know it, to seek it, and to use it gives a power that is most great. This is the nature of the power of your visitor and may shed some light upon the power of one who seeks in order to serve others as well, for the missteps in the night are oh! so easy.

   
3.  Jim's overbalance towards wisdom can be seen as a personality overlay on top of what I mentioned.

4.  Ra opined that Jim was bitten by a pit viper, specifically a cottonmouth, not by a spider.  (Transient information, but notable.)
  

Seems like we disagree on this one, peregrine. Ra mentions Jim's overabundance (imbalance) towards wisdom in multiple places. It might be an oversimplification to associate "power" with the yellow ray, but I do believe this is what Jim manifested. Jim is a very simple guy who basically always made choices that were rooted in what he sincerely wanted to do. The will is associated with the yellow ray, as there is no free will without the third density veiled incarnation. Carla and Don both had many, many idiosyncrasies rooted in their experiences as youth and therefore blockages achieving and understanding what they truly desired. Jim had a very simple, normal upbringing, without much if any trauma at all, which allowed him to actualize himself in ways that were fulfilling. Ra says that the most important function of the veiling was the development of the will, or "pure desire", and I think there is a power contained within that energy.

[85.19] Perhaps the most important and significant function that occurred due to the veiling of the mind from itself is not in itself a function of mind but rather is a product of the potential created by this veiling. This is the faculty of will or pure desire.

59.3 Questioner: I have a question from Jim that states: “I think I have penetrated the mystery of my lifelong anger at making mistakes. I think I have always been aware subconsciously of my abilities to master new learnings, but my desire to successfully complete my mission on Earth has been energized by the Orion group into irrational and destructive anger when I fail. Could you comment on this observation?”

Ra: I am Ra. We would suggest that as this entity is aware of its position as a Wanderer, it may also consider what pre-incarnative decisions it undertook to make regarding the personal or self-oriented portion of the choosing to be here at this particular time/space. This entity is aware, as stated, that it has great potential, but potential for what? This is the pre-incarnative question. The work of sixth density is to unify wisdom and compassion. This entity abounds in wisdom. The compassion it is desirous of balancing has, as its antithesis, lack of compassion. In the more conscious being this expresses or manifests itself as lack of compassion for self. We feel this is the sum of suggested concepts for thought which we may offer at this time without infringement.

Re: #4 Ra actually says that testing might conclude it was a cottonmouth, but says that it was an arachnid bite. I'm guessing Jim would have noticed if he had been bitten by a venomous snake and not had to ask Ra what was causing problems.

In this case the bite was no more than that of one of the arachnids, sometimes called the wood spider. However, it is possible that were enough work done to test the origin of the pathology of the entity, it is within possibility/probability limits that the testing would show the bite of the cottonmouth rather than the bite of the common wood spider.

From Tilting at Windmills:

JIM So what had happened there was that one night, before I had healed the rift between us, in my sleep I was bitten by a common wood spider on my arm, and within a week or so I’d gained 30 pounds of water weight, my kidneys had begun to malfunction . . .
Carla He’d gotten really round. And it was fleshy everywhere. You’d poke him and it would take a while to recover the—

JIM Everything I had except, maybe, my tongue. [laughs]

Carla Water! Water, water everywhere.

JIM And so, actually I did get bitten, and Ra suggested that the bite was intensified by our friend of negative polarity to approximately equal the bite of a cottonmouth snake, a poisonous snake.

GARY And that bite was linked to you . . .

JIM To me due to allowing the difficulty, the poor communication, and the disharmony to exist between me and Don. So the little spider was just the avenue through which the negative entity could intensify the lack of harmony between Don and me at that time

[Diana]

I wonder how efficacious it is to analyze not only two people who are no longer here, and one who is. It is like analyzing a poem (something that never made any sense to me). It must be considered that people are complex, and that we can't know anyone's whole story. For my part, it feels invasive.

[Sacred Fool]

      

Okay, let's disagree then.  Not a problem.
   

[Sacred Fool]

I wonder how efficacious it is to analyze not only two people who are no longer here, and one who is. It is like analyzing a poem (something that never made any sense to me). It must be considered that people are complex, and that we can't know anyone's whole story. For my part, it feels invasive.

Hmmm, well looking into the craftsmanship of a poem can enhance the experience of it, for some.  In this case, I think it's more about trying to make efficient use of catalyst by asking what can be learned from all this.

But, to your point, Diana, that was very much the sentiment behind my second paragraph of the OP.  These are complex individuals and nothing I say can do them any justice in that respect.  I'm just trying to examine the spiritual principles brought up here.  You're okay with that, aren't you?

   

[Diana]

But, to your point, Diana, that was very much the sentiment behind my second paragraph of the OP.  These are complex individuals and nothing I say can do them any justice in that respect.  I'm just trying to examine the spiritual principles brought up here.  You're okay with that, aren't you?

I am okay with it. I didn't mean to sound authoritarian about it. I was just expressing my take on it. I am not proposing to censor anyone's explorations on any topic. I suppose I have a bit of personal reaction there, as I have been in the public eye to a small degree and it is something of a catalyst for me.

I find that when I analyze a poem, it removes the magic, the deeper, wordless, intuitive feelings that, because the words were arranged in a certain way, are evoked in the individual individually. So much for my aversion to analyzing poetry.

[Aion]

Is the Creator not everywhere?

Uh, yeah, and that conveys what particular point of information?  Are you trying to sweep something away with that or say that "all is one."  I can't see beyond the triteness of it, please help.

Jim took on the role of the battery in this configuration, and so that means not only being able to power up, charge and sustain the vessel, but also to work in tandem with the operator, often as a stabilizer of sorts. Maybe the best electrical analogy would be a 'transformer'

With all due respect, old boy, these are prosaic details far removed from the poetry of power being the fulcrum watching love and wisdom go up and down.  Using that image. one can say that power is found in their "mutual love and harmony," as Ra put it, but it's the specific role which the study of power plays in the balancing of the other two to move past the land of polarity which I find a more compelling element of the story.  Again, not to be untoward, but I expected you would have more interesting thoughts on the matter, you being into that occultist-power stuff with it's ritual magic and all that jazz.

I'll put this another way, to make it easier for all of us.  What do you intuit is the relationship between power (whatever that is, exactly) and spiritual gravity?  This is what I'm getting at...or trying to get at.
   
   

Your craving for novelty bears little on what I choose to express. If you are 'bored' of seeing the Creator in all things, maybe that is something to take up with yourself?
I was replying to the point of where each finds the Creator. Some find it in peaceful meditation, some find it in the social activity of a restaurant, neither is wrong, ya?

You seem to have expectations of people long before they have replied, I'm not really interested in embodying whatever ideal you have placed upon me, and your apparent appeal to "poetic language" seem more to do with your comforts than any actual desire to engage in two-way communication. If you do not like my thoughts as I present them, that is on you.

However, I am happy to expand when requested.

With that being said, my analogy does not change. I see the function of "power" as being one of regulation. Consider the Strength card of the Tarot which often depicts a woman closing the mouth of a lion with her hands.

So to put that in context of what you are saying, I see power as its own distinct aspect and not just a "midway" between love and wisdom, but rather more of a synthesis.
The role of a transformer in an electrical circuit is to step up or down the charge so that it can be received effectively by the others. I think this is more reflective actually of what Jade was saying, as it's through the yellow center that power is moved between individuals, even when the heart is involved. The heart is more like a lubricant, it just makes the transfer easier and smoother. However, the yellow ray is also important.

I think there is a bit of a broken view with the idea of "lower centers" and "upper centers", because it seems to create a dichotomy of "higher" and "lower" but all the rays are all equal importance.

Thus, in a configuration where there are three. One leaning towards wisdom, one leaning towards love and one leaning towards their synthesis (of course important to note that all three individuals possessed all three aspects, they simply each had a more dominant trait), you have a very effective configuration.
Perhaps this is "unpoetic" to you, but to me it is like sacred geometry, it's a beautiful arrangement that does not happen often.

To bring it to your final question, what then is the "spiritual gravity"? Well, I believe that in order to move towards the One, the Creator, we need to realize ourselves as that and the most direct way we are able to do that is by getting in touch with its aspects within ourselves. I think this is the essential concept presented in the process of the densities and "moving towards unity". It is a separation in conscious awareness. The "gravity" is what I call the Shekinah, or the presence of the divine. Individuals who have touched more intelligent energy radiate this presence of the divine, and the "gravity" analogy I believe is the tendency for all things to be drawn in to the Creator.

On a "soul level", this I think is just an outer effect of that self-realization, the inner reality is the actuality and the degree to which an individuated co-Creator has realized itself as the Creator, which is, of course, infinite.

However, I'm not sure that is actually congruent with the aspect of power. More of an outgrowth of the engagement of all three aspects.

The study of power is one of regulation. It is "how much love and how much wisdom is needed for each moment?"
This makes it fundamentally about the WILL. For it is the will that chooses.
Thus, a person who has made contact and gotten to know both these resources is then tasked with learning about the dynamic of their balances and I think this is the work of Sixth Density.
Reason being is that I think that these are the ultimate lessons the Higher Self turns back to offer to the self before turning on to Foreverness.

That being said, someone who is studying power has not necessarily mastered it and will likely still tend to lean one way or the other.

I refrain from specifically speaking about Jim or analyzing the the others for the same reason as Diana suggested, I find that to be disrespectful.

Could we say he is more "balanced"? I think those kinds of questions are both impossible and fruitless to answer. Balance looks difference for each individual, even Ra says that, and not to focus on the vibrancy of separate aspects or centers but at the overall colour balance. Everyone is a different work of art.

Sorry if that is the boring answer you didn't hope for.

[Patrick]

 
Can't we just agree that Jim is a God !? 

[Louisabell]

So to put that in context of what you are saying, I see power as its own distinct aspect and not just a "midway" between love and wisdom, but rather more of a synthesis.

I do agree with this statement.

I don't see power as that which holds the balance between love and wisdom, for nothing needs to "actively" hold balance, for when balance is found within, it resolves itself. It is distortion which imbalances in the first place. When distortion lessens and more parts of the self settle into a whole, more of the 360 degree Self can begin to emerge, the will directed and focused, the passage of fire widens, and raw power can be employed where desired.

It is indeed our natural state to be empowered entites.

[Patrick]

 
When balance is achieved then power can flow through the instrument that we are ?

[Louisabell]

It must be considered that people are complex, and that we can't know anyone's whole story.

Allow me to echo this Diana, as it is a very good point.

People are mind-blowingly complex. And indeed, if we are to work on the assumption that there are many incarnations - then there is very little that we know of our own story.

We see others acting in regular patterns throughout the day, but we cannot fully experience their inner life. Only project our inner life onto them as best we can.

As spoken by the very wise Charlie Sheen:
"You borrow my brain for 5 seconds, and just be like 'Dude, can't handle it, unplug this bastard', because it fires in a way that is, I don't know, maybe not from this particular terrestrial realm."

[Louisabell]

 
When balance is achieved then power can flow through the instrument that we are ?

Yes, I would say that is a very succinct way of putting it.

[Sacred Fool]

Your craving for novelty bears little on what I choose to express. If you are 'bored' of seeing the Creator in all things, maybe that is something to take up with yourself?
I was replying to the point of where each finds the Creator. Some find it in peaceful meditation, some find it in the social activity of a restaurant, neither is wrong, ya?

I did not perceive the context of your comment about the Creator being everywhere, hence my query.  And, ja, ja, restaurant or home or otherwise is good.


You seem to have expectations of people long before they have replied, I'm not really interested in embodying whatever ideal you have placed upon me, and your apparent appeal to "poetic language" seem more to do with your comforts than any actual desire to engage in two-way communication. If you do not like my thoughts as I present them, that is on you.

I was hoping for a deeper level of engagement, such as you offer below.

However, I am happy to expand when requested.

Thank you.

With that being said, my analogy does not change. I see the function of "power" as being one of regulation. Consider the Strength card of the Tarot which often depicts a woman closing the mouth of a lion with her hands.

So to put that in context of what you are saying, I see power as its own distinct aspect and not just a "midway" between love and wisdom, but rather more of a synthesis.

The role of a transformer in an electrical circuit is to step up or down the charge so that it can be received effectively by the others. I think this is more reflective actually of what Jade was saying, as it's through the yellow center that power is moved between individuals, even when the heart is involved. The heart is more like a lubricant, it just makes the transfer easier and smoother. However, the yellow ray is also important.

I think there is a bit of a broken view with the idea of "lower centers" and "upper centers", because it seems to create a dichotomy of "higher" and "lower" but all the rays are all equal importance.

Thus, in a configuration where there are three. One leaning towards wisdom, one leaning towards love and one leaning towards their synthesis (of course important to note that all three individuals possessed all three aspects, they simply each had a more dominant trait), you have a very effective configuration.

Perhaps this is "unpoetic" to you, but to me it is like sacred geometry, it's a beautiful arrangement that does not happen often.

I can see that I've inadvertently caused a train wreck here, both with you and with Jade, because I neglected to make clear that I was trying to move my comments out from the context of the practical working dynamic of the original wee group of three in 3D spacesuits and into the context of how a 6D entity visiting 3D can learn from these things and do good work here.  I regret the confusion I caused.

To bring it to your final question, what then is the "spiritual gravity"? Well, I believe that in order to move towards the One, the Creator, we need to realize ourselves as that and the most direct way we are able to do that is by getting in touch with its aspects within ourselves. I think this is the essential concept presented in the process of the densities and "moving towards unity". It is a separation in conscious awareness. The "gravity" is what I call the Shekinah, or the presence of the divine. Individuals who have touched more intelligent energy radiate this presence of the divine, and the "gravity" analogy I believe is the tendency for all things to be drawn in to the Creator.

On a "soul level", this I think is just an outer effect of that self-realization, the inner reality is the actuality and the degree to which an individuated co-Creator has realized itself as the Creator, which is, of course, infinite.

Okay, one can describe spiritual gravity as an increased presence of the Divine, whatever that might mean, exactly.  Would you describe Ra, Q'uo. etc. that way, that they exude more presence of the Divine?  That's not how I would describe the vibe I get.  For what it may be worth, I sense it more as a recombination of disparate elements (ordered levels of consciousness) into a form which is more transparent to Divinity than a more random assemblage of the elements would otherwise be.  It is more transparent almost in the way a person just on the verge of death releases their hold on this world and there is a kind of gravity which takes them away across the threshold.  This is what I feel, in sum, a recombined, transparent gravitic pull towards what feels like Divinity.

However, I'm not sure that is actually congruent with the aspect of power. More of an outgrowth of the engagement of all three aspects.

The study of power is one of regulation. It is "how much love and how much wisdom is needed for each moment?"

This makes it fundamentally about the WILL. For it is the will that chooses.
Thus, a person who has made contact and gotten to know both these resources is then tasked with learning about the dynamic of their balances and I think this is the work of Sixth Density.

Reason being is that I think that these are the ultimate lessons the Higher Self turns back to offer to the self before turning on to Foreverness.

That being said, someone who is studying power has not necessarily mastered it and will likely still tend to lean one way or the other.

So, how is the study of power relevant here?  My wild idea is that, for a 6D entity, power, "the ability to do work," kick starts the gravitic effect, it draws Light and Love together so that they can synthesize under pressure.  Power, or force, as we know it in 3D manifestation can be electromagnetic, nuclear or gravitic.  Metaphysically speaking, I would aver--based on zero evidence--that these eventually conduce to one force which is uni-directional and, as you say, Aion, moving towards synthesis with the one Creatrix.  Further, it is my wholly unsubstantiated claim that is was Jim McCarty study in this area prior to this lifetime (having nothing whatsoever to do with upbringing or personality defects) which gave the group sufficient power to effectively and cleanly contact Ra.

I refrain from specifically speaking about Jim or analyzing the the others for the same reason as Diana suggested, I find that to be disrespectful.

Could we say he is more "balanced"? I think those kinds of questions are both impossible and fruitless to answer. Balance looks difference for each individual, even Ra says that, and not to focus on the vibrancy of separate aspects or centers but at the overall colour balance. Everyone is a different work of art.

As stated at the outset, I am viewing him symbolically, not literally, in part for the reasons you state.

Sorry if that is the boring answer you didn't hope for.

No worries!!!!

[Diana]

As spoken by the very wise Charlie Sheen:
"You borrow my brain for 5 seconds, and just be like 'Dude, can't handle it, unplug this bastard', because it fires in a way that is, I don't know, maybe not from this particular terrestrial realm."    

That's hilarious!

[sillypumpkins]

peregrine I just have to say that the title of this thread has me laughing..... okay... carry on

[J.W.]

peregrine,

You got my attention. I am going to cut to the chase and put your fancy and "poetic" literature aside for a minute.

What Aion see in your "attitude" and the responses you make cannot be dismissed.

I'll be blunt here, you seem to like to start S**t with people, but in a "wish washy" "twisty" "word play" with the way you "rant."

Be honest, this is a "rant" about Jim from your "perspective" and you make up this overly "complex" analysis to deflect any "comments" coming your way.

Diana was no where near the level of "authoritarian" as you were on my post a few weeks back, when you were telling me that you're gonna get the admin to move my post because it's not "Ra" related.

There's a lot of "contradictions" in the way you articulate yourself behind all the fancy "word dance" that you do.

But the stench of "stirring" things up is reeking behind your "passive aggressive" attitude.

You even admitted at one point on my post, that you want to "challenge" me.

You're funny, and well articulated, but I see you buddy. Much light for you.

And the response I have for your post?

Jim, is Jim, what he does and the "rant" you have about him has nothing to do with you.

In the next homecoming, let's analyze peregrine and peregrine's actions. ya?

[Sacred Fool]

You even admitted at one point on my post, that you want to "challenge" me.

In the next homecoming, let's analyze peregrine and peregrine's actions. ya?

I see you're bitter about having been challenged.  Well, I'm sorry I made things difficult for you, other-self, but challenging is way to see to what an entity is loyal to, you know?  To see what he's really made of.  Personally, I think it was fair in the context of all the moderators here having gone underground, and my criticisms of you were were not unfounded.

Should we ever meet in person, J.W, I'd be very happy to share food, cigars and whiskey with you and discuss whatever you like.
   

[Aion]

Your craving for novelty bears little on what I choose to express. If you are 'bored' of seeing the Creator in all things, maybe that is something to take up with yourself?
I was replying to the point of where each finds the Creator. Some find it in peaceful meditation, some find it in the social activity of a restaurant, neither is wrong, ya?

I did not perceive the context of your comment about the Creator being everywhere, hence my query.  And, ja, ja, restaurant or home or otherwise is good.


You seem to have expectations of people long before they have replied, I'm not really interested in embodying whatever ideal you have placed upon me, and your apparent appeal to "poetic language" seem more to do with your comforts than any actual desire to engage in two-way communication. If you do not like my thoughts as I present them, that is on you.

I was hoping for a deeper level of engagement, such as you offer below.

However, I am happy to expand when requested.

Thank you.

With that being said, my analogy does not change. I see the function of "power" as being one of regulation. Consider the Strength card of the Tarot which often depicts a woman closing the mouth of a lion with her hands.

So to put that in context of what you are saying, I see power as its own distinct aspect and not just a "midway" between love and wisdom, but rather more of a synthesis.

The role of a transformer in an electrical circuit is to step up or down the charge so that it can be received effectively by the others. I think this is more reflective actually of what Jade was saying, as it's through the yellow center that power is moved between individuals, even when the heart is involved. The heart is more like a lubricant, it just makes the transfer easier and smoother. However, the yellow ray is also important.

I think there is a bit of a broken view with the idea of "lower centers" and "upper centers", because it seems to create a dichotomy of "higher" and "lower" but all the rays are all equal importance.

Thus, in a configuration where there are three. One leaning towards wisdom, one leaning towards love and one leaning towards their synthesis (of course important to note that all three individuals possessed all three aspects, they simply each had a more dominant trait), you have a very effective configuration.

Perhaps this is "unpoetic" to you, but to me it is like sacred geometry, it's a beautiful arrangement that does not happen often.

I can see that I've inadvertently caused a train wreck here, both with you and with Jade, because I neglected to make clear that I was trying to move my comments out from the context of the practical working dynamic of the original wee group of three in 3D spacesuits and into the context of how a 6D entity visiting 3D can learn from these things and do good work here.  I regret the confusion I caused.

To bring it to your final question, what then is the "spiritual gravity"? Well, I believe that in order to move towards the One, the Creator, we need to realize ourselves as that and the most direct way we are able to do that is by getting in touch with its aspects within ourselves. I think this is the essential concept presented in the process of the densities and "moving towards unity". It is a separation in conscious awareness. The "gravity" is what I call the Shekinah, or the presence of the divine. Individuals who have touched more intelligent energy radiate this presence of the divine, and the "gravity" analogy I believe is the tendency for all things to be drawn in to the Creator.

On a "soul level", this I think is just an outer effect of that self-realization, the inner reality is the actuality and the degree to which an individuated co-Creator has realized itself as the Creator, which is, of course, infinite.

Okay, one can describe spiritual gravity as an increased presence of the Divine, whatever that might mean, exactly.  Would you describe Ra, Q'uo. etc. that way, that they exude more presence of the Divine?  That's not how I would describe the vibe I get.  For what it may be worth, I sense it more as a recombination of disparate elements (ordered levels of consciousness) into a form which is more transparent to Divinity than a more random assemblage of the elements would otherwise be.  It is more transparent almost in the way a person just on the verge of death releases their hold on this world and there is a kind of gravity which takes them away across the threshold.  This is what I feel, in sum, a recombined, transparent gravitic pull towards what feels like Divinity.

However, I'm not sure that is actually congruent with the aspect of power. More of an outgrowth of the engagement of all three aspects.

The study of power is one of regulation. It is "how much love and how much wisdom is needed for each moment?"

This makes it fundamentally about the WILL. For it is the will that chooses.
Thus, a person who has made contact and gotten to know both these resources is then tasked with learning about the dynamic of their balances and I think this is the work of Sixth Density.

Reason being is that I think that these are the ultimate lessons the Higher Self turns back to offer to the self before turning on to Foreverness.

That being said, someone who is studying power has not necessarily mastered it and will likely still tend to lean one way or the other.

So, how is the study of power relevant here?  My wild idea is that, for a 6D entity, power, "the ability to do work," kick starts the gravitic effect, it draws Light and Love together so that they can synthesize under pressure.  Power, or force, as we know it in 3D manifestation can be electromagnetic, nuclear or gravitic.  Metaphysically speaking, I would aver--based on zero evidence--that these eventually conduce to one force which is uni-directional and, as you say, Aion, moving towards synthesis with the one Creatrix.  Further, it is my wholly unsubstantiated claim that is was Jim McCarty study in this area prior to this lifetime (having nothing whatsoever to do with upbringing or personality defects) which gave the group sufficient power to effectively and cleanly contact Ra.

I refrain from specifically speaking about Jim or analyzing the the others for the same reason as Diana suggested, I find that to be disrespectful.

Could we say he is more "balanced"? I think those kinds of questions are both impossible and fruitless to answer. Balance looks difference for each individual, even Ra says that, and not to focus on the vibrancy of separate aspects or centers but at the overall colour balance. Everyone is a different work of art.

As stated at the outset, I am viewing him symbolically, not literally, in part for the reasons you state.

Sorry if that is the boring answer you didn't hope for.

No worries!!!!

Well, spiritual gravity doesn't "start" in sixth, so I'm not quite sure where you're going with that.

29.18 Questioner: I sometimes have difficulty in getting, you might say, a foothold into what I am looking for in trying to seek out the metaphysical principles, you might say, behind our physical illusion.
Could you give me an example of the amount of gravity in the third density conditions at the surface of the planet Venus? Would it be greater or less than Earth?

Ra: I am Ra. The gravity, shall we say, the attractive force which we also describe as the pressing outward force towards the Creator is greater spiritually upon the entity you call Venus due to the greater degree of success, shall we say, at seeking the Creator.

This point only becomes important when you consider that when all of creation in its infinity has reached a spiritual gravitational mass of sufficient nature, the entire creation infinitely coalesces; the light seeking and finding its source and thusly ending the creation and beginning a new creation much as you consider the black hole, as you call it, with its conditions of infinitely great mass at the zero point from which no light may be seen as it has been absorbed.

29.19 Questioner: Then the black hole would be a point… am I correct in saying it would be a point at which the environmental material had succeeded in uniting with unity or the Creator? Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. The black hole which manifests third density is the physical complex manifestation of this spiritual or metaphysical state. This is correct.

29.20 Questioner: Thank you. Then when our planet Earth here gets fully into fourth density, will there be a greater gravity?

Ra: I am Ra. There will be a greater spiritual gravity thus causing a denser illusion.

We know that the "work" of 6D is that of unity, the unification of all opposites.

So here's an interesting thing to consider. Most of the personality is "lost" at death, so how much are we actually taking back to our Higher Selves?

30.4 Questioner: Is there any loss to the mind or spirit after this transition which we call death or any impairment of either because of the loss of this chemical body that we now have?

Ra: I am Ra. In your terms there is a great loss of mind complex due to the fact that much of the activity of a mental nature of which you are aware during the experience of this space/time continuum is as much of a surface illusion as is the chemical body complex.

In other terms nothing whatever of importance is lost; the character or, shall we say, pure distillation of emotions and biases or distortions and wisdoms, if you will, becoming obvious for the first time, shall we say; these pure emotions and wisdoms and bias/distortions being, for the most part, either ignored or underestimated during physical life experience.

In terms of the spiritual, this channel is then much opened due to the lack of necessity for the forgetting characteristic of third density.

So, I think it's a preeeetty broad question to ask, what good can a 6D entity get from 3D? Wouldn't that depend entirely on the particular entity? I'm not sure any two are working on the exact same balance.

However, I would venture to suggest that the nature of the character of a personality may not necessarily be directly reflective of the lessons being learned by the totality. I think there is a lot more nuance to it than that.

64.6 Questioner: Could you describe or tell me of rituals or technique used by Ra in seeking in the direction of service?

Ra: I am Ra. To speak of that which sixth-density social memory complexes labor within in order to advance is at best misprision of plain communication for much is lost in transmission of concept from density to density, and the discussion of sixth density is inevitably distorted greatly.

However, we shall attempt to speak to your query for it is an helpful one in that it allows us to express once again the total unity of creation. We seek the Creator upon a level of shared experience to which you are not privy and rather than surrounding ourselves in light we have become light. Our understanding is that there is no other material except light. Our rituals, as you may call them, are an infinitely subtle continuation of the balancing processes which you are now beginning to experience.

We seek now without polarity. Thus we do not invoke any power from without, for our search has become internalized as we become light/love and love/light. These are the balances we seek, the balances between compassion and wisdom which more and more allow our understanding of experience to be informed that we may come closer to the unity with the One Creator which we so joyfully seek.

Your rituals at your level of progress contain the concept of polarization and this is most central at your particular space/time.

We may answer further if you have specific queries.

27.13 Questioner: Is Love— is there a manifestation of love that we could call vibration?

Ra: I am Ra. Again we reach semantic difficulties. The vibration or density of love or understanding is not a term used in the same sense as the second distortion, Love; the distortion Love being the great activator and primal co-Creator of various creations using intelligent infinity; the vibration love being that density in which those who have learned to do an activity called “loving” without significant distortion, then seek the ways of light or wisdom. Thus in vibratory sense love comes into light in the sense of the activity of unity in its free will. Love uses light and has the power to direct light in its distortions. Thus vibratory complexes recapitulate in reverse the creation in its unity, thus showing the rhythm or flow of the great heartbeat, if you will use this analogy.

So, again, it appears to me that the benefit for a 6D entity in visiting 3D is to learn the regulation and balance between compassion and wisdom.

What is very worth noting though is that most of Ra's 'sign offs' include "the power and the peace of the One Creator".
This is actually the most frequent use of the word power in the material.

What is the power of the One Infinite Creator?

On the flipside, Ra frequency mentions 'distortions towards power' so there is clearly a mix of meanings going on here.

The word 'power' is defined in a few ways in English.

noun
1.
the ability to do something or act in a particular way, especially as a faculty or quality.
"the power of speech"
2.
the capacity or ability to direct or influence the behavior of others or the course of events.
"she had me under her power"
verb
1.
supply (a device) with mechanical or electrical energy.
"the car is powered by a fuel-injected 3.0-liter engine"
2.
move or travel with great speed or force.
"they powered past the dock toward the mouth of the creek"

I wonder which ones they are using and when?

We see a little bit of the definition of power here.

15.22 Questioner: You also said that you offered the Law of One, which is the balancing of love/light and light/love. Is there any difference between love/light and light/love?

Ra: I am Ra. This will be the final question of this time/space. There is the same difference between love/light and light/love as there is between teach/learning and learn/teaching. Love/light is the enabler, the power, the energy giver. Light/love is the manifestation which occurs when light has been impressed with love.

All of these suggest to me entities learning how to use love with wisdom in order to direct their own distortions of light towards greater realization of the self as Creator.

15.14 Questioner: Yesterday you stated “the harvest is now. There is not at this time any reason to include efforts upon these distortions toward longevity, but rather to encourage distortions towards the heart of self. For this which resides clearly in the violet-ray energy field will determine the harvest of each mind/body/spirit complex.” Could you tell us how to seek or the best way to seek the heart of self?

Ra: I am Ra. We have given you this information in several wordings. However, we can only say the material for your understanding is the self: the mind/body/spirit complex. You have been given information upon healing, as you call this distortion. This information may be seen in a more general context as ways to understand the self. The understanding, experiencing, accepting, and merging of self with self and with other-self, and finally with the Creator, is the path to the heart of self. In each infinitesimal part of your self resides the One in all of Its power. Therefore, we can only encourage these lines of contemplation, always stating the prerequisite of meditation, contemplation, or prayer as a means of subjectively/objectively using or combining various understandings to enhance the seeking process. Without such a method of reversing the analytical process, one could not integrate into unity the many understandings gained in such seeking.

So, I probably seem like I'm just repeating myself a bunch, but frankly, so does Ra.

When you're talking about that "movement towards the Creator" this is described by Ra as the "upwards spiraling light" and it emerges in third-density.

9.14 Questioner: Then there were second-density entities here prior to approximately 75,000 years ago. What type of entities were these?

Ra: The second density is the density of the higher plant life and animal life which exists without the upward drive towards the infinite. These second-density beings are of an octave of consciousness just as you find various orientations of consciousness among the conscious entities of your vibration.

30.5 Questioner: I would like to know how the mind/body/spirit complexes originate. How, going back as far as necessary, does the— Do they originate by spirit forming mind and mind forming body? Can you tell me this?

Ra: I am Ra. We ask you to consider that you are attempting to trace evolution. This evolution is as we have previously described, the consciousness being first, in first density, without movement, a random thing. Whether you may call this mind or body complex is a semantic problem. We call it mind/body complex recognizing always that in the simplest iota of this complex exists in its entirety the One Infinite Creator; this mind/body complex then in second density discovering the growing and turning towards the light, thus awakening what you may call the spirit complex, that which intensifies the upward spiraling towards the love and light of the Infinite Creator.

The addition of this spirit complex, though apparent rather than real, it having existed potentially from the beginning of space/time, perfects itself by graduation into third density. When the mind/body/spirit complex becomes aware of the possibility of service to self or other-self, then the mind/body/spirit complex is activated.

19.3 Questioner: When this transition from second to third density takes place, how does the entity, whether it be animal, tree, or mineral, become enspirited?

Ra: I am Ra. Entities do not become enspirited. They become aware of the intelligent energy within each portion, cell, or atom, as you may call it, of its beingness.

This awareness is that which is awareness of that already given. From the infinite come all densities. The self-awareness comes from within given the catalyst of certain experiences understanding, as we may call this particular energy, the upward spiraling of the cell or atom or consciousness.

You may then see that there is an inevitable pull towards the, what you may call, eventual realization of self.

28.14 Questioner: Is there any reason for some portions being much more efficient in learning?

Ra: I am Ra. Is there any reason for some to learn more quickly than others? Look, if you wish, to the function of the will … the, shall we say, attraction to the upward spiraling line of light.

Then my last thought regarding the "presence of the divine", there is likely some crossed wires there because ultimately "divinity" is probably something everyone interprets different, so that probably wasn't the best language to use.

That being said, I think "spiritual gravity" is constantly present, even the planet has it.
What you describe sounds like "crystallization", which allows more of the clear light of the Creator to shine through the individual, and that light which I perceive as the 'presence of the divine'.
For me, divinity and unity are one and the same, if that helps clarify at all.

As for whether or not Jim brought 'lessons of power' from others lives, I can't really say.
Ra said that the trio had worked together as a group in other lives and I always felt that was more explanation as for why they were able to come together and mesh. They've been working at it for awhile.

Oh, to your point of forces all "unifying", I'm actually not convinced there are "separate forces", but rather different aspects of a single force, just like I think matter, sound and light are all the same thing operating at different vibratory levels.
Actually pretty sure that "one force" is just intelligent energy.