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    Taliesian (Offline)

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    #1
    03-09-2021, 12:09 PM
    It’s been 5 years and I still can’t seem to shake the pull of the body-mind and all the kind of s*** that goes with that. I literally have had every tool given to me but I’ll practice for like 2 days and then drop off again, and repeat. There’s more stuff I want to say but where to even begin lol

    How do you unfuck the lower chakras when you’re just so paralysed by them that you can barely even muster up the will to do anything?

    I did the chakra survey thing, I’d say it was probably fairly accurate for the lower chakras but the upper ones are probably a bit skewed


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    #2
    03-09-2021, 12:38 PM
    One question: How are you doing survival-wise? Are you in a comfortable financial situation? If you look at Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs, it is relevant that if your survival needs aren't taken care of, working on "spiritual" things is going to be very difficult. 

    My advice is to just work on becoming the best version of yourself. This will include knowing who you are vs. who you want to be. That is where I would put my efforts. Don't have expectations; this is paradoxical because you can still have goals (such as to evolve consciously); you just can't be attached to outcomes. In modern-day society we expect immediate gratification, and that rarely happens. 
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    #3
    03-09-2021, 01:34 PM
    Welcome here Taliesian,
    completely concur with Diana’s wise post. Survival needs come first. But if those are met, think about having some gratitude towards your own efforts.. Smile
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    #4
    03-09-2021, 01:35 PM
    (03-09-2021, 12:09 PM)Taliesian Wrote: It’s been 5 years and I still can’t seem to shake the pull of the body-mind and all the kind of s*** that goes with that. I literally have had every tool given to me but I’ll practice for like 2 days and then drop off again, and repeat. There’s more stuff I want to say but where to even begin lol

    How do you unfuck the lower chakras when you’re just so paralysed by them that you can barely even muster up the will to do anything?

    I did the chakra survey thing, I’d say it was probably fairly accurate for the lower chakras but the upper ones are probably a bit skewed

    I'm in the process of doing some "unfucking" with my lower chakras as well. I may have more insight as time goes by but the main thing I can already tell you is the idea of having to "shake the pull" of the mind and body, though an idea going in a good direction, isn't quite correct in terms of what actual healing and spiritual progress entails, which isn't "shaking the pull" of the mind and body so much as accepting, transmuting, and integrating these things with your spirit and higher self, and with the creator/creation.

    The mind and body have just as much relevance as any experience in creation and should be honored. There is no "lower" or "higher", all is an illusion yet all is real. Lower and higher, and hierarchies in general, are just tools we use to help make sense of things from various states of separation, individuality, and veiling that persist all the way up to 8th density and rejoining source, basically.

    So, the first step would be not looking at the mind and body as some lower nuisance and obstacle to your spiritual progress that needs to be suppressed. Beyond that, I can't offer the best advice at the moment because I'm in the middle of working on lower chakra issues myself.
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    #5
    03-09-2021, 01:49 PM
      
    I do appreciate the catch-22 nature of being too distressed and stuck to be able to find enough self-possession to discern a pathway onward.

    One thing that helps me in such a situation is to go someplace where a lot meditation is done (a temple, an ashram, a monastery or whatever) and hang out there in meditation.  I find that doing so draws down my agitation--a bit at a time--which can then allow me to move freely until I wander into the next pooh pit.

    The lower chakras are so rich in "fertilizer!"
      
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    #6
    03-09-2021, 02:22 PM
    Taliesian, there are many ways, although you likely have a specific path you need to take. I can pull a 7 chakra spread via tarot to see how you can start unblocking them if you wish?

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    #7
    03-14-2021, 06:10 PM
    (03-09-2021, 12:09 PM)Taliesian Wrote: It’s been 5 years and I still can’t seem to shake the pull of the body-mind and all the kind of s*** that goes with that. I literally have had every tool given to me but I’ll practice for like 2 days and then drop off again, and repeat. There’s more stuff I want to say but where to even begin lol

    How do you unfuck the lower chakras when you’re just so paralysed by them that you can barely even muster up the will to do anything?

    I did the chakra survey thing, I’d say it was probably fairly accurate for the lower chakras but the upper ones are probably a bit skewed

    Stop trying. Or, you are trying too hard. Relax and your Spiritual Consciousness will find its natural level. You are Body and Mind. Have you tried Mindless Meditation? Just simply stop thinking for a few minutes, (my favourite Meditation technique). I think you are trying to advance too quickly, it doesn't happen overnight. Be patient.
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    #8
    03-15-2021, 12:29 PM
    Without knowing you and the long biography that led you to this moment, I think there are some things generally safe enough to say. My reply would springboard from Diana's regarding the hierarchical arrangement of needs. However illusory duality and multiplicity may be, you are still constructed in an hierarchical fashion, and the upward spiraling light (i.e., "the energies of life itself") moves through you thusly.

    While I doubt that the tool you used to produce that chakra read-out is going to be very accurate, I recognize that its value may be less in its accuracy and more in whatever it evokes in you, a la the Rorschach Test. Whatever that is, from an outsider's point of view I think that it can be drawn upon for at least one point of insight: a lack of care to more fundamental needs.

    In A Wanderer's Handbook, Carla speaks about wanderers or spiritual seekers who essentially want to do the higher work without having tended to the lower. ("higher" vs "lower" not to convey value, only geography or location. The self is one, of course.)

    Like Diana said, that more fundamental need may be survival-related, in which case you're going to have a difficult time working in the higher chakras, and may even contribute to further imbalance in your overall system.

    But you ask regarding the unfucking of those lower centers. Well, what is the content of those lower centers? In addition to survival, there is:

    - how one relates to, knows, and accepts their own self. What is your relationship with your self? How judgmental, controlling, repressive, etc. are you with yourself? How patient, kind, compassion, and forgiving are you with yourself? How compulsive and addictive are your actions?

    - how one is in relationship with an other or others. Same questions re your relationship with others. Add to that, who are you around others? Are you authentic? Are you at peace with yourself? Are confident in who you are? Have you understood and situated your personal power in a healthy way?

    - the wounds and traumas of the past. How are your relationship with your parents, even if only internally? How much of the past haunts and troubles you vs. how much have you healed, forgiven, and made peace with?

    Etc. etc. It is a massively complex and confusing world, one where, as Ra said, we work with a "tiny candle in the darkness." But the light is identified over and over again, and it is located by honing in on the qualities of love, forgiveness, acceptance, compassion, understanding, patience, and the light touch.

    Carla described that our primary mission in life was to heal the incarnation. That, too, is your job, Taliesian.

    Toward that end, professional therapy can be very helpful, as can other modalities that seek the service of people trained in helping others to unlock their healing capacity and enter the mercy of their own hearts.

    Blessings to you. Heart

    And ps: One strong statement about what it means to completely unfuck the yellow ray:


    Quote:102.11 Ra: I am Ra. Each entity must, in order to completely unblock yellow ray, love all which are in relationship to it, with hope only of the other-selves’ joy, peace, and comfort.

    Explanation by the tongue makes most things clear, but love unexplained is clearer. - Rumi
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    #9
    03-15-2021, 12:40 PM
    Smile Steppingfeet, I had never read before the wonderful Rumi quote at the very end of your post, it took me a while ! Soooo lovely Heart
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    #10
    03-15-2021, 01:01 PM
    Additional foundational needs to consider when looking holistically at the health of the self: Eating well and appropriately for your body; exercise; the presence/non-presence of consciousness-altering chemicals; and a big one, sexuality - whether or not you are having sex with other(s), what is your relationship with your sexuality?

    These are all just general guiding questions I submit for your consideration.

    ***

    And Flo, afterall the posting we've done back and forth you're only now noticing the Rumi quote? lol. Well, all things happen in their appropriate time. Smile

    Explanation by the tongue makes most things clear, but love unexplained is clearer. - Rumi
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    03-15-2021, 01:05 PM
    Slow learner here
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    03-15-2021, 01:20 PM
    (03-15-2021, 01:05 PM)flofrog Wrote: Slow learner here

    Ah but you are swiftly loved by all and there must be balance... Wink
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    03-15-2021, 06:03 PM
    (03-09-2021, 12:09 PM)Taliesian Wrote: It’s been 5 years and I still can’t seem to shake the pull of the body-mind and all the kind of s*** that goes with that. I literally have had every tool given to me but I’ll practice for like 2 days and then drop off again, and repeat. There’s more stuff I want to say but where to even begin lol

    How do you unfuck the lower chakras when you’re just so paralysed by them that you can barely even muster up the will to do anything?

    I did the chakra survey thing, I’d say it was probably fairly accurate for the lower chakras but the upper ones are probably a bit skewed


    A person I like to listen to said something along the lines of "motivation is over rated, discipline beats motivation every time."

    In my case I always tried to bit off more than I was ready for. So after a couple days it was overwhelming and easily dropped. Whatever you are working on, pick one small thing you want to either do, or improve, make sure it is fairly easy to do, make sure it is not very time consuming, then do it every day, no matter what. After a couple weeks you will want to do that thing and it will become part of your routine, just like bathing or brushing your teeth.

    The two keys are to make it quick and easy, and to have the will to continue even when you do not have any motivation or energy.
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    03-19-2021, 08:07 PM
    Don't mistake a frame for the whole movie.

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