The Hero's Journey for Former "Villains": Former 6dSTS Wanderers Who Flipped

[Black Dragon]

This is a thread to discuss everything related to this topic, since there seemed to be a large interest and recommendation to do so in another thread. Personal experiences, the dynamics of how this choice and change of polarity works and what it entails, understanding the perspectives unique to wanderers in this situation, karma, the veil of forgetting, and how all those factors interact. How many wanderers like that could be on Earth? Does Earth have a special characteristic that makes it a powerful place of change and reform? How would such a wanderer express themselves on these forums, what might their life be like? All of these and many more questions, we can explore here for anyone that's interested. I have a large amount of information and personal perspective to share, but it might be a big post or several smaller ones in response to the direction of the discussion. Either way, it's a lot to drop right now so I figured I'd just start the thread and the discussion and contribute more as it gets going.

Anything anyone would like to add in the mean time to start it off? Questions? Comments? Personal experiences?

[meadow-foreigner]

Redemption, huh.

I don't have the arrogation to affirm that I was of either polarity, for that would be presumptuous. However, I can add some feedback to the discussion with the experiences I've accrued.

I'll begin with an initial dialectic between wisdom and love, and the common belief that is prevalent in the negative polarity that wisdom supersedes love in practicability and application, and that displays of love and vulnerability show weaknesses rather than strengths. What are your thoughts on this?

Let's see how others interact.

[eddy852]

I think these two threads might be interesting to you

Greetings from the Dark
Greetings from the Light

[Black Dragon]

Redemption, huh.

I don't have the arrogation to affirm that I was of either polarity, for that would be presumptuous. However, I can add some feedback to the discussion with the experiences I've accrued.

I'll begin with an initial dialectic between wisdom and love, and the common belief that is prevalent in the negative polarity that wisdom supersedes love in practicability and application, and that displays of love and vulnerability show weaknesses rather than strengths. What are your thoughts on this?

Let's see how others interact.

Well, I'm not going to assume anything either or claim I have all the answers, because I'm not in a state where I'm super in tune with my inner guidance at the moment and everyone's journey is different...however, some things that can not be accomplished by one distorted person's willpower alone can perhaps be accomplished with some tools that are decided from the STO toolbox: Teamwork. Openness. Trust in other selves. And since you mention it, a little bit of vulnerability. In this way I have recently been able to make a little headway, paradoxically, on my own inner journey.

My thoughts on the dialectic between love and wisdom: In my heart and the most rational portion of my mind, I believe that love is what shows strength and integrity, and that predatory and/or controlling behavior is actually indicative of the opposite, of weakness and vulnerability to being pushed around by outer catalyst, outside forces shallow emotions, and the "monkey mind"/"Lizard brain". However, as a creature of 3d for the purpose of this lifetime, I'm behind the veil and am sometimes susceptible to the influences of the lizard brain, among other influences both internal and external.

It is easy from a 3d standpoint, including from a standpoint of empathy and intent of STO(and yet even MORE sharply perhaps from the standpoint from former STS turned STO bearing guilt and a sharp discernment of negativity), to see how that which is beautiful, loving, pure, and vulnerable...often suffers so much unfairly. Gets stomped on, eaten, used, abused. This causes a lot of distress and cognitive dissonance. Those who have not cultivated empathy will see this as a teaching/learning moment to become like the "predator" and relinquish the attributes of the "prey". Those with empathy but lacking acceptance will feel(and somewhat rightfully so) that what is good, loving, and vulnerable is in need of protection from that which is not. But who will do the protecting, and how, without losing polarity?

"He who fights monsters should see to it that he himself does not become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." — Friedrich Nietzsche. Don't agree with everything the guy ever said, but this is a good quote I feel is true. There is a paradox here and slippery slope to unintentionally going down a negative path.

This is a pitfall that I feel could actually be quite common with former 6d STS beings turned positive living in a 3d incarnation. Being at war with what one used to be-the wanderer armor of discernment of that which is not as desired(specifically that which unconsciously reminds one of the former self), and a conscience of guilt and unforgiveness can lead to extreme hatred of STS beings and further embattlement both with them and the self.

[zedro]

Does Earth have a special characteristic that makes it a powerful place of change and reform? How would such a wanderer express themselves on these forums, what might their life be like?

I think maybe a more encompassing word would be 'history' which would include and define it's characteristic. The history of Muldek and Mars, the 'interference' of higher density entities such as Ra and Yahweh and other ascended masters to shape a desired outcome, have all created a big karmic ball of twine that the evolution of the inhabitants of this Logos has been tied up into this 'spiritual battleground' which is in the process of being resolved, well at least a stage of it. The experience of a 'mercenary/missionary' wanderer vs that of one from a karmically implicated SMC surely would have a huge effect.

Imagine if you were previously a 5d neg who operated here in another era, but have since graduated to 6d and are karmically compelled to incarnate here to help, what would be the 'relationship' be with those other negative 4d/5d SMCs, especially if you were once their master in the food chain? I imagine you might be in for a rough ride, you might have even had to make a deal/compromise with them to be 'allowed' to operate here, perhaps 'giving' them the chance to enslave you, at least from their perspective.

I'm not particularly attached to what my past could have been, it's more of a curiosity, as the path forward is what's important. In the other thread I mentioned I had this thought of the possibility, but I believe the 'idea' was more compelled in me to create doubt in my value as a person. What I do believe tho, is I was in for a rough ride to get to this point, and maybe a clearer picture of my history may one day become an important teaching tool, it is not however as important to me right now, healing and moving forward is. But if someone is reckoning with that possibility, I would not dismiss it, but rather caution to not over emphasize your experience with your current identity. Certainly the negative side likes to get people tangled up in false or unhealthy narratives.

[Black Dragon]

Does Earth have a special characteristic that makes it a powerful place of change and reform? How would such a wanderer express themselves on these forums, what might their life be like?

I think maybe a more encompassing word would be 'history' which would include and define it's characteristic. The history of Muldek and Mars, the 'interference' of higher density entities such as Ra and Yahweh and other ascended masters to shape a desired outcome, have all created a big karmic ball of twine that the evolution of the inhabitants of this Logos has been tied up into this 'spiritual battleground' which is in the process of being resolved, well at least a stage of it. The experience of a 'mercenary/missionary' wanderer vs that of one from a karmically implicated SMC surely would have a huge effect.

Imagine if you were previously a 5d neg who operated here in another era, but have since graduated to 6d and are karmically compelled to incarnate here to help, what would be the 'relationship' be with those other negative 4d/5d SMCs, especially if you were once their master in the food chain? I imagine you might be in for a rough ride, you might have even had to make a deal/compromise with them to be 'allowed' to operate here, perhaps 'giving' them the chance to enslave you, at least from their perspective.

I'm not particularly attached to what my past could have been, it's more of a curiosity, as the path forward is what's important. In the other thread I mentioned I had this thought of the possibility, but I believe the 'idea' was more compelled in me to create doubt in my value as a person. What I do believe tho, is I was in for a rough ride to get to this point, and maybe a clearer picture of my history may one day become an important teaching tool, it is not however as important to me right now, healing and moving forward is. But if someone is reckoning with that possibility, I would not dismiss it, but rather caution to not over emphasize your experience with your current identity. Certainly the negative side likes to get people tangled up in false or unhealthy narratives.

People will know/seek out their reincarnative and polarity history when the time is right. It can be a distraction or distortion for some, but for some it could have the opposite. Maybe a person who was ungrounded in their Earth identity, with too many questions about their past lives and desnity(seeking for some sort of glamour, power, comfort, or sense accomplishment) that their current life doesn't seem to provide by fantasizing about what they could have been in past lives...it might make one appreciate their current life and the strength it took to commit themselves to STO if they found out they were just a 6d STS butthole and there was nothing glamorous or worth pining over about their past lives from their current STO perspective. Such a thing could potentially be liberating and give one newfound clarity and purpose.

[Black Dragon]

I know some here have read "Bringers of the Dawn". Others it doesn't resonate so much or they find it transient. I haven't read through my copy in a while, but I remember there are some interesting ideas on this topic in there as well. When I get a chance to go back through, I'll share what I find.

[Patrick]

I am aware of having walked the left hand path up to 6D where I switched polarity or maybe I should say instead where I released polarity.  That was eons ago and I did not bring any more details with me in this current life.  So I cannot share anything of interest.  Well maybe I can mention my belief that such a road makes it easier to properly blend wisdom and compassion once there.  And maybe also my belief that this makes it easier for a 3D wanderer not to fall once again to the temptations of the left hand path. It makes it much easier to forgive.

[Black Dragon]

I am aware of having walked the left hand path up to 6D where I switched polarity or maybe I should say instead where I released polarity.  That was eons ago and I did not bring any more details with me in this current life.  So I cannot share anything of interest.  Well maybe I can mention my belief that such a road makes it easier to properly blend wisdom and compassion once there.  And maybe also my belief that this makes it easier for a 3D wanderer not to fall once again to the temptations of the left hand path.  It makes it much easier to forgive.

That is true, at least in the long run. For some, the initial parts of the transition and some of the karma can be a lot to deal with and they will have a tendency to have a lot of unforgiveness based on unforgiveness of self...however once they've worked their way more or less to where you are at then yes, absolutely. They will potentially have a unique level of empathy and forgiveness for those who are in error as they once were.

[Minyatur]

Does Earth have a special characteristic that makes it a powerful place of change and reform?

90.20 Questioner: Then built into the basis for the archetypes is possibly the mechanism for creating the polarization in consciousness for service to others and service to self. Is this, in fact, true?

Ra: I am Ra. Yes. You will notice the many inborn biases which hint to the possibility of one path’s being more efficient than the other. This was the design of the Logos.

90.21 Questioner: Then what you are saying is that once the path is recognized, either the positive or the negative polarized entity can find hints along his path as to the efficiency of that path. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. That which you say is correct upon its own merits, but is not a repetition of our statement. Our suggestion was that within the experiential nexus of each entity within its second-density environment and within the roots of mind there were placed biases indicating to the watchful eye the more efficient of the two paths. Let us say, for want of a more precise adjective, that this Logos has a bias towards kindness.

[meadow-foreigner]

A very common STS rhetoric, and a pitfall for the unaware: the notion that the Self is the other-Self. I've seen many individuals falling to that, as it portrays a half-truth, at least in every single density below 7D. And, since polarities are dropped during 6D, it is important to pay attention to not buy into those concepts, especially in 3D.

Control and predictability: the negatively-polarized motto. Unfortunately, these attributes are founded on restriction and inwardness; which go against the whole Universal Logos.

It is then crystal-clear how the negative polarity inevitably falls short during the merge of the paths, and how the STO path have a way easier time with that.

[zedro]

A very common STS rhetoric, and a pitfall for the unaware: the notion that the Self is the other-Self. I've seen many individuals falling to that, as it portrays a half-truth, at least in every single density below 7D. And, since polarities are dropped during 6D, it is important to pay attention to not buy into those concepts, especially in 3D.

While I agree, could you expand on the potential consequence of falling for that notion? I've tended to avoiding 'Ra speak' as much as possible for various reasons, but have never fully explored why except for the feeling that it can be a form of bypassing (again I'm at a loss for even expressing this idea properly, it's just swimming in the right side of the brain right now).

[Raukura Waihaha]

I just watched a channel talking about how those who have mastered STO, come back as STS to provide catalyst for those trying to achieve the same thing.
They specifically mentioned psychopathic and sociopathic tendencies as traits of such beings.
Kinda like a "well I've done it all, so let me take one for the team" situation.
I'm not sure how this fits into this discussion but it seemed relevant, for some reason.

[zedro]

I just watched a channel talking about how those who have mastered STO, come back as STS to provide catalyst for those trying to achieve the same thing.
They specifically mentioned psychopathic and sociopathic tendencies as traits of such beings.
Kinda like a "well I've done it all, so let me take one for the team" situation.
I'm not sure how this fits into this discussion but it seemed relevant, for some reason.

Source? I'm extremely skeptical, sounds like STS propaganda

[Black Dragon]

I just watched a channel talking about how those who have mastered STO, come back as STS to provide catalyst for those trying to achieve the same thing.
They specifically mentioned psychopathic and sociopathic tendencies as traits of such beings.
Kinda like a "well I've done it all, so let me take one for the team" situation.
I'm not sure how this fits into this discussion but it seemed relevant, for some reason.

Interesting thought. Doesn't resonate with me, but I could be objectively wrong and that could be my own bias. Or I could just know the scent of poo having tread quite a distance in it myself. It sounds like apologetics to venerate the left hand path as if it intentionally provides some sort of noble service, and it reinforces the idea that 3d existence has to just be this absolute house of horrors for anyone to make any polarity progress. I think there is enough catalyst both internal and external to deal with without having beings feel they need to be explicitly dedicated to creating and perpetuating misery. That just seems like and arbitrary excuse to continue creating more misery to feed certain pipedreams/agendas of intransigent 6d negative beings who wish to perpetuate their existence and avoid spiritual entropy(spoiler alert, it doesn't work forever).

[Raukura Waihaha]

It was from a lady called Pamela Aaralyn who channels Yeshua, Mary Magdalene, Ra (clear conduit so please save the heresy claims), Delores Cannon, among other beings.
She was spiritually awakened by Yeshua at age 5 and I've never ever had an STS vibe from her.
She said every guide she speaks with have all said this.
It is a case of not needing to expand anymore and so they become the ones who push the buttons of those who need certain lessons.
It seems very STO to be so selfless as to put yourself through that.
But I understand how it can be perceived as STS propaganda.

This is the video if you want to check it out
https://youtu.be/aj9BDXu-61M

[zedro]

It was from a lady called Pamela Aaralyn who channels Yeshua, Mary Magdalene, Ra (clear conduit so please save the heresy claims), Delores Cannon, among other beings.
She was spiritually awakened by Yeshua at age 5 and I've never ever had an STS vibe from her.

That is quite the roster. What people fail to realize with channelings, is the channel/instrument can be STO, but may not realize they are communicating with STS entities posing as STO ones (or STO and STS angel on the right shoulder, devil on the left taking turns as a unified voice), and due to the Law of Confusion, the STO crew cannot tell them this is happening (free will and the lesson of discernment).

There's a tactic where 99% of the information can be good or positive to garner trust, but the 1% provides enough deception to create a problem. And this deception is protected by the LoC.

I'm generally suspicious by any abundance of information received thru mediums, especially from such exotic and recognisable sources that get deceminated so widely. It's an easy way to prey upon sensitives, especially if they've been indoctrinated so early. I'm not saying all channelings are BS (obviously), but there are definitely red flags to be aware of.

I believe even Ra warned about straying too far into the 'transient' subjects, it seems it was a light warning that perhaps the channel was not as clean as you might think, where the human biases might invite 'other sources'.

[zedro]

I just watched a channel talking about how those who have mastered STO, come back as STS to provide catalyst for those trying to achieve the same thing.
...

.... It sounds like apologetics to venerate the left hand path as if it intentionally provides some sort of noble service, and it reinforces the idea that 3d existence has to just be this absolute house of horrors for anyone to make any polarity progress...

Or worse, that maybe give STS a try while you are here, like it's a passive recruitment device.

I feel that even if this was something that happened on purpose in the rare circumstance (because we know it can happen by accident, or by risk), that this would be typically veiled information from the STO side and would not be mentioned. It seems like if anything, it's something that Ra would have shared since they were so close to deceminating that sort of premise.

[Raukura Waihaha]

It was from a lady called Pamela Aaralyn who channels Yeshua, Mary Magdalene, Ra (clear conduit so please save the heresy claims), Delores Cannon, among other beings.
She was spiritually awakened by Yeshua at age 5 and I've never ever had an STS vibe from her.

That is quite the roster. What people fail to realize with channelings, is the channel/instrument can be STO, but may not realize they are communicating with STS entities posing as STO ones (or STO and STS angel on the right shoulder, devil on the left taking turns as a unified voice), and due to the Law of Confusion, the STO crew cannot tell them this is happening (free will and the lesson of discernment).

There's a tactic where 99% of the information can be good or positive to garner trust, but the 1% provides enough deception to create a problem. And this deception is protected by the LoC.

I'm generally suspicious by any abundance of information received thru mediums, especially from such exotic and recognisable sources that get deceminated so widely. It's an easy way to prey upon sensitives, especially if they've been indoctrinated so early. I'm not saying all channelings are BS (obviously), but there are definitely red flags to be aware of.

I believe even Ra warned about straying too far into the 'transient' subjects, it seems it was a light warning that perhaps the channel was not as clean as you might think, where the human biases might invite 'other sources'.

I am well aware of the pitfalls and methods STS beings implement.
It could be argued that you are being influenced by STS beings to disregard the information without watching it with an open heart and deciding for yourself whether it resonates or not.
Unless you've watched it and this is your take?

[Sacred Fool]

  
It's difficult to discuss the perspective of a 6D denizen from the vantage of 3D.  Here we think of what a being accomplishes, what their social position is and all that.  There, that's just transient detail in terms of their choice to re-enter 3D.  According to Ra, what they are trying to do is slightly bend the tilted balance of their entire soul stream so that it's more open to love or wisdom or more balanced in its use of power.  The prominence of the temporal 3D details are not where the charge is, the charge is in the challenges faced and the depth to which a being meets them.  The charge--and the success of the entire enterprise of re-entering 3D--have to do with the depth of engagement one experiences in the effort.

For example, Rasputin was evidently able to very deeply find the melting nexus zone between his unconscious self and his temporal self to the point where his ability to work with intelligent awareness allowed him to move into 4D-.

For a 6D wanderer the pathway is different, but the principle of overlapping engagement of the unconscious will to serve with the conscious self and intelligent awareness is similar, I would suppose.
   
  
   

[zedro]

I am well aware of the pitfalls and methods STS beings implement.
It could be argued that you are being influenced by STS beings to disregard the information, without watching it with an open heart and deciding for yourself whether it resonates or not.
Unless you've watched it and this is your take?

Right now I'm not making any direct claims about her and her material at all, was just offering my personal feelings about the specific claim you brought up as related to the thread. But my warnings are coming from direct experience here (I have not personally elaborated on this yet and I'm not sure if this is an appropriate venue, but my postings in the past month have been touching on this).

And I wouldn't worry about an STS entity using me to advocate for discernment and scepticism on potentially harmful information that at best would be trivial (think of it logically, the claim could only be used for potential harm as noted in the above postings, at best it is neutral/non actionable IMO....that's how I use what I call 'failsafe discernment' in this case). I would not want to comment on her material in general as it's not my role to judge her (and off topic to the thread anyways), I was just expanding/exploring on the specific concept you directly raised. I'm not going to hold myself as a point of authority on it, it is ultimately upto the observer to decide. I don't want to seem like I'm just being a contrarian either, I just tend to walk on the conservative side of interpretation.

[Black Dragon]

It was from a lady called Pamela Aaralyn who channels Yeshua, Mary Magdalene, Ra (clear conduit so please save the heresy claims), Delores Cannon, among other beings.
She was spiritually awakened by Yeshua at age 5 and I've never ever had an STS vibe from her.

That is quite the roster. What people fail to realize with channelings, is the channel/instrument can be STO, but may not realize they are communicating with STS entities posing as STO ones (or STO and STS angel on the right shoulder, devil on the left taking turns as a unified voice), and due to the Law of Confusion, the STO crew cannot tell them this is happening (free will and the lesson of discernment).

There's a tactic where 99% of the information can be good or positive to garner trust, but the 1% provides enough deception to create a problem. And this deception is protected by the LoC.

I'm generally suspicious by any abundance of information received thru mediums, especially from such exotic and recognisable sources that get deceminated so widely. It's an easy way to prey upon sensitives, especially if they've been indoctrinated so early. I'm not saying all channelings are BS (obviously), but there are definitely red flags to be aware of.

I believe even Ra warned about straying too far into the 'transient' subjects, it seems it was a light warning that perhaps the channel was not as clean as you might think, where the human biases might invite 'other sources'.

I am well aware of the pitfalls and methods STS beings implement.
It could be argued that you are being influenced by STS beings to disregard the information without watching it with an open heart and deciding for yourself whether it resonates or not.
Unless you've watched it and this is your take?

I may decide to watch it if I find some time. I don't think it will change my perspective much necessarily or my wariness of STS apologetics. The only reason I'm sort of interested, is because your first post here and proposed theory somehow creepily struck up a memory when I was a kid and I knew this other kid who lived down the street who I ended up looking at the memories I know now was a  sociopath and an instigator/manipulator who created a lot of misery and stirred people up, all under a really annoying goody-two-shoes guise that avoided swearing and all that.

I have some vague peripheral recollection of having a weird conversation with this kid one day, and it bothers me to this day I forgot what it was about because I can almost guarantee it was about some weird philosophical/cosmological stuff. Stuff I thought about by myself as a kid but didn't often discuss with other kids. I can remember vague snippets about incarnation, about good and evil/light and dark, and something about testing people. It's so blocked in my mind but I almost believe it had something to do with the concept you said. It's almost like it happened but didn't happen.

Almost like this person in general. The first time I met him he approaches me out of nowhere at school, and somehow is a new neighbor living down the street. He barely spends two days at my elementary and then I guess goes to another school but still lives on my street. He moved away briefly and came back several times, and it was finally when I was like 14 or something I saw him for the last time. He had a way of weaseling himself into the periphery/edges of my life up until that point.

Most of the time I knew him he was in the periphery of my friends group, more the background just here and there but looking back he was always instigating and stirring things up, turning people against eachother. He deceived me, stole my property, tried slandering me with my friends and for a time tried taking my place among them and impressing them with his bullshit charm... but then they soon realized he was the weirdo for some reason. Never asked them why they finally realized it but must have exposed some of his sociopathic tendencies to them.

All the while, I was still nice to the guy when I should have beat the snot out of him, because as a child I was somewhat naïve about recognizing subtle STS manipulation, although I was good at pointing out obvious authoritarianism and stuff like that. I never knew what he was doing the whole time until I looked back later.

This little f***** did nothing but create confusion and misery in my life. Looking back later in young adulthood and realizing what he'd done gave me more reasons to just armor myself and be resentful and mistrustful of people, and I already had many more of those from other stuff at the time.

So there's my story of possibly being "tested" by a creepy STS wanderer jackoff kid who lived down the street. I had more than enough adversity, enough challenges and catalyst WITHOUT ever having met this person. This was just an arbitrary addition of diarrhea icing on a s*** cake, just an insult to injury.

Like I said, this demiurgic reality is rife with enough adversity and catalyst. Those who say they specifically go and create misery for a noble purpose like "providing catalyst" are just adding more arbitrary catalyst when there's already enough. I don't think it's a sacrifice for them at all. I think they just simply enjoy doing it and feeding off the misery.

…but I digress, and now we are somewhat(or maybe even completely) off topic from the original one, which was the exact opposite: former STS beings who have recently switched to STO.

[Louisabell]

Well, I don't know about pre-incarnative polarity switching, but I can speak on my personal experiences in this life. I started out polarising STS. I didn't realise I was doing it at the time, but coming across the Ra material really cleared it up for me. I realise now that the reason for this was due to my childhood. I experienced no overt abuse, but my mother was cold and tough, I was taught to repress everything, and after heavy conditioning, I became very good at it. Even as a young child I was able to hide any physical pain very well. I was heavily teased by my siblings anytime I showed emotional pain, which I had a lot of. By the time I became an adolescent, I was also able to repress emotional pain pretty effectively.  

It felt like something of a superpower at the time. Other people seemed to be so moved by their emotions, and while they acted impulsively and erratically, I could be very detached and calculating, which I was, because I had nothing else to do. Mix that with a personal bias towards seeking fast evolution, and I continued to seek power which lacked love, because frankly, love did not exist for me. I truly thought love was control (for the good of the other person of course). I wasn't sadistic or anything, I believe at my root that I am STO and have always been, but that was how I knew to get my needs met.

Eventually I couldn't stand the spiritual darkness which surrounded me, the feeling that I was more AI than human. So I isolated myself, became quite the hermit for a few years, in order to seek back that self which had become lost to me. Of course, all the polarity I had gained on that path was able to be switched over and then some. I now appreciate my past experiences, it taught me a lot about discipline and willpower.

That's why I tend to think that there is much confusion between the act of exploring shadow aspects of the self and true separation of self, true STS. Lust, greed, rage, aren't "evil", they are all aspects of the self to be loved, accepted and understood on the STO path. But this is a huge undertaking, and most times, people can't integrate these energies into the unified polarised being. So, these emotions exist as "energy subject to spiritual entropy", which seem to make people uncomfortable and confused about their true polarity.

46.9 Questioner: Certainly.

Ra: The entity polarizing positively perceives the anger. This entity, if using this catalyst mentally, blesses and loves this anger in itself. It then intensifies this anger consciously in mind alone until the folly of this red-ray energy is perceived not as folly in itself but as energy subject to spiritual entropy due to the randomness of energy being used.

Positive orientation then provides the will and faith to continue this mentally intense experience of letting the anger be understood, accepted, and integrated with the mind/body/spirit complex. The other-self which is the object of anger is thus transformed into an object of acceptance, understanding, and accommodation, all being reintegrated using the great energy which anger began.

The negatively oriented mind/body/spirit complex will use this anger in a similarly conscious fashion, refusing to accept the undirected or random energy of anger and instead, through will and faith, funneling this energy into a practical means of venting the negative aspect of this emotion so as to obtain control over other-self, or otherwise control the situation causing anger.

Control is the key to negatively polarized use of catalyst. Acceptance is the key to positively polarized use of catalyst. Between these polarities lies the potential for this random and undirected energy creating a bodily complex analog of what you call the cancerous growth of tissue.

[Raukura Waihaha]

I may decide to watch it if I find some time. I don't think it will change my perspective much necessarily or my wariness of STS apologetics. The only reason I'm sort of interested, is because your first post here and proposed theory somehow creepily struck up a memory when I was a kid and I knew this other kid who lived down the street who I ended up looking at the memories I know now was a  sociopath and an instigator/manipulator who created a lot of misery and stirred people up, all under a really annoying goody-two-shoes guise that avoided swearing and all that.

Perhaps my seeds here as a brother of sorrow, are beginning to sprout

[Asolsutsesvyl]

There's a problem with the concept with which this thread began, I think.

6D STO wanderers are centered in mid-6D.

6D STS presences are centered below mid-6D, and polarity has flipped by the time mid-6D is reached.

In reaching mid-6D, there is a merging. The STO and STS pasts are then history, so to say, and have given rise to a single consciousness which projects itself into all incarnations.

I think each 6D STO wanderer may carry something of both 5D STO and 5D STS pasts within the memory of its soul. There's not one path or trajectory leading up to the soul which incarnated, but several, i.e. all of those which merged in 6D.

[Asolsutsesvyl]

That is quite the roster. What people fail to realize with channelings, is the channel/instrument can be STO, but may not realize they are communicating with STS entities posing as STO ones (or STO and STS angel on the right shoulder, devil on the left taking turns as a unified voice), and due to the Law of Confusion, the STO crew cannot tell them this is happening (free will and the lesson of discernment).

[...] I'm generally suspicious by any abundance of information received thru mediums, especially from such exotic and recognisable sources that get deceminated so widely. It's an easy way to prey upon sensitives, especially if they've been indoctrinated so early. I'm not saying all channelings are BS (obviously), but there are definitely red flags to be aware of.

I am well aware of the pitfalls and methods STS beings implement.
It could be argued that you are being influenced by STS beings to disregard the information without watching it with an open heart and deciding for yourself whether it resonates or not.

About the part I made italic, I'd like to point out that proponents of thousands of widely conflicting sources each could make such arguments, if they felt like it. It's cheap and manipulative, and there's better angles from which one could begin.

As for the concept of beings coming back to play negative after succeeding in being very positive, as a kind of service to those needing to meet with negativity as a challenge, I can think of at least two problems with that. One problem is that there's so many sources of adversity and negativity available to those in this world that no such "special services" from the super-positive are needed. Another problem is that the most positive sources, 6D STO, are called to provide plainly positive services and then hindered by 5D STS forces and their below-5D hierarchies whenever the latter succeed, the two types of service-providers obviously at odds rather than part of the same team.

[Minyatur]

There's a problem with the concept with which this thread began, I think.

6D STO wanderers are centered in mid-6D.

6D STS presences are centered below mid-6D, and polarity has flipped by the time mid-6D is reached.

Actually both are centered below mid-6D, their higher self is centered in mid-6D, turned back offering its service to its self.

[Asolsutsesvyl]

There's a problem with the concept with which this thread began, I think.

6D STO wanderers are centered in mid-6D.

6D STS presences are centered below mid-6D, and polarity has flipped by the time mid-6D is reached.

Actually both are centered below mid-6D, their higher self is centered in mid-6D, turned back offering its service to its self.

I may have missed things. I know the distinction is made for 6D STS, though I don't know where it's made clear that there's a difference between the 6D STO soul/being/SMC and the 6D higher self, in terms of level within 6D.

(I find the topic of 6D STS tricky. I actually don't have a simple coherent idea of 6D STS wanderers in relation to the cosmology, finding various ideas contradicted by other things, though a 6D STS presence or being as such seems problem-free. In an old thread on 6D SMCs, I posted some speculation with a mixture of viable and unviable ideas, and relevant quotes from the material appear in replies people made there, along with some self-corrections and new ideas of my own.)

Is there a difference between 6D fusion, by which 6D STO propagates, and the process by which 6D STS becomes 6D STO? My idea was that they are the same (6D STS to 6D STO being a special case of something more general).

[zedro]

I think the 6D STS designation is misleading, as the ultimate conclusion reached from 5D 'wisdom' is the STS path is energetically a dead end and a temporary illusionary path away from the unified creation, i.e. There is no way to make yourself into a distinct creator. So early 6D you would have already shed the STS outlook, but now you are learning love (hence why you might want to incarnate here to explore the 3D/4D lessons/experience you missed out on.)

There's a concept that there is a 6D- entity that is a demiurgic A.I. that was 'created', but that's a whole other topic.

[meadow-foreigner]

There's a concept that there is a 6D- entity that is a demiurgic A.I. that was 'created', but that's a whole other topic.

It seems that such a demiurgic entity works much like an STS bank account, from which negatively polarized beings deposit the loosh they collect from unpolarized, or prey, individuals; and from where they take energy in order to supply the negative spells and other methods of cattle-gathering and cattle-cohesion.